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their orbits (or on their axis) they are spheres floating” (Ansari) Astronomy and the Qur’an It adds the words “(all of them are planets)” and “(or on their axis)” in parenthesis, because this is not in the Arabic at all. So let’s ignore this one as being too loose a translation, and ask “what does Sura 36:3740 really teach?” There are three possibilities: June 2006 version Orbits of sun and moon: The Qur’an taught that the sun and moon moved in continuous orbits/path around the earth of a particular, ordained period Some Muslims say the Qur’an contains scientific truth about the orbits of the sun, moon, (and sometimes planets). I was interested in investigating this, and we will take a few twists and turns before arriving at a conclusion. But the bottom line is: unless a Muslim viewed these verses as the language of appearance, these verses would disprove, not prove the scientific accuracy of the Qur’an. Swim to its resting place: The sun swims across the sky during the day, and goes to its resting place at night, returning to its place the previous dawn. Likewise the moon swims in its path. Sura 36:37-40 says, “And a sign for them is the night: We withdraw there from the day, and behold they are plunged in darkness; 38 and the sun runs its course for a period determined for it; that is the decree of (him), the exalted in might, the allknowing. 39 And the moon-we have measured for it mansions (to traverse) till it returns like the old (and withered) Lower part of a date stalk. (40) It is not permitted to the sun to catch up the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to law).” (Yusuf Ali’s translation, original edition) [Words in parenthesis are in parenthesis in the translation.] Language of appearance: Same as the previous, but this is intended as a description of how things appear, not how they actually are. Let’s Go Back to the Arabic Course/Orbit: Yusuf Ali discusses the Arabic word in question in footnote 3983 on p.1326. He says, “Mustaqarr may mean: (1) a limit of time, a period determined, as in vi. 67, or (2) a place of rest or quiescence; or (3) a dwelling place, as in ii. 36. I think the first meaning is best applicable here; but some commentators take the second meaning. In that case the simile would be that of the sun running a race while he is visible to us, and taking a rest during the night to prepare himself to renew his race the following day. His stay with the antipodes appears to us as his period of rest.” Some Muslims point out “the sun runs its course for a period determined for it” and the word “orbit” at the end. However, we cannot make too much of the sun’s “orbit” because Yusuf Ali’s translation has a footnote (17) on that word saying “circuit, course”. Furthermore, the revised edition of Yusuf Ali says “resting place” instead of “period”. Move/swim/rotate: yasbahuna can mean hastening on, though its most direct meaning is swimming. How Freely Do Some Muslims Translate the Qur’an? Swim/rotate: The famous Muslim commentator Ibn Taymiyah (died 1328 A.D.) wrote, “celestial bodies are round (istidaaratul-aflaak) - as it is the statement of astronomers and mathematicians (ahlul-hay’ah wal-hisab)..... The [word] falak [in the Arabic language] means that which is round” (Majmu’ulFatawa vol. 6, p. 566-567) The Sufi site http://www.sufi.co.za/modern_science_and_islam.ht m goes even farther, saying “All these the earth and heavenly bodies (all of them are planets) and they are all the time in motion in 1 Where would you go to find the correct meaning of the Qur’an? Zamakhshari? al-Tabari? Baidawi? If you were an early Muslim, you would just go to Mohammed himself! Here what Mohammed explained, according to both Bukhari and al-Tabari. It is not a “scientific miracle” that the sun and moon “falak” because a) The Arabic term for the earth orbiting the sun is not falak but mahrek. b) The word falak did not originate with the Qur’an; it was a foreign loan word. “Narrated Abu Dhar : The Prophet asked me at sunset, ‘Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?’ I replied, ‘Allah and His Apostle know better.’ He said, ‘It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates itself underneath the Throne, and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and them ( a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted,…’” Bukhari vol.4 book 54 ch.4 no.441 p.283 One person contributed the following: “The root [Arabic -- falaka] … from the same primitive Semitic root we get [Akkadian -- pilakku]; [Hebrew -- pelek]; [Arabic -- falkatun], all meaning the whirl of a spindle, and by another line of derivation [Arabic -- falakun]; [Ethiopic -- falaka] for the celestial hemisphere. So the philologers as a rule endeavour to derive [Arabic -- falkun] from this root, imagining it is so named from its rounded shape.” Another translation of the same passage of alBukhari says: “Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, ‘Abzar do you know after setting where does Sun go?’ I replied, ‘I do not know, only Allah’s apostle can say better.’ Then Prophet (SA) replied, ‘After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh (Allah’s throne) and waits for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get any more permission from Allah to rise again and Qeyamot (dooms day) will fall upon earth’”. Also, the word falak was used by Arabs, before the time of Muhammad, to refer to the voyage of the celestial objects in the “sky dome”. The people before, and in Muhammad’s time, believed in the Aristotelian/Ptolemaic model of the universe where the earth was at the center and was surrounded by 7 spherical domes. And celestial bodies were believed to move in these spheres, or spheres themselves were believed to move in a course. The fact that the Qur’an speaks of seven heavens strongly suggest that Muhammad’s “astronomy” fit the Ptolemaic and Aristotelian models, which were believed to be factual at this point in history. al-Tabari vol.1 p.231 says, “I asked the Messenger of God [Mohammed] ‘Where does it [the sun] set?’ He replied: ‘It sets in the heaven and is then raised from heaven to heaven until it is raised to the highest, seventh heaven. Eventually, when it is underneath the Throne, it falls down and prostrates itself, and the angels who are in charge of it prostrate themselves together with it. The sun then says, My Lord, whence do you command me to rise, from where I set or from where I rise?’ He continued. This is (meant by) God’s word: ‘And the sun: It runs to a place where it is to reside (at night)’ where it is held underneath the Throne – ‘That is decreed by One Mighty and Knowing’ by ‘this’ is meant the procedure of the mighty’ Lord in His royal authority, the Lord Who is ‘knowing’ about His creation. He continued. Gabriel brings to the sun a garment of luminosity from the light of the Throne, according to the measure of the hours of the day. It is longer in the summer and shorter in the winter, and of My Conclusion (so far): While the Arabic is vague, these words say nothing ancient people prior to Mohammed did not already say. However, if we assume that Mohammed and his early followers could understand the Qur’an (a pretty safe assumption), and that the scientific view of the Qur’an is fairly consistent, then we have two ways arriving at a reasonable conclusion. First, what did early Muslims say about this, and second, what does the rest of the Qur’an say. What Mohammed and Early Muslims Said About the Sun 2 The Prophet [Mohammed] replied: ‘Ali, they are five stars: Jupiter (al-birjis), Saturn (zuhal), Mercury (utarid), Mars (Bahram), and Venus (al-zuhrah). These five stars rise and run like the sun and the moon and race with them together. All the other stars are suspended from heaven as lamps are from mosques,…” al-Tabari vol.1 p.235-236 intermediate length in the autumn and spring. [spring, fall, and winter fashions!] He continued. The sun puts on that garment, as one of you here puts on his garment. Then, it is set free to roam in the air of heaven until it rises whence it does. … The same course is followed by the moon in its rising … But Gabriel brings it a garment from the light of the Footstool. This is (meant by) God word ‘He made the sun a luminosity and the moon a light.’” “God created an ocean three fasrakhs (18 kilometers) removed from heaven. Waves contained, it stands in the air by the command of God. No drop of it is spilled. All the oceans are motionless, but that ocean flows at the rate of the speed of an arrow. It is set free to move in the air evenly, as if it were a rope stretched out in the area between east and west. The sun, the moon, and the retrograde stars [5 planets] run in its deep swell. This is (meant by) God’s word: ‘Each swims in a sphere.’ ‘The sphere’ is the circulation of the chariot in the deep swell of that ocean.” al-Tabari vol.1 p.235 The sun and moon are signs of Allah. Abu Dawud vol.1 book 2 no.1173 p.304; Sunan Nasa’i vol.2 no.1462,1464 p.272; vol.2 no.1465,1466 p.273; vol.2 no.1475 p.278vol.2 no.1477 p.280; vol.2 no.1481 p.283; vol.2 no.1485-1486 p.286-287; vol.2 no.1488-1489 p.287,289; vol.2 no.1500 p.297; vol.2 no.1502 p.299; vol.2 no.1505 p.300; vol.2 no.1506 p.301 Dhu al-Qarnaiyn [Zul Qarnain] “witnessed the setting of the sun in its resting place into a pool of black and foetid slime.” al-Tabari vol.5 p.173174 (See Sura 18:82-97) Conclusion from early Muslims: The sun literally goes to a resting place at night, and the sun and moon literally “swim” in an ocean of water in the sky. al-Tabari vol.1 p.234 also mentions that the sun sets in a muddy spring. The word “muddy” is hami’ah, meaning mean black clay, but hamiyah is a similar word that can mean hot. (See footnote 442 p.234) What the Rest of the Qur’an Says Note that verse numbers are different in various translations of the Qur’an. These verse numbers and quotes are from Yusuf ‘Ali (revised edition). I corrected the capitalization. “He [Mohammed] continued. When the sun rises, it rises upon its chariot from one of those springs accompanied by 360 angels…. When God wishes to test the sun and the moon, showing His servants a sign and thereby asking them to stop disobeying Him and to start to obey, the sun tumbles from the chariot and falls into the deep of that ocean, which is the sphere. When God wants to increase the significance of the sign and frighten His servants severely, all of the sun falls, and nothing of it remains upon the chariot. That is a total eclipse of the sun, when the day darkens and the stars come out.” al-Tabari vol.1 p.236 Sura 20:53 “He who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out” Sura 50:7 “And the earth – We have spread it out4946, and set thereon mountains…” Yusuf ‘Ali’s footnote 4946 says, “Cf. xiii. 3; and xv. 19 and n.1955. The earth is round, and yet it appears stretched out as a vast expanse, like a carpet kept steady with the weight of the mountains.” So regardless of whether you believe this teaches the flat earth or not, Yusuf ‘Ali says this verse at least says the earth appears as a flat carpet. What Mohammed and Early Muslims Tell Us About the Heavens Sura 67:15 “It is He who as made the earth manageable5571…” Other translations have “level”. 