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UNIVERSITY OF TRENTO SCHOOL OF INTERNATIONAL STUDIES The International Scene and the Economic Government of Europe Proceedings of a Conference Organised by the Department of Economics, University of Trento, Trento 10 November 2003 Jean Paul Fitoussi Working Paper 01/2004 1 Founded in June 2001, the School for International Studies at the University of Trento is an interdisciplinary institution promoting advanced work in the fields of political science, international law and economics, sociology and contemporary history. The School coordinates a one-year Master's degree, a twoyear specialist degree and a three-year PhD programme in International Studies attended by students from a wide variety of national backgrounds. It promotes conferences and seminars on international themes for the academic community of the University of Trento. Further details about the School can be obtained at http://www.unitn.it/ssi/index.htm, or by email from the School administrator, dott. Silvia Tomaselli ([email protected]). Further information about the Working Papers, including forthcoming publications, can be obtained from Prof. Mark F. Gilbert ([email protected]). 2 Table of Contents Introduction.............................................................................................................. 4 The International Scene and the Economic Government of Europe ..................... 6 Discussion: ..............................................................................................................19 Table of Graphs Graph 1: GDP Growth Rates............................................................9 Graph 2: Unemployment Rates in the US and the EU......................9 Graph 3: The Financial Bubble.......................................................10 Graph 4:Productivity Growth in the United States and the Euro Zone ................................................................................................12 Graph 5: Interest rates, United States ............................................13 Graph 6: Interest Rates, Euro Zone ...............................................14 Graph 7: GDP per Capita at Current Market Prices and PPS, 19502000.........................................................................................15 Graph 8: Euro Area Divergences in Cyclical Positions ...................16 Table of Tables Table 1: Country Forecasts ............................................................11 Table 2: The Contribution of Consumer Spending to GDP Growth.12 Table 3: The Fiscal Policy Stance in the United States ..................14 Table 4: Growth of Real GDP, Ten-Year Average..........................15 Table 5: Wage Shares in the Business Sector ...............................16 Table 6: Budget Deficits .................................................................17 Table 7: Fiscal Policies in Europe and the United States ...............17 3 Introduction Prof. Andrea Leonardi: Ladies and Gentlemen, good afternoon It is with particular pleasure that we start this year’s series of meetings with the city of Trento, with one of the most distinguished economists in Europe. This series of meetings is now entering its third year and it would seem of particular importance to discuss and reflect upon matters that concern us directly; that concern us as scholars; that concern all of our students, that concern all citizens. The faculty of economics, thanks to the efforts of its former dean Enrico Zaninotto and of its new one Carlo Borzaga has proposed to bestow upon professor Jean-Paul Fitoussi the Honorary Chair “Bruno Kessler” of our University. Tomorrow the honorary chair will be officially conferred. Professor Fitoussi, who at present is in Trento, has accepted our invitation to give a presentation on one of the topics he has been addressing for years with particular insight. We are delighted that he has accepted our hospitality and has agreed to share some of his reflections with the citizens of Trento. He will be introduced by professor Roberto Tamborini director of the department of economics of our faculty. Before handing over to professor Fitoussi, I would like to thank him once more for being with us Prof. Roberto Tamborini Good evening everybody, I will briefly introduce our guest and the topic of this evening. Professor Fitoussi is internationally renown for his contributions to the theory of macroeconomics and for his elaboration of economic policies for growth and full-employment. However, he is known not only to specialists but also to a wider audience thanks to his posts in various public institutions, both in his country and in Europe, and above all thanks to his insightful and generous participation in the public debate on the most pressing themes of European politics. Professor Fitoussi also has special ties with Italy, in fact, this evening’s conference will be held in Italian. Perhaps his ties are with Florence in particular, but from now on they will also be with Trento. His ties with Italy are not only of a scientific nature and consist not only in having been a point of reference in the education of many Italian economists, myself included. His brilliant contributions to the newspaper “La Repubblica” are widely read, but above all he is known for his two recent books, translated into Italian, on the topic of the construction of the common European house “Il Dibattito Proibito” (The Forbidden Debate) and “Il Dittatore Benevolo” (The Benevolent Dictator) both published by Einaudi. 4 The two works represent a rare example of sophisticated popularisation, thanks to which both the scholar and the layman, step by step, and with great lucidity, are guided through difficult subject matters vital for the present and future of us Europeans. What is most striking about Fitoussi’s reflections about Europe, is his capacity to combine the “cold” –to express it like that - analytical thinking of the economist with the “hot” passion of the convinced- and why not – utopian European. Utopian in the sense of the creative utopia which has succeeded in transforming our continent from a heap of rubble left behind by two devastating wars into a home of reconciled and united peoples, able to share a growing part of their cultural, political and institutional identities. The road towards Europe, travelled thus far, has been long and not without surprises, and the successive stages are ever more ambitious and replete with difficulties. While on the one hand Fitoussi’s European passion provides us