Download Lagna is at approx 8-9 degree of Cancer. Assuming 8.5d

Dear friends
I had talked about Bhrigu Chakra Paddhati. Apparently, the method has classical roots and I expect
Sreenadh-ji to provide us with some more clues about this technique. It is felt that I should discuss my
observations & my understanding about the technique with someone from Astrology background.
The system is dependent on degree-cal difference of Lagna and different planets. So, in a way, it is
less dependent on Ayanamsha. However, when lagna or planets are at the border of signs / navamsha,
where slight change of Ayanamsha, signs / navamsha can change, the usual problem again crops up.
Anyway, I am giving below the concepts that I do use - along with areas which needs some thought.
Basics :
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b)
c)
d)
e)
f)
g)
Lagna & planets progresses at 30 degree / 360 days. Some uses 30 degree / 365.242 days as
well.
When the progresses lagna / planets reach a sensitive point, an event can be triggered.
The nature of event will also be dependent on other factors like transits etc.
The sensitive points are generally - The degree of (i) Sign lord (ii) Aspecting planets (iii)
Planets that are in navamshaka of that sign (Say, Jupiter getting n Cancer navamshaka will
influence the behavior of Sign Cancer ). If one sign is aspected, the other sign of the same lord
will get same sensitive point.
The usual astrological concepts are fully applicable.
It appears that in presence of Ketu, the calculations do not match exactly.
It appears that as the age progresses, the lagna movement does not exactly match any method.
Some correction factor needs to be applied ……..something like precessional movement.
Possible pitfalls :
When someone is dealing with so many numbers, there is a tendency to match the results somehow.
Also chances are high that there will be sheer co-incidences, providing some apparent pattern in small
scale checks.
The method, if correct, can be a very good Post-mortem aid in stand-alone mode. However, for
projecting in to future, it may not be useful in present form.
Let me try out the method with some examples. I have tried both 360 days and 365.242 days. And also,
where applicable, forward and backward movement for odd and even signs.
Please note that the calculation is very much dependent on Lagna degree. Possible causes of
inexactitude of Lagna is (a) Different Ayanamsha  Mostly does not matter except when the planets or
lagna is at the Sandhi of two signs. (b) TOB  The error will be persistent in each cases and hence can
be guessed. However, if there are two or more planets are almost at the same degree, confusions may
be there about how to relate and whom to relate
Example One :
DOB : Aug 17, 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi (AIA Quiz-2 data).
There are 4 important events mentioned. Let us
cross-check the events along with progressed
lagna .
Let us try to cross-check them, one by one & find
whether any pattern exist or not.
As the Lagna is in odd sign, BCP and Sasank
Saradeeya (SS) will give same result.
A)
House
Rashi
Degree
D-9
Navamsa
Sphuta
Lagna
Sun
1st
7th
Aqua
Leo
2d20’15””
Od49’47”
1st -Libra
1st- Aries
20.04
7.46
Moon
Mars
1st
5th
Aqua
Gemini
24d52’39”
3d29’
8th-Taurus
2nd-Scorpio
16.10
1.35
Mercury
(Jupiter)
7th
1st
Leo
Aqua
18d24’46”
16d11’22”
6th-Virgo
5th-Aqua
14.29
25.48
Venus
Saturn
8th
12th
Virgo
Capricorn
16d8’42
13d30’39”
5th-Taurus
5th-Taurus
25.00
1.60
Rahu
Ketu
6th
12th
Cancer
Capricorn
15d35’48”
15d35’48”
5th-Scorpio
5th-Taurus
20.37
20.37
Marriage on 04 Nov 1984
a) SS/ BCP – 360 days : Age 22.54166 years. Progressed lagna is at Sagittarius 18d 35’, which is quite
close to degree of Mercury. How Mercury is connected to Sagittarius is not apparent here.
However, same can be explained with a different navamsha approach.
b) SS/ BCP-365.242 days : Age 22.2161943565 years. Progressed lagna is at Sagittarius 8d49’.
However no correlation is found.
