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Jezneel Daniel Canlas Shalom brother francis... Nababasa ko ung mga discussion... Lalo na pagdating sa Godhead... Natutuwa lang ako minsan napapatawa in a way na hindi pinagtatawanan... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/5, 3:02am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/5, 3:02am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ung romee na oneness pentecostal mukang mahirap paliwanagan malalim ang pagkabaon ng doktrinaa nila... Bro Francis 8/5, 4:09am Bro Francis oo tama sis pakinggan nyo sana daily broadcasts ni bro.ferdinand o pakinggan nyo mga uploaded audio files ko sa endtime COGEO SERIES group August 5 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/5, 10:56am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro francis... It's bro ace sa tuwing mgreply at comment it 's me... Bro Francis 8/5, 11:57am Bro Francis naku sorry, pero sana remind me lagi if malimutan ko ulit kc lately having memory lapses. (nagiging ulyanin na). were u able to go to the audio files sa endtime COGEO SERIES? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/5, 1:14pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Wala un bro ... Ako ang nakalimut maglagay ng name ko... Lets see, 4 hrs advanced ang pinas sa abu dhabi... And also im working and if i have free time im studying cause there's a house church here which we are doing in my house.. Bro Francis 8/5, 1:17pm Bro Francis BUKOD SA AUDIO MAGAGAMIT MO RIN MGA TRACTS DITO DOWNLOAD TRACTS AND PHOTOCOPY THEM TO DISTRIBUTE https://www.facebook.com/groups/331889450210931/files/ Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/5, 1:22pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ok bro i will check that out ... Thanks bro i appreciate it... Lordwilling by Feb magbkasyon kmi.. Let's see if our schedule will meet Bro Francis 8/5, 1:42pm Bro Francis PAG NKABAKASYON KAU INVITE KO KAU SA CHURCH FELLOWSHIP. GODBLESS!! Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/5, 1:51pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Lordwilling bro... Thank you... Shalom... August 6 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/6, 5:09am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Shalom bro francis... Just notice something, do you really believe that the right in a Person is, Body , Soul and Spirit? It has been corrected in 1965 in works is faith express... It is Body, Spirit and soul... Please kindly study the qoutes it is long but worth studying.... 205 Now, the outside body has five inlets to it, to contact your earthly home: see, taste, feel, smell, and hear. The inside, which is a spirit, it has five senses: conscience, and love, and so forth. But the inside of that, the soul, has one thing. That's where you live. 206 The Spirit can come out here and anoint you to do certain thing, and you do it, but that don't mean you're saved. Think of it. Caiaphas prophesied. Judas cast out devils. See, the Spirit anointed him. This rain falls on the just and the unjust, the weeds can rejoice with the wheat. But it's what it is at the core. There's where you can, intellectuals, can accept and say, "Oh, sure, that looks good. I believe that." That still don't do it. No, sir. And the spirit can actually make witness of it, and still it isn't so. Because if that soul hasn't come from God, it can make all the impersonations out here, but it cannot be real. You can act healing, you can act like you have. You can act like you receive it. Christians can act like they're Christians, and act and be ever so good at it, but that don't mean they're saved. That's exactly right, see. The Spirit can be there, the real, genuine Spirit. The Holy Spirit can anoint you, that still don't mean you're saved. It's that inside soul that never dies, it's got Eternal Life. It always was Eternal Life. See? It come from God, it goes to God, it's the soul. 207 Now, notice that, it's got to be. Five, f-a-i-t-h, outside; spirit, J-e-s-u-s; on the inside, y-o-u. See? That's how standing here, looking at you, I don't know a one of you. The spirit can anoint me, still I don't know none of you. But when that inside of the inside breaks in, that's God. 208 That's where the outside can reason. You take a man, say, "Well, you know, I—I know I'm not supposed to commit adultery. But, you know, then the spirit tells me I shouldn't commit adultery. But, you see, way down in there is still that thing in there." See, it'll kind of govern around, and better watch it. 209 But when it's directed from the inside, it throws all the rest of it together. That's the guidepost. That's the control tower, the inside of the inside. The soul controls the spirit, the spirit controls the body. 210 So an outside whitewash don't make any difference. Them religious people back there, that Paul called "whited-walls," and so forth, they were (outward) just every way the… a believer, and they had prophesies among them, and everything else but the inside of the inside ("the soul that disbelieveth"). 211 That's the reason I say people can jump up and down, and speak in tongues, people can shout, lay hands on the sick, and heal the sick and so forth, by faith; all these great things there by the Spirit, still be lost. Anointed ones. 65-1126 - Works Is Faith Expressed Rev. William Marrion Branham Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/6, 5:10am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Shalom bro francis... Just notice something, do you really believe that the right order in a Person is, Body , Soul and Spirit? It has been corrected in 1965 in works is faith express... It is Body, Spirit and soul... Please kindly study the qoutes it is long but worth studying.... 205 Now, the outside body has five inlets to it, to contact your earthly home: see, taste, feel, smell, and hear. The inside, which is a spirit, it has five senses: conscience, and love, and so forth. But the inside of that, the soul, has one thing. That's where you live. 206 The Spirit can come out here and anoint you to do certain thing, and you do it, but that don't mean you're saved. Think of it. Caiaphas prophesied. Judas cast out devils. See, the Spirit anointed him. This rain falls on the just and the unjust, the weeds can rejoice with the wheat. But it's what it is at the core. There's where you can, intellectuals, can accept and say, "Oh, sure, that looks good. I believe that." That still don't do it. No, sir. And the spirit can actually make witness of it, and still it isn't so. Because if that soul hasn't come from God, it can make all the impersonations out here, but it cannot be real. You can act healing, you can act like you have. You can act like you receive it. Christians can act like they're Christians, and act and be ever so good at it, but that don't mean they're saved. That's exactly right, see. The Spirit can be there, the real, genuine Spirit. The Holy Spirit can anoint you, that still don't mean you're saved. It's that inside soul that never dies, it's got Eternal Life. It always was Eternal Life. See? It come from God, it goes to God, it's the soul. 207 Now, notice that, it's got to be. Five, f-a-i-t-h, outside; spirit, J-e-s-u-s; on the inside, y-o-u. See? That's how standing here, looking at you, I don't know a one of you. The spirit can anoint me, still I don't know none of you. But when that inside of the inside breaks in, that's God. 208 That's where the outside can reason. You take a man, say, "Well, you know, I—I know I'm not supposed to commit adultery. But, you know, then the spirit tells me I shouldn't commit adultery. But, you see, way down in there is still that thing in there." See, it'll kind of govern around, and better watch it. 209 But when it's directed from the inside, it throws all the rest of it together. That's the guidepost. That's the control tower, the inside of the inside. The soul controls the spirit, the spirit controls the body. 210 So an outside whitewash don't make any difference. Them religious people back there, that Paul called "whited-walls," and so forth, they were (outward) just every way the… a believer, and they had prophesies among them, and everything else but the inside of the inside ("the soul that disbelieveth"). 211 That's the reason I say people can ju mp up and down, and speak in tongues, people can shout, lay hands on the sick, and heal the sick and so forth, by faith; all these great things there by the Spirit, still be lost. Anointed ones. 65-1126 - Works Is Faith Expressed Rev. William Marrion Branham August 6 Bro Francis 8/6, 11:27pm Bro Francis copy pasted ko mula ky bonbontamparong un nabsa mo ata. pero personally regarding drawing nasa loob ang spirit or ang soul, or minsan un body pa, i believe they all 3 x 3 permutations could be drawn that way. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/6, 11:54pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas What do you mean by that bro? Bro Francis 8/6, 11:59pm Bro Francis un nabasa mo cguro ay copy paste ko mula kay bro.bonbon tamparong. size o alin ang nasa loob, hindi lagi isang klaseng order lang 2ndly ung order kung dahil sa pde spirit loob gitna at nasa labas spirit as part of nakuha natin sa magulang na trace back to adam trace back to God like body meron din hybrid part ng serpent din as external sa body un ung anointing nabanggit ni wmb pde mag extend outside ng body human aura or virtue or prana o bio-energy field nageextend outside the body din, john was in the spirit inthe Lords day, and he carried me in sprit to a great and high mountain. ung sa soul ung inner man kaya nasa loob kung nasa gitna dahil consciousness touching both the spirit and the body kung nasa labas external sa katawan, yun ung vision or word of knowledge nangyayari whether beleiver o unbeliever nagkakaroon sya clairvoyance beyond space (other location) and time ung body nasa labas yan ang nakasanayan ng lahat , pero pag nagextend na spirit (anointing) beyond body or ung soul (consciounsneess) un body na ung nasa loob ng circle illustrations. kaya nga sabi ko hindi mali ung both na nabanggit kung nasa loob ay soul or spirit. August 7 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/7, 3:11am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ow.. Ok? Bro i appreciate your knowledge... F you don't mind where did you get that...Did the Prophet said that the spirit is not always in the center or in the inside of the inside or outside... You the your spirit can move and go anywhere or anytime it wants to...did the bible teach that? Or did not the prophet's interpret is simple and true? ... Please brother enlighten me... Thanks... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/7, 3:13am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ow.. Ok? Bro i appreciate your knowledge... F you don't mind where did you get that...Did the Prophet said that the spirit is not always in the center or in the inside of the inside or outside the body?... You mean that your spirit can move and go anywhere or anytime it wants to?...did the bible teach that? Or did not the prophet's interpret is simple and true? ... Please brother enlighten me... Thanks... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/7, 3:14am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ow.. Ok? Bro i appreciate your knowledge... F you don't mind where did you get that...Did the Prophet said that the spirit is not always in the center or in the inside of the inside or outside the body?... You mean that your spirit can move and go anywhere or anytime it wants to?...did the bible teach that? Or did not the prophet's interpretation is so simple and true? ... Please brother enlighten me... Thanks... August 7 Bro Francis 8/7, 6:35am Bro Francis christ mentioned the virtue that came out of him , john wrote he was carried in the spirit to a high mountain, Paul experienced temporarily to be in the 3rd heaven, wmb used the word anointing coming out of you, in your last post August 7 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/7, 1:02pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro those are experiences but what is doctrine behind it? that virtue that came out of christ is not his own spirit... Power or strength that is why he gotten weak... John yes was carried in the spirit in a high mountain but i believe it his spirit and soul that was carried to a high mountain but that don't mean that your spirit can move alone without the soul... Spirit and soul is INSEPERABLE but not that body.... Paul's expirience of 3rd heaven... But not with his body, it is his spirit and soul that was taken to the 3rd heaven... Anointing is different from your spirit... Remember Bro Branham was also caught up in paradise? He can see his own body laying on the bed while he is in the spirit realm? The soul cannot be in the center gaya ng naksanayan natin as the spirit cannot be in the inside of the inside or ung pwedeng ganito or pwedeng ganyan... Kung ating pagaaralang mabuti minsan sa mga terminology tau ngkakaron na problema...gaya ng ominicient knowing all things... If He know all things then why said where are you Adam? and omnipresent being present everywhere if He is then why he said to moses i heard the cry of my people and i have come down.. Now, let us not put a period in it ..sorry brother but that don't seems to be lining up...but i appreciate your time and effort to respond... To me it is body spirit and soul... Not body, soul and spirit... That is what i believe so far... Shalom... August 7 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/7, 4:04pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Notice these verses, Psalm 110:1 KJV The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Matthew 22:43-44 KJV He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, [44] The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? Luke 20:42 KJV And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Acts 2:34 KJV For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Did you notice the continuity of the scripture? Psalm 110 is the origin of this verse , Jesus said in Mattew 22 DAVID IN SPIRIT..It seems like david was caught up in that dimension but he's not Jesus said in luke DAVID HIMSELF... But in Acts 2 we can see the right interpretation of it.. Peter said DAVID IS NOT ASCENDED INTO THE HEAVENS (plural) BUT SAITH IN HIMSELF... i don't know to you brother but for me IT WAS BY VISION... Being in the spirit can also be interpreted as VISION and NOT ALWAYS LITERAL ... WHY? as long as you still leaving in this flesh, your BODY/FLESH IS NOT ALLOWED TO GET IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD but your spirit and soul can...why? Not until our Body will be Change.. So those example that you gave me... Paul John Bro Branham including David is by means of VISIONS .. Book of Revelation is a book of Vision and Symbols... God bless you.. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8/7, 4:19pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas I want but to brother it is a literal that he even saw his body laying on the bed it was not a vision he was caught in that dimension I want add something but to brother branham it was a literal that he even saw his body laying on the bed it was not a vision or dream he was caught in that dimension So we need to determine when it is a vision and when it is a translation or being in the spirit August 12 Bro Francis 8/12, 3:18am Bro Francis pakipost english sharing sa PROGRESSIVE REVELATION MINISTRY na group August 15 Bro Francis 8/15, 8:34pm Bro Francis gud pm, pakinggan nyo po sana broadcast bukas, bale 2am cguro sa time ninyo. ung paltalk nasa wall nyo po September 25 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 1:55pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Shalom bro... musta na? Bro Francis 9/25, 1:55pm Bro Francis shalom ok lang, kayo po? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 1:56pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Salamat sa PANGINOON... mabuti bro by God's Grace nagkakasharing kami ni Brother Ferds Bro Francis 9/25, 1:57pm Bro Francis ah ok, ano ano mga topics? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 1:57pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas twice na kmi nagkaskype Godhead Bro Francis 9/25, 1:57pm Bro Francis kumusta naman ung sharing nyo? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 1:58pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas maganda at interesting anong mga project nyo ngaun Bro Francis 9/25, 1:58pm Bro Francis gusto ko sana gumawa ng 24hours broadcast sa paltalk at sa radioloyalty Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 1:59pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas ah ok Bro Francis 9/25, 1:59pm Bro Francis sabi ko nga kay bro.menan iclone nya ung radioloyalty software nilagay sa computer nya ng isang broadcaster station Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 1:59pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas panong iclone? gagayahin nya Bro Francis 9/25, 2:00pm Bro Francis magkaron sa iba pa computer ung pmbroadcast na software oo, para pwede relyebo ung 2, kaso need pa ng isa pang computer Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 2:01pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas kayo ba author ng radioloyalty? Bro Francis 9/25, 2:01pm Bro Francis mag aask ako ibang kapatiran may computer kung pde kasama sila sa shift hindi , nilagay lang dun ng isang radio station owner pero kung hindi radioloyalty, paltalk muna plano ko, kelangan coordinate with others na may computer internet tuturuan pa kasi sila paano magsound at halili sa shift Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 2:03pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas ah maganda siguro bro ipagpaalam nyo muna kung ok lang sa author baka matulungan pa kayo at bigyan kayo ng duplicate copy ng software Bro Francis 9/25, 2:04pm Bro Francis ung naglagay nun pabago bago, maiiba ang call station number pag naglagay pa sya ulit Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 2:04pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas ah Bro Francis 9/25, 2:04pm Bro Francis pero paltalk sa loob loob ko mas maganda Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 2:05pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas kayo author nun di ba? na try ko once mas ok din un Bro Francis 9/25, 2:05pm Bro Francis paltalk? hindi parang messenger un Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 2:05pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas atleast un ipeplay lang sya ay! paltalk ba ung napakinggan ko di yata iba yata un Bro Francis 9/25, 2:07pm Bro Francis try u pakinggan bigay ko sau ung link at schedule Bro Francis 9/25, 2:07pm Bro Francis INVITE LISTENERS TO THE DAILY ENGLISH BIBLE BROADCAST http://player.radioloyalty.com/station/9401.html 7-8am 2-3pm 7-8pm. HK,TPE,MNL Time 7-8pm 2-3am 7-8am US eastern DST 6-7am 1-2am 6-7pm. US Eastern Time AFTER THAT FOLLOWS THE PALTALK BROADCAST http://www.paltalk.com/.../142.../DisplayGroupDetails.wmt... DOWNLOAD TRACTS AND PHOTOCOPY THEM TO DISTRIBUTE https://www.facebook.com/groups/331889450210931/files/ OTHER VIDEO SITES BESIDES FACEBOOK: www.youtube.com/endtimebroadcaster DAILY BROADCAST \\ player.radioloyalty.com I am listening to 22 Jan 2012 Restoration & Mysteries by on DAILY BROADCAST \\ Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 2:07pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas anong topic nyo dun Bro Francis 9/25, 2:08pm Bro Francis marami, from basic to advanced 7ca, 7seals, 70wks, wise & foolish, ezk.47 rivers of eden restored , messianic name etc Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 2:08pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas ah ok Bro Francis 9/25, 2:10pm Bro Francis ay teka dapat ngayon meron, 2pm, pkcheck click ung radioloyalty link kung meron Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/25, 2:10pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas kayo pla ung nagrecord nung last aniv jan nung nagpreach si Ptr Cernan ng DOCTRINAL IDOLATRY na nasa youtube Bro Francis 9/25, 2:12pm Bro Francis mabagal net ko now Tuesday Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 12:03am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Shalom brother... Musta? Bro Francis 9/30, 12:27am Bro Francis hello brother Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 12:28am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Still up? Bro Francis 9/30, 12:28am Bro Francis yes nkabukas kna tracts files sa progressive ministry fb group? bgay ko ung link Bro Francis 9/30, 12:32am Bro Francis DOWNLOAD TRACTS AND PHOTOCOPY THEM TO DISTRIBUTE https://www.facebook.com/groups/331889450210931/files/ Progressive Revelation Ministry This group is open to all believers that Open-Minded Christian, and those who wants to seek GOD's progressive revelation in this age. This group is open to all whether you are Minister or not, whether... 1,014 members Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 12:33am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ok lng bro, kaya lng ang totoo hindi ko nabubuksan un gawa ng may work at ung difference ng time, im also stuying the bible and the message... I got my own study din.... Bro Francis 9/30, 1:00am Bro Francis pls share your studies in progressive ministry group pkpost, tnx Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:01am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Share ko na lng sau bro... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:01am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro Francis 9/30, 1:02am Bro Francis pwede rin, pero mahirap dito sa chat mabasa ko, sobra labo ng mata ko dun sa group marami makikinabang Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:03am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Pag nauwi na lng kmi next year feb... Kung loobin ni LORD meet tau Wag mo sana ko mamisinterpret ha, i don't feel to post it there... Nakikita ko ung mga attitude ng iba dun and it doesn't look healthy especially sa mga mura pa spiritually.. Hope you understand Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:06am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:06am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Minsan parang mas marami ang magugulo... Alam mo un? Bro Francis 9/30, 1:07am Bro Francis ah sa berean people un, iba gumawa ng group kaya d namin macontrol ung prog.min english required ko kaya d maxado dun ung prog.min sarili gawa ng kapatiran kaya d ako nakabasa ng mga mura doon Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:08am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Kaso natutuntun na rin nila ung ibang group sabi ko nga k bro ferds... try filter those people kung magjoin man sila... And besides you have the right to do it Bro Francis 9/30, 1:08am Bro Francis ung mga oneness doon si jordz genteroy nabasahan ko ng maanghang salita sa ibang tao Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:09am Jezneel Daniel Canlas What i mean mura spiritually... Bata pa sa pananampalataya Bro Francis 9/30, 1:09am Bro Francis they have to befave if they post in prog.min. controlado namin ni bro.menan un i did not mean lietral mura kundi mga degrading words to others, parang eli soriano na style Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:10am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Oo nga... Bro Francis 9/30, 1:13am Bro Francis ung gumawa ng group na berean people parang unreachable sa ngayon. ineevangelize ko noon un, kaso nanghina cguro ngayon at d makontak Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 1:44am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Napakinggan ko ung min meeting sa mambugan 9.27.14 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 2:17am Jezneel Daniel Canlas If you don't mind brother i want to conment in your comment that you say "hindi end of revelations kay bro branham... Bro Francis, we need to be careful when we say hindi end of Revelations kay Bro. Branham, first of all, there are things that we need to understand what Revelation that is to be revealed in our days... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 2:24am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Deuteronomy 29:29 KJV [29] The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law. - God sovereign grace is that He will reveal His secret to whomsoever He will to receive it... And that word whomsoever is not the way we think whomsoever is? That is to say not to anyone, not to me and not to you. And not even to the five folds it is not the way we think what it means, - the bible said in Amos 3:7 KJV [7] Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. - God cannot break His own Word, we will never know nothing if God did not raised up a prophet, bro branham, on the scene... God cannot by pass his prophet Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 2:26am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Numbers 12:6 KJV [6] And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. what God gaves us is THE UNDERSTANDING of what He said through the mouth of His prophet, AND BY UNDERSTANDING, IT BECAME A REVELATION TO US AND YET IT WILL NEVER BE REVELATION ASIDE THE PROPHET REVELATION... Remember , what we got is THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPHETS REVELATION, WE CAN NEVER GET A REVELATION BEYOND WHAT THE PROPEHT GOT, otherwise, God will break His own word, you believe that brother? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 2:37am Jezneel Daniel Canlas As you emphasized in the meeting "it is the continuation" so then that would not be Revelation beyond what is revealed today through Bro. Branham... Progressive Revelation does not mean God revealed to us something that He did not reveal to His Prophet, the Progression that we have is the Understanding of The Revelation, nothing else... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 2:41am Jezneel Daniel Canlas what God gave to Bro. Branham is the Whole Meat, and OUR JOB IS TO SLICE IT, GRIND IT AND FEED IT TO THE PEOPLE...IF WE ANYTHING IT IS BY GOD'S SOVERIEGN GRACE THAT HE ALLOWS OUR MIND TO BE OPEN-UP, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE REASON TO REJOICE.... SHALOM... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 2:46am Jezneel Daniel Canlas CORRECTION: to whomsoever He will to REVEAL it... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 2:54am Jezneel Daniel Canlas That is why we MUST study the Message of the Hour, not intelectually. "...He is not to be known intellectually. He is known Spiritually; by Spiritual revelation. An Exposition Of The Seven Church Ages (Chapter 1 - The Revelation Of Jesus Christ) Rev. William Marrion Branham Colossians 1:9-10 KJV [9] For this cause we also, since the day we heard it , do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; [10] That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 2:55am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Pasensya na sa mahabang comment sana nakaenlighten.. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 3:01am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bago ko makalimutan, pakiusap bro wag na sana mairepost ung comment ko sau sa forum, i personally addressed it to you as you would notice...thanks Tuesday Bro Francis 9/30, 12:04pm Bro Francis Thanks for the comment. Please read ung article ko doon s links ng tracts INFALLIBILITY OF BRO.BRANHAM PARTS 1,2 & 3, collection of quotes ko na hindi sya pabor na sya lang ang binigyan ng kapahayagan. namumulot din sya sa iba. Nirerecognize din nya pinahayagan din ang iba. It does diminish his prophethood. Ang style ng mga denom INK LDS Qibuloy EliSoriano ay sila ang dadaluyan LAMANG. Pero hindi ganun sa ating prophet. So pakibasa na lang muna ung naipon kong quotes doon. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 12:51pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Kaya nga po maging maingat tau sa words natin brother even to myself, hindi napupulot anng Revelation brother... Now, im not arguing brother... Kapag pinupulot lang ang Revelation then thaat is not Revelation, oo nirerecognize nya pero the fulness of The Revelation was given to him by The Mighty Angel, i hope clear ung sinabi ko, what God has given is the understanding of the Revelation... God cannit teach us directly brother, malinaw namn ung scripture di po ba? Bro Francis 9/30, 12:59pm Bro Francis KULANG TYPE KO, IT DOES NOT DIMINISH HIS PROPHETHOOD ANG IBIG KO SABIHIN the way God gives revelation ay hindi laging direct from heaven , gingamit din nya ang ibang tao na mamulot sa isa't isa. Ganun din sa prophet. Meron sya pinulot na mga foundation sa iba at meron din sya tinanggap pa na dagdag liwanag sa dati nya natutunan. Concepto nga ng mga nicolaitan churches bawal mamulot sa iba, kelangan direct from God lang. Doon hindi sila makukumpleto sa revelation kasi may bias na pagdating sa patas na kumpara at pagtanggap Bro Francis 9/30, 1:09pm Bro Francis ang tinuro ng prophet hindi lang sya ang pagkukunan, bilang kapatiran mag cocontribute bawat isa. Ang d nya agree ay collective ung Mal.4:5-6, sabi nya isang tao lang un, pero di sya tutol sa collective sa mga ibang paliwanag nya nirerecognize din nya ginamit ng Dios ang ibang mga tao. Un ang isang pananaw na pagke berean na foundation sa pananampalataya. Mas narecognize ng may berean spirit ung tunay na pagkagamit sa kanya ng Dios kesa sa mga iba parang nagtatayo na ng ism hawig sa denominasyon Tuesday Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9/30, 7:38pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Well, what about amos 3:7? Un ba ay pagpulot, tingin ko brother pulot is not the right word when it comes to Revelation , ang "napupulot" ay impormasyon, but when it comes to THE REVELATION OF GOD, hindi ka pwedeng mamulot sa iba... Ang Diyos mismo anng magbibigay sa propeta at hihimayin ng five fold... Kaya sabi ko hindi pinupulot ang Revelation...i Cannot imagine to feed the flocks of God with something that ive picked up from somewhere? If we think we got better Revelation than that of the prophet then that is not of God... Look at the scripture brother that i gave you... God cannot speak to you and me directly... He use his prophet... Revelation is far more than we realize... Tuesday Bro Francis 9/30, 11:23pm Bro Francis It comes from God pero hindi un limited how he reveals it to his prophets. Bro.branham learned revelation of God from his predecessors too. So direct revelation whether by audible voice or word of knowledge are just one the ways God reveals to his prophets Bro Francis 9/30, 11:27pm Bro Francis If you limit how God would reveal it only to the direct audible, visual or word of knowledge, then same na un sa traditional pentecostal churches understanding. God uses different ways, including other people in his avenue for his children to receive revelation. Sabi ni Daniel he understood from writings about the 70yrs sabbatical utang of israel etc. Bro Francis 9/30, 11:27pm Bro Francis Amos 3:7 does not limit how God would reveal , Heb.1:1 various ways Wednesday Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 3:57am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Let me say this Brother you don't seems to understand my point what i have said has nothing to do with the limitation of God in revealing things... I am talking about the order of God brother, can't you see it? Amos 3:7 is God's order... God is The God of order, He is not the author of confusion... Shalom... Bro Francis 10/1, 4:39am Bro Francis I hope you understand what i said Amos 3:7 coincides with Heb.1:1 God can reveal in divers manners, not just direct word of knowledge or audible voice or trance vision. If bro.branham can learn from others too, it is one of God's way of revealing to him. Example: the 7church ages are already revealed to Larkins and was instrumental to bro.branham since he acknowledged studying from him also. Bro Francis 10/1, 4:47am Bro Francis Pls dont get me wrong, i am not against Amos 3:7. to his servants the prophets. Wednesday Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 11:01am I just recognize the different ways God can reveal Jezneel Daniel Canlas Un nga bro sinasabi ko God cannot reveal anything to the Five fold directly... Canno I cannot say that i have a further revelation than the prophet of this age, what i have is The Further Understanding of what has been said BY THE PROPHET OF THIS AGE... Mal.4:5-6 , Rev. 10:1, Rev. 3:14 and Luke 17:30 was fulfilled in One Man, William Branham. By God's Soverign grace , He open my eyes to see it.. Bro Francis 10/1, 12:20pm Bro Francis brother, the word understanding and revelation are for all beleivers whether he be a star messenger or a 5 fold minister Eph.1:17 paul prayed for all beleivers to receive revelation though he himself also receives revelation. That means it is the Holy Ghost that leads us and it is also the Holy Ghost that used the prophet for us and each other Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 12:47pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Tama bro ung sinabi mo... That is why even paul said even an angel from heaven fron another thing than that was preached to you let him be acoursed. Preachers in that day will not preach anything outside of paul's teaching, i don't mean just say what paul say preach what paul preach... Try qoute the 18th verse Ephesians 1:17-18 KJV That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: [18] The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,... That don't that any man in that will have their own REVELATION than that of Paul, he said that the eyes of your understanding maybe enlightened... There's a difference between Revelation and understanding... It cannot be and will never be that my Revelation is further than The Revelation of Paul as of the Prophet... What God gave me and yoy is the understanding of what the prophet has preached... Agree? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 12:48pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sensya na bro sa mga putol na words try catch it... Bro Francis 10/1, 12:55pm Bro Francis i agree we receive understanding and it also called revelation. that is what is clear in Eph.1:17, we receive understanding from the servants of God, and it is also revelation from God to us even if he uses other instruments Bro Francis 10/1, 1:01pm Bro Francis ung other gospel na tukoy ni paul ay ung kumakalaban sa revelation ni paul. pero ung hindi naman kumakalaban sabi nga ni kristo he that is not against us is for us . sbi ng prophet there will be other ministries and they will be used by God, kahit nga ibang mga nicolaitan ministers will be used by sa msg nya na ANOINTED ONES AT THE ENDTIME. ang paglakad sa truth ay hindi kung cno lang ang spoonfeed pakikinggan, kundi ung believer naisasala nya lahat ng preachers 1Jn.4:1, Rev.2:2, prove all things 1Thes.5:21 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 1:26pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Only then it becomes a Revelation BUT not a further Revelation that that of the Prophet that is why we need to watch the words and termonologies that we use brother.. The Prophey says you cannot have faith without understanding... To have faith you must know what you are doing... And Faith is a Revelation.. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 1:28pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas I hope you got my point now... We cannot say that hindi na end of Revelation k bro branham lalabas taung may sariling Mensahe... Gaya ng mga parnelites , thunders at iba pa... Kaya uulanin tau ng mga tanong... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 1:38pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas The Mystery of God has finished in the ministry of Bro Branham. and it is our job to chop It up and feed the people of God with Spiritual food in due season... Amen Wednesday Bro Francis 10/1, 5:47pm Bro Francis There are topics na dpa clear kay bro.branham, like may tao ba sa millenium, may ipapanganak pa ba doon, meron din sya mga banggit na pagkatapos nya may darating pa na ibang mensahero higit sa kanya. Dont get me wrong na may ibang start messenger, kundi ang unawa ko dito ay ministry nya to activate the 5 fold ministry to receive revelation din to feed the flock of God. Yes natutunan sa kanya pero meron pang ibang detalye na hindi na nya natalakay ang marereveal pa. Pls read owen jorgensens opening of the 7th seal, marami sya quotes from the prophet na may nareveal na at may irereveal pa. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 6:08pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas oo tama bro... May mga ilan na hindi nya brineakdown o tinalakay, that is why there is a five fold to them things down to the people but that don't mean hindi natapos sa kanya, first of all, the purpose that God placed bro branham on the scene is to reveal God, Godhead, and principles and laws and concepts of God in the bible.. Thats the main purpose, other things is just a minor thing, Hindi nya natalakay because it is not his job to do iy that is why you and i are here to study it carefully, and rightly divide it... And point ko lang bro sa statement mo is we cannot say that we have "FURTHER REVELATION" than that of Bro Branam, we can't if we have something it must be lined up with the word and the message... And we must be careful to say that dahil papaano kung tanungin kita in the light of the Godhead, ( before that, bro wag mo sana ko ma misinterpret sa way ko magsalita ha?) I appreciate your time, im enjoying it lets keep a listening heart,ok?) Now, who is Jesus that paul met in the road to Damascus? Is it the father or the son? And there is where our discussion begin... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 6:08pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 6:11pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Whose name were you baptize in the Name of the FATHER here.... or in the SON? Im not talking about trinity Bro Francis 10/1, 7:35pm Bro Francis Name of Father or Son? they both have the same name because one inherited it from the other. In my understanding JESUS is jehovah saviour, hidden name of God that he gave to his Son as an inheritance (Heb.1:4, Phil.2:9, etc) so that the Son would reveal the complete name of the Father to the Jews (who were revealed half only of the name) Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:38pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas So to whom you were baptize in? In the Father or in the Son? Yes they have the same name but who is in your heart when you baptized? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:40pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:40pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Who is Jesus that Paul met down the road to Damascus? Bro Francis 10/1, 7:40pm Bro Francis name of them both Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:41pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas No... It could not.. Yes the same but we musta identify them... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:41pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:41pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:42pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Good question, huh? Tanong ko rin yan k bro. Ferds Bro Francis 10/1, 7:45pm Bro Francis there are scriptures that point to the father, there are scriptures that point to the son, there are scriptures that could apply to any of them both Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:46pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sabi ko nga k bro ferds, the purpose that God reveal to us the mystery of the Father and the Son, is to destroy the oneness antiques sa puso natin Bro when it comes to Revelation hindi pwedeng ganito pwedeng ganun, we must be exact.. Ok i will express mine, it is the Father that paul met in the road to damascus, it was the Father's name i am baptized in and my people... I can prove it to you if you don't mind but not in these platform... Mag skype kami bukas ni bro ferds you can join us if you want to Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 7:59pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Anyway,subject to study yan bro... Bro Francis 10/1, 8:00pm Bro Francis doon sa damascus it is example they speak as one. the proof that the son is there is that paul was persecuting him and paul was asking who he is. If it would only be the Father God only paul shouldn't be asking who he is, and he would not have replied he is being persecuted by him (vicariously of cours thru the christians) Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 8:03pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Can you show me qoutes bro and bible, That they speak as one? Remember, the hint is paul was struck by LIGHT , NOT glorified body, anyway, that is a oneness idea bro for info... Look at this scripture: Who is the one that dwell in the light? 1 Timothy 6:16 KJV Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. Bro Francis 10/1, 8:07pm Bro Francis before i thought it was the son, now i understood it is the Father back to paul in damascus, if it was the Father he was talking to then he would not ask who he is. and Christ said if ye have done it to the least of his brethrens ye have done it to me - persecution of christians. So that applies to the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 8:10pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Psalm 104:1-2 KJV Bless the Lord , O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. [2] Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain: Bro Francis 10/1, 8:14pm Bro Francis That verse applies to God the Father Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 8:51pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Which one? Which verse? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 8:59pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Acts 9:3 KJV And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: Acts 9:4-5 KJV And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? [5] And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/1, 9:08pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Today Bro Francis 7:55am Bro Francis the psalms quote refers to God the Father. Matt.25:40,45). the Acts 9 quote refers to the Son. (persecuted vicariously Bro Francis 8:01am Bro Francis If Paul was talking to God, why would he ask who he is? So paul had an encounter with the Son of God John14:6,17,21,23 Acts2:33, 1Tim.2:5, John5:22, Rom.8:26, Gal.4:6, John17:21-23 Today Jezneel Daniel Canlas 11:24am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Would that be enough to prove that that is the Son, by the question? Or we should in the pattern? Did Paul saw the glorified son? Is the glorified son that appeared to Him or the Light? Is the question can disprove the pattern in the bible? Would that be enough to prove that that is the Son, by the question? Or we should see it in the pattern? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 11:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas 173 Then that was Christ, the Logos, the Morning Star, the Alpha, Omega. He came to the earth. He was seen many times. And—and in what we would call, I guess, a theophany. That was back in the early testament where they seen This in form of man. But He was made flesh and dwelt among us, and the fulness of God dwelt in Him. All right. Then He said, "A little while and the world won't see Me no more. Yet you'll see Me for I'll be with you…" Is that right? "to the end of the world. I came from…" What? "God; I go to God." Is that right? Then He came from (What?) the Pillar of Fire. Is that right? Then He returned to (What?) Pillar of Fire. When Paul was on his road down to Damascus that Pillar of Fire met him and struck him blind. Is that right? And He said "Saul, Saul, why persecuteth thou Me?" He said, "Lord…" If you notice, that capital L means "Elohim." "Lord, Who are You?" He said, "I am Jesus." The Pillar of Fire. And here He is in the last days just before His visible appearance, sending forth His Spirit so dominant and so real until they taken a picture of It. 59-0628E - Questions And Answers Rev. William Marrion Branham Bro Francis 11:59am Bro Francis If we understand the becoming one of the Fahter and Son in Spirit and the Son inheriting allthings from the Father, then we can understand how that God's pillar of fire can also be manifested by the Son. One example in zech14 his feet shall stand in the Mount of Olives but it is referred to as LORD (Jehovah God) that is why the oneness misunderstood how that God can manifest himself through the Son = become his permanent theophany. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 12:07pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas The only time that God become one in the sense that the fullness of the Godhead bodily dwells in the Son was 2000 years ago if we can let our thinking go then will pattern right, what is the pattern? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 12:11pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Para sa mas madali... Common sense to take it dispensationally? What is God's dispensation now? Matthew 28:19 john 14:16... Did God promise to send His SON, the man again? He will in the rapture not in the time Paul, otherwise, we'll break the order, and the pattern... Always that Jesus the man is sitting in the right hand God He will not come back until the restitution of all things Jezneel Daniel Canlas 12:16pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas I mean always remember... Now , when Jesus sais we will make our abode in thee, right? Now the bible must become a new book... That is not to take the way we think it must be in the way God think... Bro Branham said , it is not the Word that quickens But the Spirit that quickens the Word... I john talks about the Father and the Son, Now, we cannot tale any scripture the way it is written we must understand that God works in principles, laws and concept... The law is THE OF REPRESENTATION... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 12:17pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas I understand the oneness of God in the Son, but here Paul met the Pillar of Fire Not a glorified Body? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 12:21pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas The dispensation of the Sonship of God is when God sent His only begotten Son... The dispensation of God in this last days is the dispensation of the Holy Spirit, the Light, the Logos, thr Pillar of Fire, God himself, and i'm going to say sonething that might shock you, which is also called the Son of God, but not the Son of God on thr throne, would you like me to prove it? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 12:28pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Brother the Son is not the permanent theophany of God, if you say permanent, it means that God never leave the The Body of the Son? What about thr mystery of indwelling? What about the angelic theophany of God? Is He in them all at the same time? Today Bro Francis 5:08pm Bro Francis the indwelling is the beginning of the permanent theophany of God in the Son. In times past visions of the Son of God was just a prefiguration of future coming son. It is a temporary Christophany. Other manifestations like Theophanies are temporary. prefiguring also the coming Son. Direct Theophanies (God speaking in the 1st person) portend the deity of the Son that he will inherit from the Father after the indwelling. Christophanies portend the humanity of the Son his own inherent being as bridegroom, Lamb, High Priest, mediator, submitting obeying praying to God. Bro Francis 5:08pm Bro Francis When i said permanent it didn;t mean from the start he was already indwelt. In the beginning he was the Logos Plan of God. But in the New Testament become the mouthpiece of God Heb.1:1-2 Bro Francis 5:10pm Bro Francis Being the New Testament Theophany of God, he is not just a glorified body, he is also the Spirit that indwells convicts a believer in the New Testament. If you have read the verses I gave, he is coming back as the Holy Ghost, the answer to this mystery is the becoming one with God mystery of Godliness. This also answers why he can do things normal persons could not do, because of God working thru him, even after ascension - All power is given unto me.. Bro Francis 5:12pm Bro Francis He said the Father will never leave him, so when his spirit united with the spirit of God departed the body of flesh in the cross and went to preach to the spirits in prison in the center of the earth, the Father did not leave him, and he could not lead captivity captive if he were on his own - John 5:19 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:44pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Im amazed brother in the terminologies that you are using... Did the prophet taught that can you show me scripture for that? So i can study also... If we say God did not leave the Son then why did bro branham said in the sermon the Paradox, the Spirit left Him in Gethsemani? And why did Jesus cried out My God, My God why hast Thou forsaken me? And if we think that it is the Son that Paul met in the road to damascus, then it will break the scriptures, and the order of thee dispensation of God, did God promised to send His Son again? Look at this who is Jesus that stephen saw before he died? And whose Jesus that blind the eyes of paul? Bro Francis 5:48pm Bro Francis there is what the endtime churches call anointing, as contrasted to indwelling. i will use the word outdwelling to show further the difference Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:48pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Thats oneness idea brother that the Son will come in the Spirit form. Yes bro but i hope you will not be caught up on our own explanation... Bro Francis 5:50pm Bro Francis outdwelling presence is present in the old testament , present in christ protecting him from harm during his lifetime here, and it is this outdwelling presence of protection that departed from him during his prayer at gethsemane, that is why he prayed with such fear and anxiety that he sweated like drops of blood Bro Francis 5:50pm Bro Francis the oneness understanding is that the son does not have his own human spirit the son is just the body where God dwelt in. so unwarily, when u said the son was just the glorified body, that is more leaning on the oneness extreme oneness that is Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:51pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas No Brother... If you say he is just a body that is the oneness explanation Bro Francis 5:52pm Bro Francis The extreme onenesses reject the idea that the Son has his own spirit his own soul praying to God, and the rest of the majority of the message beleivers too Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:53pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Maybe because we don't to look at what other is saying and study it carefully, mahirapan taung tumanggap ng correction which us love Bro Francis 5:53pm Bro Francis they believe it is still God acting like a Son when he prays , they could not comprehend the Son of God has his own human soul and spirit like Adam had Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:54pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas I know that brother....anyway, mas maganda siguro bro bigyan mo ko ng pagkakataon magprove ng point ko Bro Francis 5:54pm Bro Francis I did not misrepresent them, majority of oneness pentecostals and endtime message believers do not believe teh Son has his own human spirit and soul talking praying to God. To them it was all God all along just acting out that part Binabasa ko naman sa abot ko ung sinabi mo, sorry if meron misunderstanding, pero i still try my best to clarify marest ito magreset computer Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:56pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas But im not, i don't believe that Jesus could be His own Father... Kaya ang sabi ko kanina when the Spirit left Him in Gethsemane then what spirit does he commend to the Father... Bro Francis 5:57pm Bro Francis sabi ko outdwelling iba un sa indwelling ung indwelling kasabay ng spirit ng anak umalis sa katawan sa calvary Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:57pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ganito na lng skype na lng tau, present the way you understand that and i will present mine and have diacussion let us Bro Francis 5:58pm Bro Francis ung gethsemane spirit of God outdwelling protection nya kaya d sya mapatay agad sa 3-1/2 yrs Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:58pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sounds good? Wow.... Bro Francis 5:58pm Bro Francis sinubukan ko na skype dito nagkakadperensya, pag aaralan ko pa sa future dpa ngayon Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:59pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas No comment for now... Im going to do some husband chores.. Shalom... Today Jezneel Daniel Canlas 8:59pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas The oneness don't believe that that He is a glorified body, but the Father was in the LOGOS and the Son is in the glorified who is sitting at the right Hand of God... Psalm 110 the LORD(Father) said unto my Lord sit down on my right hand,until i make thy foes thy footstool... Now my point is that there are some occasion that the invisible God was not in the Son. Brother if we still believe that the Jesus that paul met is the Son. Then we are gleaning in the glare of another age... The Son of God was to reveal the Father in the Sonship dispensation of God that is the reason why He sent His Son to reveal Himself. Sabi sa acts the heaven must retain the Son UNTIL the restoration of all things...it is the Father that doing the work of restoration... The Son is in heaven and if the Son will come down in the time of damascus then that would be anti-christ, anti-word because that is out of order of the word... God is the God of order... Here is another one... This days is NOT the dispensation of the Son this is the dispensation of God Himself...and wag nating sabihin that was the Son in the Spirit form that would be rediculous... There is no bible in that even the message did not say that... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:02pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas What about The Lord shall descend sino ung nagdescend at paano sya nagdescend? What about The Lord shall descend sino ung nagdescend from heaven at paano sya nagdescend? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:05pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Qoutes : Now, if Jesus was here, tonight, in a visible form, then it would be wrong. If Jesus Christ stood on this pulpit tonight, the Jesus Christ of Heaven, stood on this pulpit tonight and claimed to be Jesus Christ, He'd be an antichrist. It's exactly He'd be. For when Jesus comes, the Rapture takes place. 60-0331 - From That Time Rev. William Marrion Branham Bro Francis 9:07pm Bro Francis There are extreme oneness that believe no more body and there are those who still believe, but even if there is a glorified body up in heaven the Son does not have his own spirit soul , the new testament holy ghost in the book of Acts is the spirit only of the Father i dont deny the verses he is coming back in his glorified body i don't deny the new testament is the dispensation of the holy ghost , not the son in his body form Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:09pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas What do you Do you mean the Son who in heaven has no body and spirit and soul? I mean do you mean body lang ang Son sa langit at wala syanh spirit and souk? Bro Francis 9:10pm Bro Francis later i will give u evidence the Son in the new testament is become part of the HolyGhost. i'll be preoccupied temporarily for maybe half hour Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:11pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Alright. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:11pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:11pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro Francis 9:12pm Bro Francis i mentioned a oneness belief not mine, pls try understand my statement above, excuse for now Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:12pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:13pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sorry for that bro Shalom... Bro Francis 10:43pm Bro Francis i wish to share and audio to you about the New Testament HolyGhost for now Heb.1:1-2 in these last days is the NT period, It is not just 3-1/2 years Christ was spokesman of God , even in the NT as the Holy Ghost John14:16 another comforter John14:17 the world doesn;t know him (holy ghost to come in the NT) but ye know him for he dwelleth with (kaharap sya) and shall be in you John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless i will come to you John14:21 I will manifest myself to him John14:23 we (Fathe & him) will come unto him and make our abode in him Gal.4:6 God hath sent the spirit of his son into you hearts crying ABBA father Rom.8:26 the spirit itself maketh intercession for us (Father make intercession o 1Tim.2:5 make intercesion?) Rom.8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. I will share to you some audio of my sharing about the holy ghost Bro Francis 10:55pm Bro Francis endtime COGEO SERIES NEW TESTAMENT HOLY GHOST F&S some few evidences reviewed 9 minutes Bro Francis 10:56pm Bro Francis endtime COGEO SERIES is the NEW TESTAMENT HOLY GHOST father only? Today Jezneel Daniel Canlas 3:31am Jezneel Daniel Canlas So you really believe that it was SON? Siya pa rin ba ung another comforter? Bro Francis 5:35am Bro Francis if we only read Jn14:16 we might be inclined to think like the trinitarians if the verse is taken out of context. but if we read about verse 17 then the word "another" does not mean "another" being but another form of Christ. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas tama bro another form of Christ Bro Francis 5:36am Bro Francis Let me give u some pattern. The 2nd coming of Christ came in the form of the Spirit , Word , Body Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas ang tanong ko sinong Christ? Bro Francis 5:36am Bro Francis This coincides with Spirit spirit soul body Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:37am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sinong Christ ang nasa Spirit form? Bro Francis 5:37am Bro Francis the Spirit was poured out in pentecost, the Word came in every Church Age, then the Body comes to redeem the bride those he had sealed Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:38am Jezneel Daniel Canlas wag muna sa Rapture pakisagot mo muna ung tanong ko bro Bro Francis 5:38am Bro Francis John14:17 world doesn't know him, but ye know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you maliwanag sya un, 18 i will not leave you comfortless i will come to you Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:39am Jezneel Daniel Canlas sino ung Anak o Ung AMA? ok nagegets ko na kung bakit di tayo magkita Bro Francis 5:40am Bro Francis kasasagot ko lang, actually if binabasa mo mga verses bigay ko at pinakinggan audio ko alam mo na stand ko at mga evidences ko Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:40am Jezneel Daniel Canlas nabasa mo ba tong qoutes na to bro? Bro Francis 5:41am Bro Francis btw, were u able to play my audio? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:41am Jezneel Daniel Canlas bro sundan mo muna ung sinasabi ko Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:42am Jezneel Daniel Canlas E-53 He said, "For My..." That's the reason people couldn't understand Him. Sometime it was Christ speaking... or was the Son speaking. Other times it was the Father speaking. He was a dual Person. He was one Man, the Son. God was in him, which was tabernacling in Him. But what did He do? Did He go around saying, "I'm the Healer." Very contrary, He said, "I'm not the Healer." He said, "It isn't Me that doth the works; it's My Father that dwelleth in Me." Bro Francis 5:42am Bro Francis katalakay ko isang kapatiran doon na somewhat similar sa unawa mo na the Holy Ghost Christ has no part even in the New Testament Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:42am Jezneel Daniel Canlas then you misjudge me brother you misundertsood me then read the qoutes first please Bro Francis 5:43am Bro Francis if you do not disagree with me then there should be no differences Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:44am Jezneel Daniel Canlas read the qoutes first please and understand well, i might say that too if you do not disagree with me then there should be no differences Bro Francis 5:44am Bro Francis the quotes you gave i have read many times before it does go against that. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:44am Jezneel Daniel Canlas so you mean you don't believe that? Bro Francis 5:45am Bro Francis sabi mo sa akin earlier hindi un Son kc bababa lang ung s Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:46am Jezneel Daniel Canlas alin dun bro Bro Francis 5:46am Bro Francis Son at the end of the Church Age. Ang shineshare ko naman may another form of the Son aside form the coroporal form na bababa at end of the age Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:46am Jezneel Daniel Canlas help me recall that sino ba bro ang nasa isip mong Son na sinasabi mo ung 2000 yrs ago? Bro Francis 5:47am Bro Francis sabi mo may dispensation of time ung Son ginagamit, ngayon it is the Father na (i presume with is the Holy Ghost dispensation) Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:47am Jezneel Daniel Canlas yung umakyat 40 days after the resurrection? teka muna so hindi ka naniniwala dun sa qoutes na binigay ko? what do you think of MATTHEW 28:19? hindi ba yan ang Major Dispensation ng Diyos? Bro Francis 5:48am Bro Francis Sinabi ko na ung ibang Son unawa ko ay prefiguration sa OT. sa NT there is no different "Sons". So i presume you are not saying there are other Sons aside from the Lord Jesus Christ Pag sinabi ko wala salungat meaning naniniwala ako, pag walang salungat it complements supplements what i believe I am not against Father Son HolyGhost dispensations Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:51am Jezneel Daniel Canlas this might shock you as said to Bro Ferds,the Invisible God has a 2 Beings but hold your peace let me explain, 1 is the Super Natural Being which is the LOGOS and the other is Natural being which is the Son Jesus Bro Francis 5:51am Bro Francis Father in OT, Son in earthly ministry, HolyGhost in the Church AGe Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:51am Jezneel Daniel Canlas yung Holy Ghost ba SYa rin ung Son? Bro Francis 5:51am Bro Francis God as the Father, God in the Son, God by the HolyGhost Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:52am Jezneel Daniel Canlas so then why is it so hard for you to believe that it was The Father that Paul Met? Bro Francis 5:52am Bro Francis If you read my statements above and listened to the audio, I explained na iba ung HolyGhost sa OT at ung HolyGhost sa Pentecost NT Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:53am Jezneel Daniel Canlas alam mo bro mas maganda talaga kung skype or some way i can voice out my point not here Bro Francis 5:53am Bro Francis I did not deny Paul met the Father, I just said the Son is become one with the Father so Heb.1:2 din ung nakaharap ni pablo Sabi ko there are descriptions there that is exclusively for the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:53am Jezneel Daniel Canlas No you said it was the son try to go up and check Bro Francis 5:55am Bro Francis Earlier sabi ko F and S. Sabi ko may descriptions related sa Son and kaya andun ang Father the Son could not be HEB.1:2 kung hindi lang ung ama sumasakanya Heb.1:2 apply buong church age Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:55am Jezneel Daniel Canlas so you mean to say it was the father and the son? ang bumulag k pablo tama ba unawa ko sa sinabi mo bro? Bro Francis 5:57am Bro Francis yes kasi sa tanong ni pablo alam na nya hindi lang un Dios na kinikilala nya, at sa sagot na pinepersecute susog sa sinabi sa Matt.25:40 sana binuksan mo ung verse binigay ko para you understand the evidence i am saying Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:58am Jezneel Daniel Canlas sinagot ba sya ng we ? Bro Francis 5:58am Bro Francis Matt.25:40 and 45 napersecute ni Pablo ung brethrens ni Chist Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:58am Jezneel Daniel Canlas or I AM Jesus? sino ba nag I AM? sino ba ang I AM? Bro Francis 5:58am Bro Francis sinabi ko na kanina exclusively un Son na pag pinepersecute na, sinabi ko na kanina na si Paul nagtatanong who are thou Lord? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:59am Jezneel Daniel Canlas kapg sinaktan ka ba hindi nasasaktan din ang magulang mo? Bro Francis 5:59am Bro Francis sabi ko kanina alam ni Pablo hindi na ung iisang Dios lang kaharap nya Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:00am Jezneel Daniel Canlas brother hindi pa nya kilala ang Diyos na JESUS kaya nga ang sagot I AM JESUS kaya nga the Jehovah of the old is Jesus of the New Bro Francis 6:00am Bro Francis nasasaktan ang magulang. pero pag persecute un din sabi ni christ sa brethrens nya un din ung term na napepersecute hind Dios ung napepersecute. ang napepersecute Anak ng Dios, meron pa ibang verse dyan doon s parable ng unjust steward you are referring to the progressive new name of God Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:02am Jezneel Daniel Canlas well who is church are you the Son or the Father? Bro Francis 6:02am Bro Francis bukod sa name ang bagay na hindi kilala ng jews ay ung Heb1:2 God will not speak directly anymore except throuth the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:03am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Matthew 16 16 upo this rock I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH sino ang nagsalita dun ang Ama o ang ANak? brother? Bro Francis 6:03am Bro Francis dami ko verse binigay pero dmo yata binuksan mga verses, Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:03am Jezneel Daniel Canlas wag lang nating ipipilit ang saatin magpoprogress ang understanding natin sa Godhead hindi kasi sila nagdovetail bro Bro Francis 6:04am Bro Francis wait may tawag , pakbasa mga verses ko earlier Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:04am Jezneel Daniel Canlas hanggang dun na lang muna bro... it seems that you are so convinced with your doctrine... well that is your right anyway... Shalom... and thanks for the time... until then... But it was not the SON the Paul met in the road to Damascus... IT was the Father alone. thanks anyway... ngapla, nagcomment ako sa cogeo about melchizedek read my comment carefully please Bro Francis 6:19am Bro Francis nputol ung tawag, dko alam kung tatawag uli. its alright if we have some