with the incitement to continue, his extraordinary capacity for economic analysis, on the other hand, provides us with the reasons to continue, and with the critical instruments needed to understand where the obstacles are located and how to overcome them. Obstacles which he, unafraid of going against the current also with respect to the mainstream of economic thought, locates with great clarity as much in the sphere of institutions and of European political parties as in the sphere of economic institutions and powers, denouncing the fatal attraction exerted by the status quo and putting us on guard against the growing temptation to circumvent democratic processes by erroneous technocratic and bureaucratic shortcuts. In this evening’s conference professor Fitoussi will paint a comprehensive picture of the international economic situation within which to place many of the peculiar aspects of the economic performance of Europe, i.e.: a subdued rate of economic growth; a stubbornly high unemployment rate; technological innovation which proceeds at a slower pace than in other parts of the global economy. Are these weaknesses destined to persist? Can we place our trust exclusively in the American model and in the American economic locomotive? Have there been mistaken policies in Europe, and which polices are required? How to place within the framework of the global economy the great institutional and political changes Europe is experiencing, i.e. the creation of the single currency; the new constitution, and enlargement? These are some of the questions that surely will emerge during the presentation, and on which professor Fitoussi will surely give us some food for thought. After the presentation there will be time for some questions from the audience. 5 The International Scene and the Economic Government of Europe (Prof Jean Paul Fitoussi) Thank you very much. Professor Leonardi and professor Tamborini have said so many nice things about me that I have lost my voice. I will try however, and I ask you to excuse my Italian. Be patient with me. First of all, it is a great honour for me to be here; a great honour to be named honorary professor of this university. I would like to thank all those who were involved in this; doctor Zaninotto, Axel Leijonhuvdud and Kumaraswamy Velupillai, who unfortunately is not present, but such is life. I will talk about the international economic scene and how it impinges on the evolution of the European Union. This evolution is characterised by a paradox; the construction of Europe has required a substantial relinquishment of sovereignty on the part of the member states, without, however, providing them with anything equivalent on the level of the Union. Thus the evolution of Europe privileges a mode of integration that consists first and foremost of containing the privileges of the member states within the bounds of ever more constraining regulations. The Union has progressively emptied the seats of national sovereignty without simultaneously replacing it with European sovereignty. In fact, the government of Europe resembles more a government of rules than a government of choices. But the construction of a union implies the extension of democracy to a wider area and not its restriction at the national level. In other words, perhaps the problem is not primarily located in the loss of sovereignty of the states but rather in the inability to propose to the populations concerned an alternative to negative integration and policies by default. In this way the constraints freely accepted by governments in the framework of European regulations substantially reduce the extent and significance of electoral competition. If the national democracies agree to tie their own hands so that the public good becomes European, without the public good on the European level being governed according to democratic principles, a democratic deficit emerges both at the level of the member states and the union. This is the challenge to be faced not only by the European polity but also by the European economy. The macroeconomic policies of the Union, that is to say, the instruments used by governments to provide society with a collective assurance of economic activity, suffer from a similar defect, even though they are a matter of fundamental importance. A well orchestrated economic policy can sustain the growth of employment, may enable the economy to reach new growth paths determined by technological changes, and can facilitate the implementation of structural reforms. If conducted badly, economic policies instead may slow down the growth of the standard of living, aggravate unemployment, or even hinder structural reforms. For the conduct of its economic policies the European Union relies mainly on three institutions. The European Central Bank, the Growth and Stability Pact, and a Directorate 6 General for Competition of the European Commission. The European Central Bank (ECB) is the equivalent of a ministry of economic activity because setting interest rates has a direct effect on activity in Europe. Hence the Union disposes of a minister of economic activity, a secretary of state for the surveillance of the public budgets, and a minister for competition, each of them equipped with supra-national competencies. From the point of view of its overall architecture this arrangement evokes the structure of a federation. That the term federation in practice is hardy ever used is due to the fact that the governance of the economic model of the Union resembles more the management of independent authorities than a political decision-making processes. Is such a situation acceptable in the long run? I believe not. Because the economic policy stance of the union must not, at least not in its essential aspects, be detached from democratic processes. This is unacceptable. In fact, the inability of European voters to exert influence over the rules that affect their daily lives without doubt constitutes a limitation of political freedoms. Hence it becomes legitimate to ask if we are not assisting in the evolution of Europe towards a different political regime; a political regime that is not the one Europe claims to embody before the eyes of the world. The problem is that even though macroeconomic and competition policies are distant, they are connected, being simultaneously complementary and interchangeable. They are complementary because, on the one hand, the structural reforms deemed necessary by competition policy will have much more chance of succeeding the more favourable