B)
Birth of 1st Son : 03 Nov 1985
a) SS/ BCP – 360 days : Age 23.552778 yrs. The progressed lagna is in Capricorn, at 18d55 which is
again close to degree of Mercury. As the Me is 5L and aspects Aquarius and hence this is
justifiable.
b) SS/BCP – 365.242 days : 23.213557 yrs. The progressed lagna is at Capricorn at 8d44’. No
correlation could be found.
C) Birth of second son on 09 Oct 1995
a) SS/ BCP – 360 days : Age 33.62777 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Scorpio at 21d10’. No correlation
observed. Although Rahu is getting Scorpio navamshaka with Navamsha sphuta of 20d… but
should this be allowed ? No.
b) SS/BCP – 365.242 days : Age 33.14511. Progressed lagan is at 6 Sc 41. No correlation found.
D)
Surgery on 27 Aug 2004 :
a) SS/ BCP – 360 days : Age 42.64166 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Leo – 21d 35’. No correlation
observed.
b) SS/BCP – 365.242 days : Age 42.02738 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Leo, 3d09 min. May be
correlated with degree of Mars.
Conclusion : No real trend so far.
Example Two :
08 Feb, 1983, 04:16 Hrs, Delhi (AIA Quiz-3, posted by Neelam-ji)
Events : a) Marriage to take place on 29 November, 2009
b) Death of brother on 19 July 2002
.
A)
House
Rashi
Degree
D-9
Lagna
Sun
1st
2nd
Sagi
Cp
8d40’15””
24d59’
7th -Ge
99th - Leo
Moon
Mars
1st
3rd
Sagi
Aqua
0d04’37”
23d09’
5th-Aries
5th-Aries
Mercury
(Jupiter)
Venus
Saturn
1st
12th
3rd
11th
Sagi
Scorpio
Aqua
Libra
29d17’46”
13d5’26”
17d52’11”
10d48’
1st- Sagi
12th - Sco
4th-Pi
2nd -Cp
Rahu
Ketu
7th
1st
Gemini
sagi
9d53’08”
9d53’08”
1st - sagi
7th-Gemini
Marriage day on 29.11.2009 :
a) SS/ BCP – 360 days : Age 27.19722 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Pisces at 14d34 min. However, if
we consider the TOB is slightly off and the Lgana is at approx 8d, then the progressed lagna is at
Pisces 13d54..which is very close to degree of Jupiter. Also the navamsha falls at Scorpio where
Jup is posited. But connection of Jup with marriage is not apparent from chart / navamsha.
b) SS/BCP – 365.242 days : 26.80495 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Pisces 2d09 min… No correlation
observed
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Example Three :
20 June, 1975, approx 06:55 hrs, Dibrugarh (Lady)
Lagna
Hous
e
Rashi
Degree
D-9
1st
Cancer
8-9
Virgo
Navams
a Sphuta
Sun
12th
Gemini
4°35’45
Sco
11.40
Moon
4th
Libra
19° 8’46"
Pisces
22.35
Mars
9th
Pisces
28°28’43"
Pisces
16.41
Mercury
11th
Taurus
21°44’47 “
Cancer
15.66
(Jupiter)
9th
Pisces
26°30’43
Aqua
28.68
Venus
1st
Cancer
19°57’26"
Sag
29.64
Saturn
Rahu
Ketu
12
5th
11th
Gemini
Scorpio
Taurus
25°42’49"
7°15’35"
7°15’35"
Taurus
Virgo
Pisces
21.49
5.4
5.4
Lagna is at approx 8-9 degree of Cancer. Assuming 8.5d
Events :
A)
B)
C)
D)
E)
Death of Father
Marriage
1st Son
2nd Son
Surgery
: 03 December, 1989
: 05 June 1997
: 25th Jan, 1999
: 08 September, 2004
: 13th November 2008.