3 Yusuf Ali’s footnote 5571 says, “Zalul is used in ii 71 for an animal trained and tractable: here it is used to qualify the earth, and I have translated ‘manageable’….” cosmology in the Qur’an. More significantly, he traveled to where the sun set, and found that it set in a muddy/murky spring. If you ask astronomers if the sun really sets in a muddy spring, they might laugh at you. Sura 71:15 “‘See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another ‘And made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a glorious lamp?” Even granted that this is language of appearance, there is not hint of teaching of modern astronomy. Conclusion: The Qur’an teaches the following: The earth is flat, spread out like a carpet and pegged flat by mountains The sun has a defined path through the day, then sets in a muddy/murky spring and goes to Allah’s throne. The sun then rises at a specific spot Except for five “retrograde stars” (planets), the stars are hung like lamps. Mohammed taught early Muslims this as a literal truth, not just a metaphor or simile. Sura 71:19 “‘And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out),5718…” Yusuf ‘Ali’s footnote 5718 says, “cf. xx 53. Sura 78:6-7 “Have We [Allah] not made the earth as a wide Expanse5890, and the mountains as pegs?” Yusuf ‘Ali’s footnote 5890 says, See n. 2038 to xvi. 15. Cf. also xiii. 3 and xv. 19. The spacious expanse of the earth may be compared to a carpet, to which the mountains act as pegs….” The Purpose of Stars and Meteors “The lowest heaven has lamps [stars], and ‘We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.’” Sura 67:5 Zul-Karnain in Sura 18 and the Science of Astronomy “The creation of these stars is for three purposes, i.e. as decoration of the sky, as missiles to hit the devils, and as signs to guide travellers. So, if anybody tries to find a different interpretation, he is mistaken and just wastes his efforts...” Bukhari vol.4 book 54 ch.3 before no.421 p.282. Sura 18:85-86 “One (such) way he [Zul-qarnain] followed, until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: near it he found a people: We [Allah] said: ‘O Zulqarnain! (Thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.” “Murky” has also been translated as “muddy” and “black”. “spring of … water” has also been translated as “spring”. M.H. Skahir translates this as “black sea”. Shooting stars are sometimes hurled at devils who try to listen in on heavenly secrets. Sahih Muslim vol.1 book 4 no.902 and footnote 674 p.243. Sura 18:89-90 “Then followed he [Zul-qarnain] (another) way, until when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom we had provided no covering protection against the sun.” Shooting stars are to hit [bad] angels before they spread what they heard. Sometimes the bad angels tell soothsayers before they are hit though. Ibn-iMajah vol.1 book 1 no.194 p.110. Meteors are to attack jinn (genies) Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 24 no.5538 p.1210 Muslim commentators differ on exactly who Zulqarnain (man of two horns) is. Some think Alexander the Great, some think Cyrus of Persia, and some a Yemeni king. It does not matter though. Regardless, Zul-qarnain was able to travel to where the sun actually rose. This supports a flat earth Stars guard against Satan. al-Tabari vol.1 p.223 Mohammed Splitting the Moon in Two 4 “The demand of the pagans to the Prophet to show them a miracle. The Prophet showed them the splitting of the moon. Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Massud: During the lifetime of the Prophet the moon was split into two parts and on that the Prophet said, ‘Bear witness (to this).’” Bukhari vol.4 book 56 ch.26 and vol.4 book 56 ch.26 no.830 p.533. of the solar system at the New Creation: Cf. lxxv. 89.” Nobody else in the world at this time reported the moon split in two. As a side note, the Enclopaedia Britannica vol.13 1972 p.458B has a picture of the Chomsungdae astronomical observatory, near Kyongju Korea, built in the 7th century Silla period. There is no record that they, or anybody else, saw the moon split in two. “Narrated Anas that the Meccan people requested Allah’s Apostle to show them a miracle, and so he showed them the splitting of the moon.” Bukhari vol.4 book 56 ch.26 no.831 p.533. Counter-examples in the Qur’an? “Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas: The moon was split into two parts during the lifetime of the Prophet.” Bukhari vol.4 book 56 ch.26 no.832 p.534. Ignoring the previous verses, let’s discuss other verses in the Qur’an some Muslims believe support modern astronomical theories. In fairness to them, here are the verses they bring up, along with responses. Splitting the moon. Bukhari vol.6 book 60 ch.225 no.290 p.273 and footnote 1 p.273; vol.6 book 60 ch.287 no.387-391 p.365-366; vol.6 book 60 ch.261 no.345,349 p.331; Bukhari vol.6 book 60 ch.265 no.368-370 p.331,336 Sura 7:54 “…He draweth the night as a veil o’er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession:...” Response, day and night following each other is true, but says nothing about science or astronomy that primitive people did not know. Splitting the moon Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 37 no.6721,6724-6730 p.1467-1468 Sura 54:1 says, “The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon was cleft asunder. (Yusuf ‘Ali revised edition). Sura 13:2a and Sura 31:10 both say that Allah raised the heavens without any pillars that you can see”. Response: While not all ancient peoples believed the heavens were held by pillars, this merely says Allah did not have any visible pillars that could be seen. Note that cleft asunder means the mean was split in half, and the verb here is past tense. We have no records of any other people in the world, including close-by Egypt, Syria, or Persia that saw the moon split in two. The Qur’an and hadiths do not say how it got back together either. Sura 13:2b “…He has subjected the sun and the moon! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed” Response: That both the sun and moon have regularity was observable by even primitive people. Yusuf ‘Ali in footnote 5128 says, “Three explanations are given in the Mufradat, and perhaps all three apply here: (1) that the moon once appeared cleft asunder in the valley of Makkah within sight of the Prophet, his Companions, and some Unbelievers; (2) that the prophetic past tense indicates the future, the cleaving asunder of the moon being a Sign of the Judgment approaching; and (3) that the phrase is metaphorical, meaning that the matter has become clear as the moon. That the first was noticed by contemporaries, including Unbelievers, is clear from verse 2. The second is an incident of the disruption Sura 21:30 “Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one Unit of Creation), before we [Allah] clove them asunder?” A few Muslims view this as the Qur’an anticipating the big bang theory. Response: The ancient Egyptians, Aryan Hindus, and others believed the heavens and earth were together before being separated. To merely say the 5 heavens and earth were joined together (implying halves) is more like those ancient mythologies than the big bang theory. But the big bang theory does not even say the earth was cleft from anything. Rather, it says the earth gradually was built up from space dust. be used to prove a modern scientific view in the Qur’an. Sura 25:61-62 “Blessed is He who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a lamp and a moon giving light. And it is he who made the night and the day to follow each other:…” Response: Calling the sun a lamp does nothing to prove the Qur’an had modern scientific views. The day and night following each other is true, but it is something even primitive people all knew. Sura 21:33 “All (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its2695 rounded course. Yusuf Ali’s footnote 2695 is instructive here. It says, “I have indicated, unlike most translators, the metaphor of swimming implied in the original words:…” Malik’s translation says, “all (celestial bodies) move swiftly in an orbit of their own.” Response: The Arabic word was understood as “swim” as Yusuf Ali has correctly translated, as shown by al-Tabari vol.1 p.235; al-Tabari vol.1 p.236. Also the verses speak of the sun and moon, not other celestial bodies, so it is not quite correct to put (celestial bodies) in the translation in parenthesis. The Qur’an does not say anything moves in a path/orbit in the sky except the sun, moon and retrograde stars (planets). Sura 27:88 “…these mountains which you see and think are firmly fixed, will pass away like clouds…” (Malik) One Muslim apologist apparently believes this alludes to the earth’s rotation. Response: The verse before mentions the last trumpet, so the context is the end times, not today. Sura 29:44 says that the creation of the heavens and the earth is a sign for those who believe. Response: The creation of heaven and earth shows God’s majesty according to Psalm 8:1,3,5; Psalm 19:1-6. Mohammed knew of the Psalms (zubur) of David, so there is no news here. Sura 21:104 “The day that We roll up the heavens like a scroll”. Response: It is unclear to me how this supposed to anticipate modern astronomy, but Mohammed’s first wife took him to hear the gospels from a Christian, and the Bible in Revelation 6:14 and in the Old Testament in Isaiah 34:4 mentions that the heavens will be rolled up as a scroll. However, Christians do not generally try to fit modern astronomy into Revelation 6:14. Sura 31:29, Sura 35:13, Sura 36:37, and Sura 39:5 all say that Allah merges night into day and day into night. It also says the sun and moon each run their appointed course. Sura 55:5 also says the sun and moon run their appointed courses. Response: There is nothing to suggest this is not the path of the sun and moon in the sky. These things were known and observed by ancient, primitive people too. Saying a truth that even pagans already believed of course does not prove a book wrong. However, repeating common knowledge in no way proves the Qur’an predicted modern scientific knowledge. Sura 22:65 “…He withholds the sky2847 from falling on the earth except by His leave…” Yusuf ‘Ali’s footnote 2847 says that this word samaa can mean (1) something high, (2) a root, a ceiling, (3) the sky, the canopy of heaven. (4) cloud or rain. He says he understand the last meaning here, though most authorities seem to render it by some such words as “sky”. Response: Thus many authorities the word would be “sky” which is most consistent with a flat earth view. So while we cannot say this verse definitely proves the flat earth view in the Qur’an, due to the vagueness of the Arabic, this verse certainly cannot Sura 51:47,48 “We have build the firmament with might: and We indeed have vast power. And we have spread out the (spacious) earth: how excellently We do spread out!” (Yusuf ‘Ali). Other translations say “like a carpet”. Response: Spreading out the earth, which some see as teaching a flat earth, does nothing to prove the Qur’an taught modern scientific theories. As a nonMuslim, I am willing to admit that this might not be 6 Sura 86:1-3 “By the heaven and by the visitant by night, and what will explain to you what the visitant by night is? It is the star of piercing brightness. (Just as Allah Almighty is taking care of each star in the galaxies, similarly) over each soul there is an appointed guardian angel.” (Malik) Some Muslims claim this teaches that the sun is a star. teaching the falsehood that the earth is flat, but rather be a poetic expression. Muslims have used this to say the Qur’an taught the big bang expansion of the universe. The fact that God spread out the heavens does not specifically mean the big bang theory, and God stretching out the heavens is in the Bible in Isaiah 42:5. However, Christians do not try to use a vague reference like this to prove the anticipated the big bang theory. Response: Note two things: a) the sun is not mentioned here, and b) everything in parenthesis was added in the English translation; it