the macroeconomic context is. On the other hand, the efficiency of macroeconomic policies depends on the structural context in which they are pursued. They can also be considered interchangeable in the sense that the same goals, for example full employment or growth, can in principle be achieved using either instrument; macroeconomic policies or competition policy. The judgement on the appropriateness of the economic institutions of the Union will differ according to whether the complementarity or the interchangeability is emphasised. The first, in fact, leads to an extended vision of the European policy mix in which instruments are considered strongly interdependent. This interdependence requires a tighter coordination and a higher degree of centralisation, probably under the auspices of a common political authority. The conception of intechangeability of policy instruments is of a more liberal inspiration and is perfectly compatible with the present institutional architecture. The fact that the fiscal prerogatives of the member states have been put in custody, along with the creation of an independent monetary authority, whose sole mission is price stability, cannot but weaken the capacity of the institution to intervene; an institution that de facto takes the place of a European state, namely the council of the heads of state and government. Competition policy, and its application to the public and social spheres by means of deregulation, thus becomes the privileged instrument of the European project. Hence one does not need to be in favour of either one 7 of these conceptions in order to conclude that with respect to the way the member states are governed, the first implies continuity, whereas the second constitutes a clear break. This is what I will try to show scrutinizing the international economic scene. In 2001 all the forecasting institutions of the planet predicted for the year 2002 a rate of growth of 3% for Europe and of less than 2% for America. In 2002, realising that they were mistaken because growth in Europe was 0.8% in 2002 and 2.4% in the United States, they decided to make the same forecast for 2003 of 2.5% for Europe and the United States; and they were wrong again because the rate of growth in the United States was 2.5%, as compared to a meagre 0.5%, or perhaps even zero, in Europe. What we need to know is, why did this forecasting error occur? What might explain this fact? Is there a rationale behind this fact? Yes there is, because on the one hand the malfunctioning of the private sector has been much more pronounced in the United States, i.e., over-investment; the system of governance; the almost mafia like practices in US business as revealed by American stock exchanges. On the other hand, economic policies have been much more reactive than in Europe. In short, in Europe the policies were wrong: in the US the private sector malfunctioned. But since the period was characterised by a proliferation of exceptional circumstances - stock market crash, two wars, September 11, not taking into account climate changes - the malfunctioning of public policies was more important than the malfunctioning of the private sector. Europe now hopes that the recovery across the Atlantic will pull its economy out of the recession because nobody believes, that the European economy can recover from the present phase on its own accord. There is no internal engine, no internal autonomy in Europe. Hence we expect growth from America or Japan, or from the rest of the world, but not from ourselves. Is this a reasonable hope? 8 Graph 1: GDP Growth Rates 10 8 United States 6 4 2 0 EU 15 -2 -4 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 00 01 02 01 02 Graph 2: Unemployment Rates in the US and the EU 11 10 EU 15 9 8 7 6 United States 5 4 3 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 9 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 00 In order to answer this question we need to look a bit at economic history. When we compare growth rates in Europe and in the United States (Graph 1) we see that the so-called locomotive does not really pull well. There have been periods when the United States grew rapidly while Europe stagnated. This becomes even clearer when we look at unemployment rates during the last twenty years (Graph 2). Hence, history shows that the locomotive does not operate automatically. What we know is that the American recovery is gaining force, but its impact on Europe will depend on exchange-rate and interest-rate effects It would be terrible for Europe if the Dollar collapsed and long-term interest rates would rose. Now lets look at this financial bubble (Graph 3). The problem in the United States, as I said just a moment ago, was that of the malfunctioning of the private sector. The key to this malfunctioning was an enormous overinvestment in new technologies. A crisis of the kind that existed before the Second World War but which had not occurred since. The reason why this malfunctioning was considered truly serious was that the lesson drawn from the first and second world wars was that it requires a long time to surmount an over-investment crisis. But perhaps the correction of excessive investment in new technologies proceeds much faster because such technologies have a shorter life cycle. Graph 3: The Financial Bubble 400 350 S&P500 300 Dow Jones 30 Industrials Nasdaq composite 250 200 150 100 50 01/2003 10/2002 07/2002 04/2002 01/2002 10/2001 07/2001 04/2001 01/2001 10/2000 07/2000 04/2000 01/2000 10/1999 07/1999 04/1999 01/1999 10/1998 07/1998 04/1998 01/1998 10/1997 07/1997 04/1997 01/1997 If one looks at the forecasts for certain countries, a feeling of sadness prevails (Table 1). Germany grew by 0.2% in 2002 and 0% in 2003. But France does not perform any better: If France had a somewhat higher growth 10 rate in 2002 this was because it was an election year. In Italy instead there were no elections in 2002 and the figures accordingly were sad. Table 1: Country Forecasts GDP, volume Share 2002 2003 2004 Germany 5.2 0.2 0.0 1.6 France 3.5 1.2 0.4 1.5 Italy 3.4 0.4 0.3 1.3 Spain 1.9 2.0 2.2 2.7 The Netherlands 1.0 0.3 -0.6 0.5 Euro Zone 17.3 0.9 0.5 1.6 United Kingdom 3.4 1.9 1.8 2.5 European Union 21.5 1.1 0.7 1.8 United States 22.0 2.4 2.5 3.2 Japan 9.0 0.2 2.5 1.4 China 10.1 8.0 7.5 7.6 Other Asian Countries 13.6 4.5 4.7 5.5 Latin America 8.8 -0.6 1.6 3.6 Russia 4.1 4.3 6.0 4.6 Central and Eastern Europe 2.5 2.9 3.3 4.1 World 100 2.7 3.1 3.7 Thus, as far as the euro zone is considered we can really see that it is not on