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Swimming against the tide Raamdeo Agrawal 12 February 2016 What is the tide? Tide refers to current investment headwinds — Global deflation Economic stagnation in India Stagnant corporate profits Flattish markets 2 Flattish markets for 5 years 9,000.0 8,500.0 8,000.0 NIFTY 5 year CAGR : 6.3% 3 year CAGR : 6.9% 1 year CAGR : -16% 7,500.0 7,000.0 6,500.0 6,000.0 5,500.0 5,000.0 4,500.0 4,000.0 As on 10th Feb 2016 3 How to swim against the tide? (i.e. earn at least 15% absolute return for investors, irrespective of market conditions) 4 What helped us swim against the tide … … Knowledge First – 20 years of Wealth Creation Studies 5 … and how we swam against the tide Focused-35 v/s Nifty 12 MOSt Focused 35 Multicap Fund 12 Last 1 year F35 down by 3.3% NIFTY 11 11 10 10 9 9 Last 1 year Nifty down by 16.4% 8 Feb-15 Mar-15 As on 10th Feb 2016 Apr-15 May-15 Jun-15 Jul-15 Aug-15 Sep-15 Oct-15 Nov-15 Dec-15 Jan-16 6 General insights into investing 7 Importance & Knowability Matrix Knowable but Unimportant Important & Knowable Unknowable Unknowable & Unimportant Important but Unknowable Unimportant Important Knowable 8 Warren Buffett’s Investment Process a) A business we understand; b) Favorable long term economics; c) Able and trustworthy management; and d) A sensible price-tag. — 2007 Annual Letter 9 Powerful Mantra for Wealth Creation To make money in stocks you must have – the Vision to see them the Courage to buy them & the Patience to hold them. Patience is the rarest of the three. – Thomas Phelps in 100 to 1 In The Stock Market 10 Short-term v/s Long-term “In the short run, the market is a voting machine … … but in the long run, it is a weighing machine.” – Benjamin Graham 11 Short-term v/s Long-term Irrational in short-term, rational in long-term Rationality Rational Irrational Short-term Long-term Time 12 Market performance v/s Stock performance HDFC Bank outperforms, while peer SBI underperforms 250 Sensex HDFC Bank SBI 200 150 100 50 0 As on 10th Feb 2016 13 Stock performance v/s Portfolio performance Maximum loss on wrong stock is 1x Limited downside, Unlimited upside Stock 1 Stock 2 Stock 3 Stock 4 Stock 5 Stock 6 Stock 7 Stock 8 Stock 9 Stock 10 PORTFOLIO Weight Performance 10% -20% 10% -50% 10% -100% 10% 10% 10% 20% 10% 25% 10% 30% 10% 35% 10% 50% 10% 500% 100% 50% 14 3 sources of value Growth Value Only if growth is in the same franchise, and benefits from the competitive advantage Earning Power Value Franchise value from current competitive advantage Asset Replacement Value When entry is free, and there is no competitive advantage 15 Equity allocation & Market levels How investors allocate Index How investors should allocate High Index High Low Low Equity Allocation Equity Allocation 16 QGLP: Our Investment framework 17 QGLP in a nutshell Q : Quality of business & Quality of mgmt G : Growth in earnings L : Longevity of Quality & Growth P : reasonable Price of purchase 18 QGLP frameworks Quality frameworks Growth frameworks Longevity frameworks Price frameworks 19 Quality frameworks 20 Q – Quality Quality of Business x Quality of Management 1X1=1 1X0=0 0X1=0 21 Quality Frameworks Great, Good, Gruesome RoE Distribution of BSE 500 FY15 RoE No. of cos. > 25% 68 15-25% 120 < 15% 312 Only 14% of BSE 500 companies earn RoE higher than Cost of equity 22 Quality Frameworks (continued) Uncommon Profits … Emergence & Endurance Uncommon Profits in companies = Uncommon Wealth Creation in markets 1,400 1,200 4000 Asian Paints PAT (Rs crores) 3200 Asian