is not in the original Arabic! Sura 55:33 mentions zones of the earth that men and Jinns [genies] cannot pass beyond without authority. Response: Zones of the earth does not teach modern geography, though it sounds a bit like sea monsters or other barriers keep people from traveling to other parts of the earth. Likewise zones of heaven does not mean much, except that both Mohammed and Jewish tradition speak of seven heavens. Yusuf ‘Ali (revised edition) gives a much more accurate translation here. “By the Sky6067 and the Night-Visitant6068 (therein); And what will explain to thee What the Night-Visitant is? – (It is) the Star of piercing brightness; - there is no soul but has a protector over it.6069” Sura 71:15-16 “See ye not how Allah has create the seven heavens one above another, And made the moon a light in the midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) lamp?” It is claimed by some Muslims that the seven layers of the earth’s atmosphere (troposphere, stratosphere, etc.) are the seven heavens. Response: Besides seven heavens being common with Jewish tradition, calling the moon a light and the sun a lamp does not show modern scientific views, though this is not falsehood if it is understood as poetic language. Also, if the seven heavens were the seven layers of the earth’s atmosphere, it would be wrong to say the sun, moon, and stars are in the heavens. Yusuf ‘Ali’s footnote 606 says, “…The ‘Star of piercing brightness’ is understood by some to be the Morning Star, by others to be the planet Saturn, by others again to be Sirius, or the Pleids [Pleiades] or shooting stars. I think it is best to take the ‘Star’ in the collective or generic sense, for stars shine on every night of the year, and their piercing brightness is most noticeable on the darkest night.” Some Interpretations Are Really Out of This World! Here are some other Muslim views recorded in http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/interprt.htm. This site has other good info too. As a side note, though the Bible never mentions seven heavens, various apocryphal traditions mention seven heavens: 2 Enoch 20:1; 20:1 p.134135; Martyrdom and Ascension of Isaiah 7:8; 9:1,6; 10:17; The Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs ch.3.3 p.13. 3 Baruch 11:1 p.675 mentions 5 heavens, though it does not say that is all there are. So even if it were a scientific miracle that Mohammed mentioning seven heavens corresponded to the earth’s atmospheric layers, it would be even a greater miracle that these earlier works mentioned seven heavens too. “Take for instance Muhammad Hanafi al-Banna who discovered allusions to aeroplanes (Sura 17:1), artificial satellites (Sura 41:53), interplanetary travel (Sura 55:33), and the hydrogen bomb (Sura 74:3338) (Jansen 1980:48). Thus, it was not surprising when men like Muhammad Kamil Daww wrote that the miracle of the “scientific” content of the Qur’an was even greater than the miracle of its matchless eloquence. 7 This gave veracity to Muhammad, and hence a correctness to all the statements in the Qur’an. John of Damascus (c.676-749 A.D.) had a very good scientific explanation of eclipses. “The sun and the moon, moreover, suffer eclipse, and this demonstrates the folly of those who worship the creature in place of the Creator, and teaches us how changeable and alterable all things are. … Now the cause of the eclipse of the sun is that the body of the moon is interposed like a partition –wall and casts a shadow, and prevents the light from being shed down on us; and the extent of the eclipse is proportional to the size of the moon’s body that is found to conceal the sun. But do not marvel that the moon’s body is the smaller. For many declare that the sun is many times larger than the earth, and the holy Fathers say that it is equal to the earth: yet often a small cloud, or even a small hill or a wall quite conceals it. The eclipse of the moon, on the other hand, is due to the shadow the earth casts on it when it is fifteen days’ moon and the sun and moon happen to be at the opposite poles of the highest circle, the sun being under the earth and the moon above the earth. For the earth cases a shadow and the sun’s light is prevented from illuminated the moon, and therefore it is then eclipsed.” Exposition of the Orthodox Faith book 2 ch.7 p.25 Today the person best known for popularizing scientific exegesis is the French doctor Maurice Bucaille. In his book, The Bible, The Qur’an and Science, he seeks to expose the unscientific nature of the Bible while simultaneously elevating the status of the Qur’an by using the same criteria.” But Some Muslims Were more Down to Earth It must be mentioned that many Muslims do not hold to the previous interpretations. Some see these verses are simply remarking on easily observed things in the sky. Muhammad said: “Refrain from speaking about me except of what you know. Whoever speaks a lie about me deliberately, may him prepare his place in the hellfire. And whoever interprets Qur’an by his own opinion may him prepare his place in the Hellfire.” Tirmiz EE, Tefsir 1, (2951) (contributed) By about 20 B.C., Chinese writings show they understood the causes of an eclipse.. In 8 B.C. Chinese predicted a solar eclipse the 135-month recurrence period. By A.D. 206 the Chinese improved and could predict solar eclipses by analyzing the Moon's motion. See http://www.museumeclipse.org/about/history.html. And the Chinese were behind the Babylonians and Greeks here. “Nay, We hurl the Truth against Falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, Falsehood doth perish! Ah! Woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).” Sura 21:19 If anyone deliberately attributes a lie to Mohammed, their abode is Hell. Abu Dawud vol.3 ch.1372 book 19 no.3643 p.1036. Also Bukhari vol.2 book 23 ch.33 no.378 