a normal growth path. By now we are talking of a slowdown which started in the second half of 2000, meaning four years of growth below its potential level. The story in the United Kingdom is somewhat different since here the annual growth rate is more or less equal to the potential growth rate. In the United States instead the story is quite different. Japan at the moment seems to be in a better situation than Europe. Europe instead at present is bringing up the rear of economic growth. If we try to explain why Europe has lagged behind the US in terms of economic growth, the answer is simple. US policies have strongly supported economic activity. Monetary and fiscal policies have been extraordinarily expansionary and have had the expected effects. Consumers, realizing that the state would provide an assurance of economic activity, have been the true engine of growth. At the same time excess capital is being absorbed. Above all, the high rate of productivity growth, which was due to the large investments of the 1990s, seems to continue also in a period of slowdown. Hence the contribution of consumption to overall growth has been strong in the United States, 2 percentage points during 2002-2003, whereas it has been very weak in Europe (Table 2). Comparing productivity in Europe and the United States, one notes that what was considered to be an exceptional period, the second half of the 1990s in the United States, seems to continue and even to accelerate. However, this is intermingled with the productivity cycle. In Europe there is no sign that 11 productivity is increasing. This is no puzzle because investment in Europe was not strong in the 1990s, and investment is the privileged means for introducing new technologies. Table 2: The Contribution of Consumer Spending to GDP Growth 2002 2003 GDP Growth United States 2.4 2.5 Contribution of Consumption 2.2 2.0 GDP Growth Euro Zone 0.9 0.5 Contribution of Consumption 0.3 0.7 But there is also hope, If one compares the development of productivity during the previous decade in the United States and the European Union (Graph 4), one notes two things: the first is that productivity growth in the United states surpassed the European rate only during the second part of the 1990s. Before that is was much weaker. If we look at the whole decade, the growth rate of productivity was slightly higher in Europe than in America. What makes the difference is the fact that the industries that employ new technologies have a much higher growth rate in the United States than in the European Union. This simply means that the process of diffusion of new technologies has proceeded faster in the United States than in Europe. This is normal, because in high growth economies also diffusion is more rapid, whereas diffusion is slower if growth rates are subdued. Graph 4:Productivity Growth in the United States and the Euro Zone 7 Euro Zone United States 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 -1 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 00 01 02 03 As far as monetary policy is concerned we see that that the policy reactivity in the United States has been incredibly strong (Graph 5): In six months the interest rate went from 6% to less than 2%. If we look at Europe we see that the response has been much weaker: from 4-4.5% to 2% (Graph 6). But we also see that budgetary policies have responded very forcefully in the United States; the budget went from a surplus of 1.4% to a deficit of 12 4.6%, an enormous 6 points difference (Table 3). And if we look at the structural deficit the difference is almost five points. Graph 5: Interest rates, United States 9 8 Long term 7 6 5 short term 4 3 2 1 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 13 2000 2001 2002 2003 Graph 6: Interest Rates, Euro Zone 10 9 8 Long term 7 6 5 short term 4 3 2 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 Table 3: The Fiscal Policy Stance in the United States 2000 2001 2002 2003 Surplus/GDP 1.4 -0.5 -3.4 -4.6 Cyclical Correction 0.9 -0.2 -2.9 -4.0 Source: OECD Economic Outlook, June 2003 The critical question in this summary of the economic situation is: what will happen to the Dollar? Why has the dollar depreciated by almost 30% againts the Euro since November 2000? Why? There is a very simple explanation. The deficit of the private sector is enormous in the United States; it is in the order of 5%, which is a historically high level. And how is this deficit to be financed? We have done some computations and the answer is that the rest of the world will need to increase the share of American assets in its portfolios by 2% per year. This is huge. Will it happen? My answer is yes. Why? Because the rate of return on American activities is much higher and hence it is worthwhile buying American assets. If we look at the euro zone, we see a completely different growth story. The euro zone grew by 3.4% in 2000, 1. 4% in 2001, 0.8% in 2002, 0.5% in 2003 and perhaps, perhaps, we don’t know, 1.6% in 2004. Hence the question 14 I want to ask is: why does subdued growth seem to be a long-term characteristic of Europe? Can this episode help me answer the question? I believe so. First, if we look at the problem in a long-term perspective from 1950 to the present, one sees that during the first phase, living standards in Europe approached those in the United States. This, however, came to an end in 1975 and since then there is no more catching-up (Graph 7). Japan, instead, which was considered the sick economy of the world, continued to catch-up with the United States until 1995. If we look at a more recent period from 1985 to 2004 we see that until 1994 the euro zone had the worst performance in the world, and was particularly bad in the last decade (Table 4). Japan, instead which also performed badly is recovering from this period. Graph 7: GDP per Capita at Current Market Prices and PPS, 1950-2000. Table 4: Growth of Real GDP, Ten-Year Average 1985-1994 1995-2004 United States 2.9 3.2 Euro area 2.4 2.0 European Union 2.4 2.2 Japan 3.4 1.3 Other advanced economies 3.8 3.3 In order to explain this difference the debate usually refers to the socalled euro sclerosis, i.e. the lack of sufficient structural reforms in European economies. However, there is an indicator of structural reforms. This indicator is the share of wages in GDP (Table 5). Looking at what happened in the different areas of the world we can see that the wage share dropped substantially in those areas that performed badly. In the US the wage share remained constant, it dropped by 6 