A) Death of Father happened on 3rd December, 1989.
a) BCP -360 days : Age 14.66666 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Virgo, 28d29’ –this is very close to
degree of Mars, which is aspecting Virgo. Mars, 10L is also Maraka to 9L Jupiter. So, it does
match
b) BCP-356.242 days : Progressed lagna is at Virgo at 22d8’… might be correlated with degree
of Mercury if lagna was at slightly less than 8d.
c) SS-360 days : Progressed lagna is Aries at 18d30’ . No correlation
d) SS-365.242 days : progressed lagna is at Aries at 24d51’ . No correlation
Additional : If we look at the chart, The sensitive points in Virgo is 26.5 degree (aspect of Jup),
28.5 degree (aspect of Mars), 21.6 degree ( degree of sign lord). As Virgo is 3rd house, 7th to 9th
house, it can show death of father. Mars is lord of 10H..so a Maraka for 9L
B)
Marriage took place on 05th June 1997.
a) BCP -360 days : Age 22.28055 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Taurus – 16d54’ does not match.
b) BCP-356.242 days : Age 21.95867 years. Progressed lagna is at Taurus 7d14’ - degree of
Ketu at Taurus. Match ?
c) SS-360 days : Progressed lagna is at Virgo 0d5’. No correlation
d) SS-365.242 days : progressed lagna is at Virgo 9d45 . No correlation
C)
Birth of 1st Son on 25 Jan 1999
a) BCP -360 days : Age 23.94444 yrs. The progressed lagna is in Cancer 6d49’. No match
b) BCP-356.242 days: Age 22.599601 yrs. The progressed lagna is in Taurus .. 26d29’. This is
close to Jup’s degree (Match ?). However, Jup’s relation with Taurus or its lord Venus is not
apparent.
c) SS-360 days : Age 23.94444. Progressed lagna is in Cancer at 10d10’. No correlation
d) SS-365.242 days : Age 22.599601. Progressed lagna is in Leo, 20d30. Close to degree of
Mercury…but connection of Mercury and Leo is not apparent.
D)
Birth of 2nd son on 08 Sept 2004.
a)
BCP -360 days : Age 29.647222 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Sagittarius 27d54…close to Mars’
degree. (Mars is 5L)
b) BCP-356.242 days: Age 29.21903 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Sagittarius 15d4’. No
correlation.
c) SS-360 days : Age 29.647222 yrs Progressed lagna is at Capricorn at 19d5’. Close to Moon’s
& Venus’ degree. (Moon and Venus are in parivartana.) However, no clear correlation
d) SS-365.242 days : Age 29.21903 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Aquarius at 1d55’. No
correlation.
E)
Minor surgery on 12th November, 2008.
a) BCP -360 days : Age 33.86111 yrs. The progressed lagna is at Taurus 4d 19’. No
correlation. Except, may be related to Sun (4d35’) which sits at Scorpio navamsha and may
be, arguably, aspects Taurus.
b) BCP-356.242 days: Age 33.39699 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Aries, 20d24’. Tenuous
correlation with Mercury or Venus (degree-wise). However, no relation exists in chart or
navamsha.
c) SS-360 days : Age 33.86111 yrs . Progressed lagna is at Virgo 12d40’. No correlation.
d) SS-365.242 days : Age 33.39699 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Virgo 26d35’. Again Tenuous
correlation with degree of Jupiter.
Example Four :
DOB : 08 November, 1970, 08:40 hrs, Dibrugarh (elder brother of lady of Example-three)
Hous
e
Rashi
Degree
D-9
Lagna
1st
Sagi
3d35’
Ta
Sun
11th
Libra
21d51’
Ar
Moon
3rd
Aqua
12d51’
Cp
Mars
10th
Virgo
18d25’
Ge
Mercury
11th
Libra
28d56’
Ge
Jupiter
11th
Libra
22d46’
Ar
(Venus)
11th
Libra
25d26’
Ta
(Saturn)
Rahu
Ketu
5th
3rd
9th
Ar
Aqua
Leo
25d56’
6d14’
6d14’
Sco
Sco
Ta
Events :
a) Death of father = 3rd December, 1989
b) Marriage
= 26th April, 1998
c) Birth of daughter = 10th March, 1999
Navams
a Sphuta
A) Death of Father happened on 3rd December, 1989.
a) BCP / SS-360 days : Age 19.34722 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Cancer 13d59’. This does not
match. However, if the lagna degree is slightly less..approx 2d20’…this does match. Also,
Cancer being 8th house, (12th to 9th lord), will justify the event. ( I have used 2d20’ for
further calculation)
b) BCP/SS-356.242 days : Age 19.06844 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Cancer 5d38. Does not
match.