p.212-213 The Babylonians discovered an 18-year (actually 6,585 ½ day) cycle, which was called Saros for predicting eclipses. According to the Encyclopaedia Britannica 1956 vol.7 p.913, tables of this go back to the 4th century B.C. To over-simplify a bit, while a solar eclipse occurs somewhere in the world about six times every ten years, a solar eclipse only occurs in one region every 18 years or so. The Greek scientist Thales of Miletus achieved fame by predicting in advance the eclipse of 5/28/585 B.C. according to Herodotus. While the Lydians and Medes saw this as a divine sign of the gods, Thales and the Greeks knew this was a natural phenomena. “...And whoever intentionally ascribes something to me [Mohammed] falsely, he will surely take his place in the (Hell) Fire.” Bukhari vol.8 book 73 ch.109 no.217 p.139-140. A false witness is tantamount to ascribing partners to Allah. Ibn-i-Majah vol.3 book 13 no.2372 p.414 What Could A Christian Know About Eclipses At That Time? 8 We think he knew of the Babylonian system, and there had been an eclipse on 5/18/603 B.C. mentioned previously, he correctly predicted an eclipse, probably using the Babylonian system. Thales measured the apparent diameter of the sun correctly, and defined the Ursa Minor constellation and wrote about using it (and the north star) for navigation. Thales thought the earth was suspended in a sea of water. Anatolius of Cappadocia (270-280 A.D.) in his Book on Arithmetic in Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.6 p.153 mentions “And Thales discovered the eclipse of the sun and its period in the tropics in its constant inequality…. And Anaximenes [died c.570 B.C.] discovered that the moon has her light from the sun, and found out also the way in which she suffers eclipse.” Thales reportedly taught Anaximander, who taught Anaximenes. Thales is called the father of philosophy because he preceded Pythagoras, Plato, Socrates, and all the other philosophers. The earth is a sphere: Pythagoras (c.580/572492/490 B.C.) was a famous philosopher who thought numbers had mystical qualities. He knew you could not see ships over the horizon, and so taught that the earth was a spherical ball. He also figured out that the morning and evening star (Venus) was the same. Pythagoras’ pupil Philolaus (ca.500 B.C.) visualized the earth moving through space as well as rotating. He taught there was a mystical “central fire” and all astronomical objects, including the earth and sun, rotated around it. See http://www.skyscript.co.uk/copernicus.html for more info. Conclusion: While more primitive peoples did not know of the scientific advances of the Greeks, there were at least some philosophers, a thousand years prior to the time of Mohammed, who had an understanding of eclipses that was more scientific than what was in the Qur’an. The moon has ravines and plains: Anaxagoras (born c.500 B.C.) Moon is like earth, with ravines and plains, and shines with reflected light. The sun is red-hot stone on fire, larger than Peloponnesian peninsula. Anaxagoras’ views were not well received; he was put on trial for impiety against the gods. He was sentenced to death, but the sentence was commuted to exile from Athens. What Could A Christian Know About Astronomy At That Time? Just how primitive was people’s astronomical knowledge around Mohammed’s time? John of Damascus (c.676-749 A.D.) lived not long after Mohammed, and quite frankly, we can learn more correct astronomy from him than we can from the Qur’an. Here is what he said. “…some hold that the earth is in the form of a sphere, others that it is in that of a cone. At all events it is much smaller than the heaven, and suspended almost like a point in its midst.” Exposition of the Orthodox Faith book 2 ch.10 p.28-29. Now John of Damascus actually lived a little after the time of Mohammed, so let’s look at the science of astronomy among the Greeks prior to Mohammed. The Greeks had a variety of views, but here are the views that are closest to modern astronomy. Part Geocentric, Part Heliocentric: Herakleides (c.388/380-c.310 B.C.) though that Mercury and Venus orbited around the sun, while the sun and everything else orbited around the earth. He also taught that the earth rotates. Heliocentric (earth orbits the sun): Greeks had a variety of views on astronomy, Aristarchus of Samos (ca.310-230 B.C.) was said the sun went around the earth, according to his pupil Archimedes. Aristarchus practiced astronomy in Alexandria. He is called the Copernicus of ancient astronomy, because he taught that the sun was 20 times farther from the earth than the moon, hence must be much larger. [Actually the sun is about 400 times farther from the earth than the moon.] Prediction of eclipses: Thales of Miletus (c.624c.548/7 B.C.), is called the father of philosophy and founded the Milesian school of philosophy. He is thought to be the teacher of Anaximander (c.611c.547 A.D.), who in turn taught Anaximenes. As 9 But if the earth revolved, it must be moving very fast; yet we do not see things flying around. Thus, because the ancient people had no concept of gravity, Aristarchus’ view fell out of favor in most people’s minds. We have preserved his On the Sizes and Distances of the Sun and the Moon where is said that when the moon is half full, the earth, moon, and sun for a 90 degree triangle. Clement of Alexandria (193-217/220 A.D.) mentions Philolaus in The Stromata book 3 ch.3 p.384. Hippolytus (writing 225/235/6 A.D.) mentions, among other scientists, Aristarchus the Samian (of Samos) and Archimedes in his discussion on astronomy in The Refutation of All Heresies book 4 ch.8 p.28. Later, by the time Claudius Ptolemy published his Syntaxis of Astronomy in 150 A.D., the view of everything revolving around the earth dominated European and Middle eastern thought for 1500 years. See