points in the euro zone but only by 3 points in the EU. The drop has been particularly pronounced in France and 15 Italy, almost 10 points; an enormous reduction of 10 points of the wage share in a period of 20 years. Table 5: Wage Shares in the Business Sector 1981-83 1991-93 2003 United States 50.9 49.7 49.5 Euro area 54.0 50.6 48.2 European Union 52.5 50.0 49.5 France 52.3 45.0 42.5 Italy 55.2 51.0 46.9 United Kingdom 50.4 54.7 59.3 Japan 66.4 59.8 55.6 And if we look at the more recent period we see an output gap, i.e. an insufficiency of demand with respect to supply (Graph 8). Demand is too low in the euro zone and particularly in Italy. This may be a detail, but we can see that demand is much lower with respect to supply in the euro zone than in the United States. Therefore, how can we explain the fact that Europe has experienced subdued growth during the last twenty years even though there have been structural adjustments, as can be gauged from the substantial drop in the wage share? Moreover, it is important to note that this drop has not come about by means of inflation. The wage share has not been lowered due to inflation. Thus, how is this situation to be explained? Graph 8: Euro Area Divergences in Cyclical Positions The explanation, for the period since the 1990s, is the Stability and Growth Pact. European budget deficits seemed rather high in the context of this pact. Yet we need to remember that in the United states the swing in the budget was in the order 6 percentage points; whereas in France, which had the most pronounced growth of the public deficit, the difference was less than 3 % (Table 6). In comparison, the figures for Germany are 3.4% and less than 16 2% for Italy. Spain is a special case, which I can explain afterwards during the discussion. Germany France Italia Spain * Estimates Table 6: Budget Deficits 2000 2001 2002* -1.3 -2.8 -3.5 -1.3 -1.6 -3.1 -1.5 -2.6 -2.6 -0.3 -0.3 0.1 2003* -3.9 -4.0 -2.9 -0.2 2004 -3.7 -4.1 -3.2 0.0 Since the deficit figures do not take the economic cycle into account it is necessary to calculate the discretionary element of fiscal policies in order to compare the policies in the US and Europe (Table 7). Looking at it from this perspective we can see that during this period, characterised by a substantial slowdown of the global economy, the fiscal impulse has amounted to 1.4 points of GDP each year in the United States; compared with 0.2% in the in the euro zone, seven times lower. In the United Kingdom the fiscal impulse amounted to 1% per year, 4 percent over 4 years. Therefore the really important thing when looking at this table is that in the “normal” economies, if I may put it like this, economic policy has displayed a strong reactivity whereas this was not the case in the euro zone. Table 7: Fiscal Policies in Europe and the United States Growth of GDP 2001 2002 2003 2004 United States 0.3 2.4 2.5 2.9 Euro Zone 1.6 0.9 0.6 1.3 United Kingdom 2.1 1.9 1.8 2.3 Budget Deficit 2001 2002 2003 2004 United States 0.4 -2.4 -4.3 -3.2 Euro Zone -1.7 -2.2 -2.8 -2.4 United Kingdom 0.5 -1.5 -2.4 -2.5 Fiscal Impulse 2001 2002 2003 2004 United States 0.6 2.9 1.8 0.2 Euro Zone 0.6 0.4 -0.2 -0.2 Germany 1.5 0.2 -0.6 -0.2 France 0.3 1.3 -0.1 -0.3 Italy 0.4 0.3 -0.3 0.1 United Kingdom 1.0 2.0 0.5 0.2 2001-2004 2.1 1.2 2.1 2001-2004 -4.7 -1.2 -3.2 2001-2004 1.4 0.2 0.2 0.3 0.1 0.9 The problem therefore is that the Stability and Growth Pact obstructs the reactivity of national policies, and negatively impacts on the expectations of the private sector. The Pact implies that if growth is strong, taxes will be 17 cut, but if growth is weak taxes will be increased. This is an upside down world which does not provide a rational basis for the private sector on which to form expectations and thus increases the degree of economic uncertainty. This is what I criticised at the beginning of my presentation namely that we have a federal government which operates according to fixed rules and not to choices This proves that democracy, which is a desirable form of government in itself, is also desirable for reasons of economic efficiency. And this is easy to understand because democracy permits governments to respond flexibly and to correct past errors. This possibility does not exist in a government of rules, and this means that no authority carries the responsibility for effective macroeconomic policies. This is so for the following reason: the European authorities, this federal government that I outlined above, do not have the democratic legitimacy to respond in cases of exceptional events, and the national governments no longer have the power to respond. Hence there is a sovereignty vacuum in the euro zone, a vacuum that leads to bad policies. It also leads to dogmatic policies, because policies conducted according to rules that were fixed at a certain moment in time cannot be effective. This, however, is not the fault of the European authorities. The problem is that the rules are instituted by means of international treaties, and international treaties have a peculiar characteristic, namely that they cannot be modified without unanimity. That is the reason why it is wrong to talk of a European constitution. What is being created is not a constitution, but an international treaty that cannot be changed without unanimity. Imagine what the situation would be, let’s say of France, if constitutions could only be modified with unanimity. We would never have had another constitution other than the original one. We would never have had the constitution of 1958, which has allowed France to rebound. This is what must be considered the essential problem for all those who are sincerely pro-European. There is a need for democracy. We do not want to have a system that nobody understands. Only few have understood that these days we are not discussing a European constitution but an international treaty, which is something altogether different. And thus there will be few who understand when there will be two presidents of Europe. The problem is how to arrive at a system that operates according to the rules of democracy, because I believe that democracy is more important than economic effectiveness. What my research allows me to say, however, is that a democratic form of government is always more effective than a benevolent dictator. That can be observed anywhere, also in the less developed countries. Thank you. 18 Discussion: Prof. Ferdinando Targetti: First of all I would particularly like to thank professor Fitoussi for the masterly way in which