B)
Marriage on 26th April, 1998
a) BCP / SS-360 days : Age 27.86388 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Pisces, 28d14. Close to
Mercury’s degree. Mercury is 7th Lord. So can show marriage. But Mercury and Pisces are
not connected.
b) BCP/SS-356.242 days : Age 27.46270 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Pisces, 16d12’. Does not
match
C) Birth of Daughter on 10th March, 1999
a) BCP / SS-360 days : Age 28.74222 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Aries 24d35’..close to Saturn’s
degree and location. So, this is a match
b) BCP/SS-356.242 days : Age 28.33402 yrs. Progressed lagna is at Aries 12d41’. No
correlation.
CONCLUSION
1) Apparently, few things do match and few do not.
2) The doubt is…..whether the matching is random (as happens while playing with Calculator,
crunching random numbers) or is there a pattern underlying.
3) There appears to be some gap between degree of Lagna and happenings. The gap increases as the
age increases…roughly 1 degree in 70 years. (this is based on some charts which I had tried earlier,
but not included in this.
Anyway, please tell me whether I should pursue this direction of thought or not.
Regards
P L Chakraborty
Random Thoughts
The following is a random thought…… may be there is something in the thought that I would
pursue in future. Just sharing with all of you.
There has been discussions about various navamsha. Few prominent authors have expressed
that Normal navamsha (classical or Parashari, Cyclic, Harmonic or whatever we call them) does
not give good results while applying with Jaimini analysis. So people have come with possible
navamsha construction techniques.
Eminent astrologers like Rath-ji and Shanmukh-ji have come up with a navamsha what they call
Nadi-amsa or jaimini Navamsa. Sri PVR-ji has come with a slight variation of that.
Somehow, these methods do not appear logical to me. (How audacious !!!)
In these charts, I have mentioned that sometimes rasi & navamsha do not show any apparent
connection with the happening. Hence I tried few of these Navamsha techniques too. But later
on, I tried to see the Logic of these methods. And now I am trying a new method…….
Construction Logic
Basic Logic : The strength of rashi is most for following amsha
Chara : 1st amsha
(start)
th
Sthira : the 9 Amsa (end)
Dual : the 5th Amsha (middle).
It was felt that this property should get reflected in navamsha too.
That is, 1st part of any Chara Rashi should get that particular navamsha. 0-3d20 of Aries, Cancer, Libra
and Capricorn should get Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn respectively . In any Navamsha construction
method, this is followed.
The 9th Amsha of Sthira Rashi should get the same navamsha. That is 26d40’-30d0’ minute of Taurus,
leo, Scorpio and Aqua should get Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aqua respectively. Similarly, 13d20’-16d40’
part (5th amsha) of Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces (all dual rashi- I know I should write
Dwiswabhava….but dual is a good short-cut) should get the Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces
navamsha. However, in any of these navamsha methods, same is never attained.
The way out, logically, is very simple. Follow the starting points for navamsha counting espoused by
Krishna Mishra and counting shall be done in forward direction for Chara Rashi and in reverse direction
for other rashi-s (Sthira & Dual rashi). That way, we will get 9 navamshaka from each rasi (one of the
shortcomings of navamsha methods of Shanmukh-ji/ Rath-ji).
Mapping Logic
All navamsha starts from Chara Rashi
Direction of count : In forward direction for Chara Rashi. In reverse direction for Sthira & Dual rashi
Starting Point :
Ar, Leo & Sag  From Aries
Ta, Vi & Cp  From Cp
Ge, Li & Aqua  From Li
Cn, Sc & Pi  From Cn
The outcome would be as follows : (Arrow –Start of Counting and direction)
Ar
Ta
Ge
Cn
Leo
Virgo
Libra
Sco
Sag
Ar
Ta
Ge
Cn
Leo
Virgo
Lib
Sc
Sag
Cp
Aqua
Pi
Hope somebody does some experimentation with this one too before discarding.
Regards
P L Chakraborty
Cp
Aqua
Pi