http://physics.gmu.edu/~jevans/astr103/CourseNotes /history_greekGeocentricHeliocentric.html and http://www-history.mcs.standrews.ac.uk/history/HistTopics/Greek_astronomy. html for ore info. By the way, if you looking this up yourself, be aware that Aristarchus of Samothrace, (c.217–c.145 B.C) is a different person. Conclusion: The Greeks, inheriting from Babylonian and Egyptian culture, had some remarkable astronomical insights. Among their differing views, some Greeks taught that the earth is a sphere that rotates and revolves around the sun. Pre-Nicene Christians knew of these views. These views anticipated modern science more than the statements in the Qur’an. Muslims Views and Responses Ocean tides caused by moon and rotation: Another philosopher who held to Aristarchus’ view was Seleucus (150 B.C.). He said the ocean tides were caused by the rotating of the earth and the revolution of the moon. See http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/GreekScience/Students /Kristen/Aristarchus.html for more info. 1. The Qur’an anticipates modern science: The sun and moon are in orbit and rotate along their axis (Sura 21:33; 36:27-40). The Qur’an even teaches the big bang theory (Sura 21:30; Sura 51:47,48). The Arabic word falak means “orbit”. Astronomers tell us that the sun orbits the center of the galaxy every 250 million years or so. The Arabic word yasbahuna (from sabaha) means rotating on its axis. Pre-Nicene Christians were aware of these things: Anatolius of Cappadocia (270-280 A.D.) in his Book on Arithmetic Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.6 p.153 wrote, “And Thales discovered the eclipse of the sun and its period in the tropics in its constant inequality. And Anaximander discovered that the earth is poised in space, and moves round the axis of the universe. And Anaximenes discovered that the moon has her light from the sun, and found out also the way in which she suffers eclipse. And the rest of the mathematicians have also made additions to these discoveries. We may instance the facts-that the fixed stars move round the axis passing through the poles, while the planets remove from each other” 1 Response: Actually this is wishful thinking for two reasons. 1) The words are vague: falak is Arabic means course, progress as well as orbit, and yasbahuna can mean hastening on, though its most direct meaning is swimming. 2) Mohammed told us clearly what is means, and it means the sun and moon traveled over earth, swam/rode in a chariot across the earth’s sky. 3) Early Greeks taught that the sun and moon orbit around the earth (Aristarchus of Samos c.310-230 A.D.) and Seleucus (150 B.C.). Athenagoras (c.177 A.D.) mentions Pythagoras and that Philolaus taught that all things are included in God, showing that God is One and God. A Plea For Christians ch.6 p.131 Again, here are two sources of what Mohammed said. 10 “God created an ocean three fasrakhs (18 kilometers) removed from heaven. Waves contained, it stands in the air by the command of God. No drop of it is spilled. All the oceans are motionless, but that ocean flows at the rate of the speed of an arrow. It is set free to move in the air evenly, as if it were a rope stretched out in the area between east and west. The sun, the moon, and the retrograde stars [5 planets] run in its deep swell. This is (meant by) God’s word: ‘Each swims in a sphere.’ ‘The sphere’ is the circulation of the chariot in the deep swell of that ocean.” al-Tabari vol.1 p.235 4. The sun’s resting place means the ultimate destruction of the sun. Narrated Abu Dhar : The Prophet asked me at sunset, ‘Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?” I replied, “Allah and His Apostle know better.” He said, “It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates itself underneath the Throne, and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and them ( a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted,…” Bukhari vol.4 book 54 ch.4 no.441 p.283. Sahih Muslim vol.1 book 1 ch.73 no.297-300 p.95-96 also has a lot of detail on this conversation with Mohammed and Abu Dharr. 5 Response: This would sound reasonable, except for what Bukhari and al-Tabari wrote that Mohammed said. If Bukhari and al-Tabari were wrong about this, then what criteria is there for saying they were right about anything. 4 Response: A typical person reading this, in any language, would think it refers to a periodic cycle, not ultimate destruction. 5. Language of appearance: The sun, moon, and planets mark a path in the sky. These verses were meant neither to support nor contradict modern science, but were poetic expressions merely saying Allah was behind what people naturally observed. Conclusion Some (but not all) Muslims try to use these verses to prove the scientific accuracy of the Qur’an. Unless you see an error in this discussion, it is not intellectually honest to try to claim this proves the scientific accuracy of the Qur’an. In fact, some of these verses contradict what we know by modern science, unless you understand them to be poetic and the language of appearance. However, Bukhari and al-Tabari show these were understood quite literally. The sun and moon swim in the sky over the earth. 2. The Qur’an mentions the sun’s orbit around the center of our galaxy. 2 Response: The sun does not have an independent orbit in our galaxy. If the Qur’an was attempting to teach modern science, it should have said the sun, moon, earth, and retrograde stars (planets) all orbit the galaxy together. Historically, the first person who said the sun, earth, and everything else rotated around a central fire was Philolaus (ca.500 B.C.). However, the most important thing in the world is not what you know, but Who you know. It is not which theories of men you believe, but whether you follow what the True God has revealed. Every single viewpoint on astronomy up to the nineteenth century has some error in it. Who’s to say that in the future people will not say the same about our scientific views? The only way we can know what is true is by what God has revealed to us. We have trust that God would reveal what we need to know, and that He would preserve the meaning of His revelation. Again, we also know exactly what Mohammed meant, because he told us, as Bukhari vol.4 book 54 ch.4 no.441 p.283 and al-Tabari vol.1 p.235 record. 