he combined economics, economic policies, and the policies of the institutions, apart from being admirable it is also good to hear. The concluding remarks of professor Fitoussi, bring to mind something one of my teachers, Nicholas Kaldor, wrote in the 1940s. Kaldor, in one of his less noted articles, compared the democratic English economy, which at the outbreak of the war seemed a bit dilapidated, to the German economy, which was dictatorial under Speer but seemed to be an extremely effective and efficient economic machine in the 1940. In a detailed and concise analysis Kaldor showed that exactly the opposite was the case: the democratic English economy was more efficient than the German war machine. I would like to ask two questions: one question concerns the issue of economic policy. Professor Fitoussi tells us, correctly, that seen from the perspective of a comparison between the US and the EU, this Keynesian policy, which the Americans pursue, also has long-term growth effects and not only contributes to the short-term cyclical recovery. In the EU, instead, we are not able to pursue such policies for lack of appropriate institutions. I will play the devil’s advocate a bit; there will be few of those around here, and that is why I take on this role. I would point out that many economists of high standing, people we value like Krugman and Stiglitz, argue that the twin deficit created by American policies renders the international macroeconomic equilibrium unstable because the Chinese central bank will have to reinvest the entire surplus in dollars in order to avoid havoc. I do not want to elaborate this, we all know this as it is discussed everyday in the newspapers, What would be the likely scenario in a future world in which not only the United States but also Europe pursued similar policies. Desirable, but what would happen to the international equilibrium? The second question: Some people argue that the European economic institutions, at least as far as the supply of public services is concerned, should be of a more federal character, whereas budgetary policies, i.e. countercyclical macroeconomic management should not be. Others instead, first and foremost professor Fitoussi, argue that both the supply of public services and budgetary policies should be conducted by a federal state. We have a European Central Bank, but, like the United States, we need to have a federal budget. At this point, however one wonders through what process we could arrive at such a situation. I totally agree that the federal European state should be able to incur debts, and these would be public European debts. What could the technical mechanism be? What could we suggest, so as to create a European public debt while at the same time maintaining the goal of public debt-reduction in member states such as Italy? This is a problem that the Americans do not have, but we Europeans do. 19 Prof. Jean-Paul Fitoussi: Two nice questions. Lets start with the twin deficit. I am not saying that the present US policies are good policies for the Americans. Bush clearly pursues right wing policies. American policies could have been better had they proceeded in a different way. When I say that I believe in democracy, I mean that a right-wing government should pursue rightist policies and a leftist government leftist policies, What president Bush is doing is a policy of the right, but it is a policy that functions. There are always two possibilities, Fortunately we have this choice otherwise there would never be any alternations of policies. There are two ways to pull an economy out of a slump: cutting taxes or increasing spending on public services. One policy is associated with the Left, the other with the Right. But both policies are effective. It is not the first time that these kinds of policies have been pursued in the United States. During the Reagan era the problem of the twin deficit existed as well. Also then many Europeans were sceptical, predicting that the US would starve within five years. But it did not happen. Second part of the question: If Europe constructed a federal state then there would be no twin deficit in the United States because the current account deficit would disappear. The current account deficit is also the consequence of the fact that the US growth rate is higher than that in Europe. If we assume for a moment a world with only two countries, the United States and Europe, then the current account deficit will reflect the growth differential between these two countries. If 'Europe grows at the same rate the problem disappears and only the public deficit remains. But the public deficit does not pose a problem of sustainability because productivity growth in the economy exceeds 2.5 %. This means that economic agents are very solvent because their income grows by at least 2.5% per year. There is no problem of solvency when people grow much richer. This for the first question. The second question is the really difficult one. How to proceed? I do not know, but I believe that the first step is to recognize the nature of the present situation. In the end, our national governments, who are constrained by the Stability and Growth Pact are like provincial governments. Those who for us are prime ministers, or presidents of the republic, in reality are but governors of provinces because they no longer have powers, due to the fact that they operate under constraints similar to those in a federation. They are only left with the semblance of power, and this I think is dangerous because people believe that they do have power whereas they don’t. People have expectations concerning their power but national government cannot fulfil these expectations and hence we need a bit of federal power. How to do it? It is very easy: one needs to decide. One needs to convene a true constitutional assembly, and not a constitutional assembly that strikes compromises in order to satisfy Poland, or Spain or France or Italy etc. We find ourselves in a peculiar situation in Europe in the sense that the truth is no longer spoken. When the heads of state meet in the European Council they tell lies, because everybody knows that it will not be possible to arrive at a deficit of less than 20 3% in 2004 or 2005. But they say so, nevertheless, and that is the European problem. If no one speaks the truth anymore, nobody will be able to understand the situation. We need to make a qualitative leap, and we cannot wait for the 25 members states to agree on the process of the democratisation of Europe, because it will