Paints Stock Performance (both Asian Paints & Sensex Rebased to 100) 1,000 2400 200 Oct-09 Oct-08 Oct-07 Oct-06 Oct-05 Oct-04 Oct-03 Oct-02 FY02 FY03 FY04 FY05 FY06 FY07 FY08 FY09 FY10 FY11 FY12 FY13 FY14 FY15 0 23 Oct-15 Sensex performance 0 Oct-14 800 Oct-13 400 Oct-12 1600 Oct-11 600 Oct-10 800 Quality Frameworks (continued) Uncommon Profit & Company lifecycle 24 Quality Frameworks (continued) Value Migration “Value migrates from outmoded business design to superior business design.” — Adrian Slywotzxy 100% Private Banks Profit share up from 23% to 49% 80% 60% 40% PSU Banks Profit share down from 77% to 51% 20% 0% FY06 FY07 FY08 FY09 FY10 FY11 FY12 FY13 FY14 FY15 25 Quality Frameworks (continued) Quality v/s Growth 26 Growth Frameworks 27 G – Growth Understanding 2 years Growth is a science but Understanding long-term Growth potential is an art 28 Growth Frameworks India’s NTD (Next Trillion Dollar GDP) Linear growth … Every successive NTD of GDP takes fewer years 29 Growth Frameworks (continued) India’s NTD (Next Trillion Dollar GDP) … Exponential opportunity When per capita GDP doubles, discretionary spend becomes 10x 30 Quality Frameworks (continued) Winner Categories, Category Winners • Winner Categories = Consolidated sector + Scalability • Category Winners = Winning Categories + Entry Barriers + Great Management • Great Investments = Category Winners + Reasonable Valuation 31 Growth Frameworks (continued) 100x Indian benchmark indices rise 100x in 30 years 32 Growth Frameworks (continued) 100x 47 enduring 100x stocks over 1994-2014 Note: Price multiples are based on stocks being bought at the low price in the respective year of purchase, and held on to Mar-2014. 33 Longevity frameworks 34 L – Longevity Longevity of Quality & Growth Extending Competitive Advantage Period CAP (CAP framework covered later) Delaying mean reversion 35 Longevity Frameworks Longevity of Quality Extend CAP (Competitive Advantage Period), Delay mean reversion Companies enjoy CAP of some years … … but high-quality companies extend it 36 Longevity Frameworks (continued) Power of Compounding Longer the period, exponentially higher the multiple 37 Longevity Frameworks (continued) Longevity of Growth Sum multiples for different growth rates over different periods 38 Price frameworks 39 P – Price Reasonable Price which is significantly below the intrinsic value leaving good Margin of Safety 40 Price Frameworks Quality & Valuation Matrix Identify Quality stocks at reasonable valuation and hold on Quality Low High Valuation Low High 41 Price Frameworks Market Cap to GDP India’s current mkt cap > LPA but below peak of 100% of GDP 103 95 88 82 83 80 Average of 52% for the period 70 53 42 30 33 36 FY15 FY14 FY13 FY12 FY11 FY10 FY09 FY08 FY07 FY06 FY05 FY04 FY03 FY02 FY00 FY99 FY98 FY97 FY96 FY95 FY01 26 26 23 FY94 FY93 FY92 FY91 45 23 19 55 52 41 42 43 64 66 42 Price Frameworks Payback ratio Less than 1x is almost a sureshot formula for multi-bagger Payback ratio = Market Cap Next 5 years PAT 43 Conclusions You can swim against the tide (i.e. make money in flat markets) … provided you have the requisite skills. The requisite skills come from a good investment philosophy, and pig-headed determination of practising it. A good investment philosophy evolves after years of research, practice, and fine-tuning. We believe our investment philosophy – QGLP and its continuous improvement – should help us deliver sustained superior performance. 44 Thank you ! Happy investing using frameworks & best wishes for swimming against the tide !!