3. The sun’s resting place means it is shining on the other side of the earth. Again, we also know exactly what Mohammed meant, because he told us, as Bukhari vol.4 book 54 ch.4 no.441 p.283 and al-Tabari vol.1 p.235 record. 11 Bibliography: Translations of the Qur’an http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/interprt.htm 1. Arberry, Arthur J. The Koran Interpreted. Macmillian Publishing Co., Inc. 1955. 2. Dawood, N.J. The Koran. Penguin Books. 19561999. 3. Malik, Farooq-i-Azam. English Translation of the Meaning of AL-QUR’AN : The Guidance for Mankind. 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Islamic University, Al-Medina AlMunawwara AL MAKTABAT AL SALAFIAT AL MADINATO AL MONAWART No date, No copyright. The History of al-Tabari : An Annotated Translation. Ehsan Yar-Shater, General Editor. State University of New York Press 1989-. 12 Appendix – Translations of Sura 36:38-40 outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along In (its own) orbit (According to Law). (Yusuf Ali’s translation of the Qur’an (p.1326-1327) Revised & Edited by The Presidency of Islamic Researches, IFTA. King Fahd Holy Qur-an Printing Complex.) “And the sun runs on to a term appointed for it; that is the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knowing. (39) And (as for) the moon, We have ordained for it stages till it becomes again as an old dry palm branch. (40) Neither is it allowable to the sun that it should overtake the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day; and all float on in a sphere.” M.H. Shakir’s translation (37) And a Sign for them is the Night; We withdraw therefrom the Day, and behold they are plunged into darkness; (38) And the Sun runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him), the exalted in Might, the All-Knowing. (39) And the Moon – We have measured for her mansions13 (to traverse) till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of date-stalk.” (40) It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit17 (according to Law). Footnote 17 says “Circuit, course” Abdullah Yusuf Ali published by MILLAT Book Centre Pickthall’s translation has one verse number lower. “(37) And the sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise. (38) And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shriveled palm-leaf.” (39) It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.” (M.M. Pickthall’s translation) (38) And a Sign for them is the night from which We strip off the day, and lo! They are in darkness. (39) And the sun is moving on the course prescribed for it. That is the decree of the Almighty, the AllKnowing God.” Maulawi Sher Ali’s translation (Ahmadiyya) This differs from the previous (revised) Yusuf Ali in “for a period determined for him:” vs. “unto a resting place, for him:” and “stations” vs. “mansions” “And a sign for them is the night; We strip it of the day and lo, they are in darkness. And the sun – it runs to a fixed resting-place; that is the ordaining of the All-mighty, the All-knowing. And the moon- We have determined it by stations, till it returns like an aged palm-bought. It behooves not the sun to overtake the moon, neither does the night outstrip the day, each swimming in a sky.” A.J. Arberry’s translation (36:37-40) Another sign for them is the night; when We withdraw the daylight from it, and behold they are in darkness. The sun runs its course, this course is pre-estimated for it by the Almighty, the AllKnowing. As for the moon, We have designed phases for it till it again becomes like an old dry palm branch. Neither it is possible for the sun to overtake the moon, nor for the night to outstrip the day; each floats along in its own orbit.” Muhammad Farooq-i-Azam Malik’s translation. “A sign to them also is the night. We withdraw the day from it, and lo! They are plunged in darkness; And the sun hasteneth to her place of rest. This, the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knowing! And as for the moon, We have decreed stations for it, till it change like an old and crooked palm branch. To the sun it is not given to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day; but each in its own sphere doth journey on.” J.M. Rodwell’s translation of the Qur’an (37) And a Sign for them Is the Night: We withdraw Therefrom the Day, and behold They are plunged in darkness; (38) And the Sun Runs unto a resting place, For him: that is The decree of (him) The Exalted in Might, the All-Knowing. (39) And the Moon, - We have measured for her Stations (to traverse) Till she returns Like the old (and withered) Lower part of a date-stalk. (40) It is not permitted To the Sun to catch up The Moon, nor can The Night 13 “The night is another sign for men. From the night We lift the day – and they are plunged in darkness. The sun hastens to its resting-place; its course is laid for it by the Mighty One, the All-Knowing. We have ordained phases for the moon, which daily wanes and in the end appears like a bent old twig. The sun is not allowed to overtake the moon, nor does the night outpace the day. Each in its own orbit swims.” N.J. Dawood’s translation of the Qur’an. http://www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/sura36.html says, “The sun sets into a specific location, according to the design of the Almighty, the Omniscient.” 14