not happen. Perhaps there are other ways, like strengthening cooperation between a subset of member states. For example lets turn Italy, France and Germany into one single country. Why not? Two presidents will lose their job, but that is not a serious problem. That would be an alternative road, but who believes that this road will be taken? The problem in the present framework is that each country that is not under a fiscal constraint at the time, such as Spain, will point the finger at other countries thus reinforcing the influence of these rules. Rules, which, as someone you know said, are stupid. Someone said it whose task it is to implement rules he considers stupid. The rules must be intelligent; one cannot accept stupid rules. I am not sure if I have answered the question. Prof Enrico Zaninotto: The view you have expounded is extremely fascinating and very important, but it also seems to me that there are other views, and other comments which present a different perspective. Only yesterday in the newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore Mc Faden expressed a point of view that is the opposite of yours. He argued that Bush’s policy of lowering taxes has only had a secondary effect on American growth, whereas the primary effect is due to flexibility and the capacity to reallocate resources. And that, I believe, in reality is a problem in Europe, and in Italy in particular. I am not sure if the reduction of the wage share is an indicator of structural reforms, or if it only depends on the downward pressure exerted on wages due to the fact that flexibility does not improve. Thus wages are kept low while labour market mobility does not increase. That is to say that a more appropriate indicator of structural reforms would be the increase in variance instead of the reduction of the average. In Italy we are witnessing a strange phenomenon, which is that during the economic crisis the number of people employed is increasing while simultaneously unemployment is falling and productivity drops dramatically. Hence we are seeing factor substitution effects but no reallocation of production. Question from the floor: May I ask a very small question: How is this indicator of wage share of GDP calculated? For example is non-dependent labour included or not? This would seem important because one of the great changes has been the transition from stable forms of employment, or in any case dependent employment, to other forms of employment in many countries of the euro zone. Question from the floor: I would also like a clarification on the wage share indicator. I did not understand if you attribute this reduction to the effects of 21 structural reforms in Europe, to budgetary policies, and thus more narrowly to tax policies, or to the low growth rate? Prof. Jean-Paul Fitoussi: It is easy to explain what has increased labour market flexibility, namely the low rate of growth which has created mass unemployment. In a situation of mass unemployment in several countries, wage earners no longer have the bargaining power to resist wage cuts or stagnating wages. Let me give you some figures. From 1983 to today, i.e. during the last twenty years, wages in France - and I believe the situation is worse still in Italy - have increased by 15%. This means 0.8% per year. At the same time the composition of the labour force has changed substantially because the level of education today is much higher than it was twenty years ago. Correcting for this effect, I would say that wages have stagnated during the last twenty years. This implies a great flexibility because growth did not disappear during this period but instead amounted to 2% per year. As for the statistical question: These are figures from the OECD that have been corrected for independent wage earners so as to allow for longterm comparisons. Concerning flexibility and McFadden’s view: There is an argument, with a long tradition, according to which more flexibility and more inequality are better for the economy. But this argument has never been proven. There have been thousands of empirical and theoretical studies that have tried to make this argument but they have been able to demonstrate only truly minor effects. I will strengthen my point because this is a question that I will also discuss tomorrow. I recently participated in an international meeting in New York were Steven Nickell, who is one of the experts in this field, was also present. Nickell presented a paper that purported to show that the increase in European unemployment is entirely the result of rigidities. Hence he presented an empirical model correlating variables of structural rigidities, like unemployment benefits with unemployment, showing that all the independent variables were statistically significant. I was asked to present a paper commenting on Nickell. I redid all of Nickell’s computations. The problem to be explained was an increase in unemployment by 400% but all the indicators of structural rigidities managed to explain only 3% out of 400. What I want to say is that they did not explain the phenomenon at all, even though they were considered the cause of the phenomenon. At that point I made the following argument: It was the 5th of October 2002 and hence only a short while after September 11. President Bush had recently proposed to extend the duration of unemployment benefits. I argued that in ten years when the scientists do their computations, they will argue that unemployment has increased because unemployment benefits were extended. Exactly the opposite was the case. We need to realise that our labour market institutions are not exogenous. They are not the creation of a politician who wanted to be generous. Labour market institutions are endogenous. Hence, even if I do understand the flexibility argument, I do not understand how an entire profession can adhere 22 to such a view without any proof of its validity. But, as far as the macroeconomic argument is concerned, we have proof in abundance, and very robust at that. Better still: Why did the most flexible economy require a 6 points swing in the budget in order to stimulate growth. If flexibility were the answer it would not have required such policies. But they were pursued. Why? Prof Roberto Tamborini: Given that there are no more questions from the floor I would like to return to the question of a lack of appropriate institutions. Recently I have tried to reconstruct the doctrines which have informed the construction of the governance structure of the European Union’s economy. I have also called this “the Brussels Consensus” in order to draw analogies with what is known, also in the press, as “the Washington Consensus”. The Washington Consensus is, so to speak, the book of etiquette of good policies. The Washington Consensus is global in outlook and takes a positive view of globalisation, liberalisation etc. After ten years’ discussing the European constitution, we have now arrived at a Brussels consensus, i.e. the book of etiquette of good European policies and good economic institutions. Over the years I have noted a change in accent. During the first years this book argued – concerning the most emblematic case discussed by professor Fitoussi - that having a single big Central Bank and many small independent states with individual fiscal authorities – the ECB Snowwhite surrounded by fiscal dwarfs – was a good thing exactly for the reasons advanced by the vision criticised by Prof. Fitoussi. Which is to say, many small fiscal authorities constrained by a pact and by a big Central Bank can cause little or no harm to the good conduct of monetary policy. By now this vision has changed somewhat. In the most recent document a different, less markedly ideological vision emerges, namely the following one: “Indeed, perhaps it is true that in order to govern a big economy well, not only a central bank is needed but also a federal fiscal authority. But, it is not the technocrats who oppose a federal fiscal policy; not those who have written the Maastricht Treaty. Instead the governments of the member states do not want to relinquish additional slices of their power in order to create a federal fiscal authority. The federal European government, to put it like that, might be on the agenda but if the governments oppose it, it will not come into being.” The reasons why national governments do not want it are diverse. For example, they do not want to relinquish part of the control they have over domestic resources, or they do not want to have to come to terms with a big centralised power in Brussels. Hence, from this perspective the conflict is not one between technocrats and democracy. So what is it? A lack of will and courage to complete the work on the part of the governments? And whence could this courage come from? Or, if we wish to put it in economists’ terms, what incentives need to be created in order for the governments to transfer more power and more prerogatives to a centralised fiscal authority in Brussels? 23 Prof. Jean-Paul Fitoussi: I never thought of it as a conflict between technocracy and politics. The technocracy only has as much room of manoeuvre as the politicians are willing to accord it. The problem lies in the semblance of power. It is very difficult for national governments to accept the loss of also the semblance of power. Moreover, a bit of power they still have, like the power to fill posts. It is very difficult to voluntarily accept this loss of power. But there is another more important, element, which is the absence of a truly European public space. Thus we know where we need to go but we also know that the road will be long, because it will take more time than I initially thought to create this European public space. In the mean time one should avoid doing stupid things like pursuing restrictive policies when the economy is in a slump; or fighting inflation tooth and nail when there is no inflation. Thus how to proceed towards the European political space, the construction of which will take at least ten years? Earlier I proposed to give some more room to democracy. I have also proposed to subtract public investments from the public deficit. In addition I have proposed for the European parliament to define the inflation target of the European Central Bank such as to make the Bank accountable to a political authority. Therefore, I propose more than cosmetic changes, changes instead which try to prevent dogmatism when dealing with problems that are of essential importance for the people, such as employment and the improvement of the standard of living. Hence the need for some more flexibility in changing the rules while waiting for this European public space to become reality. Question from the floor: I would like to know what strengths Europe has in terms of economic development and growth with respect to the United States. For example, Japan as well as China, understand themselves as continents. With its cheap and abundant labour force and its population China is a very interesting market for both the United States and for Europe. I would like to know what strengths, hitherto unused; Europe has which will allow it to confront the economic growth of the United States Prof. Jean-Paul Fitoussi: I did not talk of the economic field as if it were a battlefield. Japan has its strengths. China has it strengths, above all in the future. Europe has enormous strengths. It has a market of 400 million inhabitants. If we look at countries like Italy and France we note that they have an hourly rate of productivity higher than in America. One hour of work in Italy is 4% more productive than one hour of work in the United States. Thus there are strengths. The productivity of the workforce is particularly elevated in Europe. Then there is the size of the market, the education of the workforce. But there also is the problem of the ageing population. But the problem of an ageing population is also an opportunity to welcome all wouldbe imigrants who want to abide by the rules, to Europe. Thus I do not think that there is a structural problem in Europe, and this became obvious during the so-called Trente Glorieuses (1945-1975), or during the 1990s. Europe has a 24 substantial capacity for growth and employment creation. The issue is, to put it differently, that it is not the European societies but the European governments that have a problem of competitiveness. Prof Roberto Tamborini: Thank you, Professor Fitousssi, for the splendid meeting you have offered us, and thanks to all of you for participating. Given that you will become an honorary professor, our wish is that you may draw closer to our university and hence also our society. Thanks again. 25 WORKING PAPERS OF THE SCHOOL FOR INTERNATIONAL STUDIES 01/2003. Majocchi, Alberto, Fiscal Policy Coordination in the European Union and the Financing of the Community Budget. 02/2003. Fabbrini; Sergio, How Can a Market be Built Without a State. 01/2004 Fitoussi, Jean-Paul, The International Scene and the Economic Government of Europe 26 PUBBLICAZIONE REGISTRATA PRESSO IL TRIBUNALE DI TRENTO 27