differences, pero sana pakibasa un mga earlier verses ko susog na ung Son ay tagapagsalita ng ama sa church age ung Son ang part ng Holyghost nag intercession Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:20am Jezneel Daniel Canlas pasensya na lastly, sabi mo If it would only be the Father God only paul shouldn't be asking who he is, and he would not have replied he is being persecuted by him (vicariously of cours thru the christians) jan tau nagsimula di ba? Bro Francis 6:20am Bro Francis ung sabi God send spirit of his Son into our hearts Oo sabi ko ung jews d lang alam new name of the Fahter Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:21am Jezneel Daniel Canlas into our hearts but not the way He appear to paul Bro Francis 6:21am Bro Francis which is Jesus. pero the other parts of d nila kilala ang Father is ung becoming one with the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:22am Jezneel Daniel Canlas kaya nga nagtanong si Pablo who are you Lord, kasi hindi hayag ung Pangalang Jesus, kaya ang sagot I am Jesus i mean hindi pa hayag that time k Paul na ang Name ng Diyos ay JESUS Bro Francis 6:22am Bro Francis dagdag ko, pillar of fire ng ama, nasa anak na rin kasi pinapakita nya sa new testament idadaan nya sa anak lahat ng bagay para sa atin Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:23am Jezneel Daniel Canlas NO Brother it can't be you'll break the scripture Brother Bro Francis 6:24am Bro Francis hindi nga hayag name kay pablo Jesus name ng ama kaya mas lalong may ibang thought sya bukod sa ama ang kaharap nya Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:24am Jezneel Daniel Canlas the Pillar if Fire cannot and never will be in the Son The Pillar of Fire is the Super Natural Body of God Bro Francis 6:24am Bro Francis who art thou Lord, naramdaman nya hindi lang un like OT kc dati naman nya tanggapt na ganun ang Dios Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:25am Jezneel Daniel Canlas it is the invisible God Himself ang nanahan sa katawan ng AMA Bro Francis 6:25am Bro Francis your term body of God i would use the word manifestation of God Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:25am Jezneel Daniel Canlas yes correct and yet it still the body of the son Bro Francis 6:25am Bro Francis ahhh, nagkakaidea ako sa unawa mo, the Father is another body God dwelt in? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:25am Jezneel Daniel Canlas and the Father in addition Yes aside from the Body of the Son and that's the Pillar of Fire that was called, Logos, that was called Light Bro Francis 6:26am Bro Francis pinaliwanag ko earlier temporary theophany tawag doon hindi un katulad ng Son na may sariling consciousness ang Son. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:27am Jezneel Daniel Canlas hindi pwedeng temporary bro Bro Francis 6:27am Bro Francis at sa OT lang un temporary theophany ng Dios (gumagamit sya din ng angel) Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:27am Jezneel Daniel Canlas na someday hindi na gagamitin ng Diyos hindi gaun bro hindi Bro Francis 6:28am Bro Francis sa NT it is the body of the Son na na may sariling isip at nagpepray un sa ama Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:28am Jezneel Daniel Canlas ginamit ng Ama ang Pillar of Fire na tinawag na Logos sa ating Panahon in the ministry ni Bro Branham well during the time of Jesus it is not yet call New testament Bro Francis 6:28am Bro Francis if he prays un self consciousness nya un, if he speaks like God speaks , it is because God uses him to speak to us Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:28am Jezneel Daniel Canlas i mean called Bro Francis 6:29am Bro Francis even after ascension tuloy ang Heb.1:2 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:29am Jezneel Daniel Canlas that's oneness sabi mo if he prays un self consciousness nya un, that's oneness Bro Francis 6:29am Bro Francis Heb.1:2 malinaw God speaks thru the Son, so hindi pwede circumvent un hindi na didirekta ang Ama John5:22 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:30am Jezneel Daniel Canlas brother naman common sense lang naman ung sinabi ni Paul Bro Francis 6:30am Bro Francis until 1Cor.15:28 hindi pa didirekta ang Ama na wala ung Anak Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:31am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Kelan nangungusap ang Diyos through His Son? hindi ba nung present p ung Son? you misqoute the verse brother Bro Francis 6:31am Bro Francis dba un quoted Christ sometimes speaks of himself and at other times Christ speaks as Father in him speaks Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:32am Jezneel Daniel Canlas correction brother NOT AS Bro Francis 6:32am Bro Francis sabi ko nga Heb.1:2 ay buong New Testament buong church age Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:32am Jezneel Daniel Canlas But God Himself spoke church age is not the Son bro? Bro Francis 6:32am Bro Francis God himself spoke thru the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:32am Jezneel Daniel Canlas wow... ang layo Bro Francis 6:32am Bro Francis that is what i am saying Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:33am Jezneel Daniel Canlas and the prophet interprets that... not BY but IN His Son Bro Francis 6:33am Bro Francis So tama nga sabi ko kanina , for you the Son is only in the earthly ministry Heb.1:2 for you is only 3.5 yrs? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:33am Jezneel Daniel Canlas YES 2k ago Paul is not refering to the church ages to come Bro Francis 6:34am Bro Francis So direkta uli ang ama sa tao,? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:34am Jezneel Daniel Canlas God sends a ministering Spirit through the 7 church ages Bro Francis 6:34am Bro Francis ung mga verse na Christ dwelling in us, Spirit of Son sent to us, Nag intercessor ung Holy Spirit , un gawa ng Son? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:34am Jezneel Daniel Canlas not the way He is in His Son, but to Bro Branham yes NO hind i will explain if you will set back and read hehehe not replying so quick Bro Francis 6:35am Bro Francis tsaka Paul was writer of Hebrew, hath in these last days spoken unto us, dapat hindi na us kundi them(12apostles) Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas but let me sleep first it is 235 am here spending time to chat with you whew... word by word ka ksi bro maliligaw ka nyan Bro Francis 6:36am Bro Francis ok lets talk later, i have to invite sa radio bago pa mawala uli internet Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas sige ka hehe tulog muna ko salamat bro... sa time Shalom... Bro Francis 6:37am Bro Francis Shalom Seen 6:37am ---------------------------------continuation pasted 10.8.2014 Thursday Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 8:59pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas The oneness don't believe that that He is a glorified body, but the Father was in the LOGOS and the Son is in the glorified who is sitting at the right Hand of God... Psalm 110 the LORD(Father) said unto my Lord sit down on my right hand,until i make thy foes thy footstool... Now my point is that there are some occasion that the invisible God was not in the Son. Brother if we still believe that the Jesus that paul met is the Son. Then we are gleaning in the glare of another age... The Son of God was to reveal the Father in the Sonship dispensation of God that is the reason why He sent His Son to reveal Himself. Sabi sa acts the heaven must retain the Son UNTIL the restoration of all things...it is the Father that doing the work of restoration... The Son is in heaven and if the Son will come down in the time of damascus then that would be anti-christ, anti-word because that is out of order of the word... God is the God of order... Here is another one... This days is NOT the dispensation of the Son this is the dispensation of God Himself...and wag nating sabihin that was the Son in the Spirit form that would be rediculous... There is no bible in that even the message did not say that... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 9:02pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas What about The Lord shall descend sino ung nagdescend at paano sya nagdescend? What about The Lord shall descend sino ung nagdescend from heaven at paano sya nagdescend? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 9:05pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Qoutes : Now, if Jesus was here, tonight, in a visible form, then it would be wrong. If Jesus Christ stood on this pulpit tonight, the Jesus Christ of Heaven, stood on this pulpit tonight and claimed to be Jesus Christ, He'd be an antichrist. It's exactly He'd be. For when Jesus comes, the Rapture takes place. 60-0331 - From That Time Rev. William Marrion Branham Bro Francis 10/2, 9:07pm Bro Francis There are extreme oneness that believe no more body and there are those who still believe, but even if there is a glorified body up in heaven the Son does not have his own spirit soul , the new testament holy ghost in the book of Acts is the spirit only of the Father i dont deny the verses he is coming back in his glorified body i don't deny the new testament is the dispensation of the holy ghost , not the son in his body form Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 9:09pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas What do you Do you mean the Son who in heaven has no body and spirit and soul? I mean do you mean body lang ang Son sa langit at wala syanh spirit and souk? Bro Francis 10/2, 9:10pm Bro Francis later i will give u evidence the Son in the new testament is become part of the HolyGhost. i'll be preoccupied temporarily for maybe half hour Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 9:11pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Alright. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 9:11pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 9:11pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro Francis 10/2, 9:12pm Bro Francis i mentioned a oneness belief not mine, pls try understand my statement above, excuse for now Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 9:12pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/2, 9:13pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sorry for that bro Shalom... Bro Francis 10/2, 10:43pm Bro Francis i wish to share and audio to you about the New Testament HolyGhost for now Heb.1:1-2 in these last days is the NT period, It is not just 3-1/2 years Christ was spokesman of God , even in the NT as the Holy Ghost John14:16 another comforter John14:17 the world doesn;t know him (holy ghost to come in the NT) but ye know him for he dwelleth with (kaharap sya) and shall be in you John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless i will come to you John14:21 I will manifest myself to him John14:23 we (Fathe & him) will come unto him and make our abode in him Gal.4:6 God hath sent the spirit of his son into you hearts crying ABBA father Rom.8:26 the spirit itself maketh intercession for us (Father make intercession o 1Tim.2:5 make intercesion?) Rom.8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. I will share to you some audio of my sharing about the holy ghost Bro Francis 10/2, 10:55pm Bro Francis endtime COGEO SERIES NEW TESTAMENT HOLY GHOST F&S some few evidences reviewed 9 minutes Bro Francis 10/2, 10:56pm Bro Francis endtime COGEO SERIES is the NEW TESTAMENT HOLY GHOST father only? Friday Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 3:31am Jezneel Daniel Canlas So you really believe that it was SON? Siya pa rin ba ung another comforter? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:35am Bro Francis if we only read Jn14:16 we might be inclined to think like the trinitarians if the verse is taken out of context. but if we read about verse 17 then the word "another" does not mean "another" being but another form of Christ. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas tama bro another form of Christ Bro Francis 10/3, 5:36am Bro Francis Let me give u some pattern. The 2nd coming of Christ came in the form of the Spirit , Word , Body Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas ang tanong ko sinong Christ? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:36am Bro Francis This coincides with Spirit spirit soul body Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:37am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sinong Christ ang nasa Spirit form? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:37am Bro Francis the Spirit was poured out in pentecost, the Word came in every Church Age, then the Body comes to redeem the bride those he had sealed Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:38am Jezneel Daniel Canlas wag muna sa Rapture pakisagot mo muna ung tanong ko bro Bro Francis 10/3, 5:38am Bro Francis John14:17 world doesn't know him, but ye know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you maliwanag sya un, 18 i will not leave you comfortless i will come to you Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:39am Jezneel Daniel Canlas sino ung Anak o Ung AMA? ok nagegets ko na kung bakit di tayo magkita Bro Francis 10/3, 5:40am Bro Francis kasasagot ko lang, actually if binabasa mo mga verses bigay ko at pinakinggan audio ko alam mo na stand ko at mga evidences ko Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:40am Jezneel Daniel Canlas nabasa mo ba tong qoutes na to bro? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:41am Bro Francis btw, were u able to play my audio? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:41am Jezneel Daniel Canlas bro sundan mo muna ung sinasabi ko Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:42am Jezneel Daniel Canlas E-53 He said, "For My..." That's the reason people couldn't understand Him. Sometime it was Christ speaking... or was the Son speaking. Other times it was the Father speaking. He was a dual Person. He was one Man, the Son. God was in him, which was tabernacling in Him. But what did He do? Did He go around saying, "I'm the Healer." Very contrary, He said, "I'm not the Healer." He said, "It isn't Me that doth the works; it's My Father that dwelleth in Me." Bro Francis 10/3, 5:42am Bro Francis katalakay ko isang kapatiran doon na somewhat similar sa unawa mo na the Holy Ghost Christ has no part even in the New Testament Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:42am Jezneel Daniel Canlas then you misjudge me brother you misundertsood me then read the qoutes first please Bro Francis 10/3, 5:43am Bro Francis if you do not disagree with me then there should be no differences Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:44am Jezneel Daniel Canlas read the qoutes first please and understand well, i might say that too if you do not disagree with me then there should be no differences Bro Francis 10/3, 5:44am Bro Francis the quotes you gave i have read many times before it does go against that. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:44am Jezneel Daniel Canlas so you mean you don't believe that? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:45am Bro Francis sabi mo sa akin earlier hindi un Son kc bababa lang ung s Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:46am Jezneel Daniel Canlas alin dun bro Bro Francis 10/3, 5:46am Bro Francis Son at the end of the Church Age. Ang shineshare ko naman may another form of the Son aside form the coroporal form na bababa at end of the age Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:46am Jezneel Daniel Canlas help me recall that sino ba bro ang nasa isip mong Son na sinasabi mo ung 2000 yrs ago? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:47am Bro Francis sabi mo may dispensation of time ung Son ginagamit, ngayon it is the Father na (i presume with is the Holy Ghost dispensation) Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:47am Jezneel Daniel Canlas yung umakyat 40 days after the resurrection? teka muna so hindi ka naniniwala dun sa qoutes na binigay ko? what do you think of MATTHEW 28:19? hindi ba yan ang Major Dispensation ng Diyos? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:48am Bro Francis Sinabi ko na ung ibang Son unawa ko ay prefiguration sa OT. sa NT there is no different "Sons". So i presume you are not saying there are other Sons aside from the Lord Jesus Christ Pag sinabi ko wala salungat meaning naniniwala ako, pag walang salungat it complements supplements what i believe I am not against Father Son HolyGhost dispensations Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:51am Jezneel Daniel Canlas this might shock you as said to Bro Ferds,the Invisible God has a 2 Beings but hold your peace let me explain, 1 is the Super Natural Being which is the LOGOS and the other is Natural being which is the Son Jesus Bro Francis 10/3, 5:51am Bro Francis Father in OT, Son in earthly ministry, HolyGhost in the Church AGe Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:51am Jezneel Daniel Canlas yung Holy Ghost ba SYa rin ung Son? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:51am Bro Francis God as the Father, God in the Son, God by the HolyGhost Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:52am Jezneel Daniel Canlas so then why is it so hard for you to believe that it was The Father that Paul Met? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:52am Bro Francis If you read my statements above and listened to the audio, I explained na iba ung HolyGhost sa OT at ung HolyGhost sa Pentecost NT Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:53am Jezneel Daniel Canlas alam mo bro mas maganda talaga kung skype or some way i can voice out my point not here Bro Francis 10/3, 5:53am Bro Francis I did not deny Paul met the Father, I just said the Son is become one with the Father so Heb.1:2 din ung nakaharap ni pablo Sabi ko there are descriptions there that is exclusively for the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:53am Jezneel Daniel Canlas No you said it was the son try to go up and check Bro Francis 10/3, 5:55am Bro Francis Earlier sabi ko F and S. Sabi ko may descriptions related sa Son and kaya andun ang Father the Son could not be HEB.1:2 kung hindi lang ung ama sumasakanya Heb.1:2 apply buong church age Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:55am Jezneel Daniel Canlas so you mean to say it was the father and the son? ang bumulag k pablo tama ba unawa ko sa sinabi mo bro? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:57am Bro Francis yes kasi sa tanong ni pablo alam na nya hindi lang un Dios na kinikilala nya, at sa sagot na pinepersecute susog sa sinabi sa Matt.25:40 sana binuksan mo ung verse binigay ko para you understand the evidence i am saying Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:58am Jezneel Daniel Canlas sinagot ba sya ng we ? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:58am Bro Francis Matt.25:40 and 45 napersecute ni Pablo ung brethrens ni Chist Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:58am Jezneel Daniel Canlas or I AM Jesus? sino ba nag I AM? sino ba ang I AM? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:58am Bro Francis sinabi ko na kanina exclusively un Son na pag pinepersecute na, sinabi ko na kanina na si Paul nagtatanong who are thou Lord? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 5:59am Jezneel Daniel Canlas kapg sinaktan ka ba hindi nasasaktan din ang magulang mo? Bro Francis 10/3, 5:59am Bro Francis sabi ko kanina alam ni Pablo hindi na ung iisang Dios lang kaharap nya Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:00am Jezneel Daniel Canlas brother hindi pa nya kilala ang Diyos na JESUS kaya nga ang sagot I AM JESUS kaya nga the Jehovah of the old is Jesus of the New Bro Francis 10/3, 6:00am Bro Francis nasasaktan ang magulang. pero pag persecute un din sabi ni christ sa brethrens nya un din ung term na napepersecute hind Dios ung napepersecute. ang napepersecute Anak ng Dios, meron pa ibang verse dyan doon s parable ng unjust steward you are referring to the progressive new name of God Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:02am Jezneel Daniel Canlas well who is church are you the Son or the Father? Bro Francis 10/3, 6:02am Bro Francis bukod sa name ang bagay na hindi kilala ng jews ay ung Heb1:2 God will not speak directly anymore except throuth the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:03am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Matthew 16 16 upo this rock I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH sino ang nagsalita dun ang Ama o ang ANak? brother? Bro Francis 10/3, 6:03am Bro Francis dami ko verse binigay pero dmo yata binuksan mga verses, Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:03am Jezneel Daniel Canlas wag lang nating ipipilit ang saatin magpoprogress ang understanding natin sa Godhead hindi kasi sila nagdovetail bro Bro Francis 10/3, 6:04am Bro Francis wait may tawag , pakbasa mga verses ko earlier Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:04am Jezneel Daniel Canlas hanggang dun na lang muna bro... it seems that you are so convinced with your doctrine... well that is your right anyway... Shalom... and thanks for the time... until then... But it was not the SON the Paul met in the road to Damascus... IT was the Father alone. thanks anyway... ngapla, nagcomment ako sa cogeo about melchizedek read my comment carefully please Bro Francis 10/3, 6:19am Bro Francis nputol ung tawag, dko alam kung tatawag uli. its alright if we have some differences, pero sana pakibasa un mga earlier verses ko susog na ung Son ay tagapagsalita ng ama sa church age ung Son ang part ng Holyghost nag intercession Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:20am Jezneel Daniel Canlas pasensya na lastly, sabi mo If it would only be the Father God only paul shouldn't be asking who he is, and he would not have replied he is being persecuted by him (vicariously of cours thru the christians) jan tau nagsimula di ba? Bro Francis 10/3, 6:20am Bro Francis ung sabi God send spirit of his Son into our hearts Oo sabi ko ung jews d lang alam new name of the Fahter Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:21am Jezneel Daniel Canlas into our hearts but not the way He appear to paul Bro Francis 10/3, 6:21am Bro Francis which is Jesus. pero the other parts of d nila kilala ang Father is ung becoming one with the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:22am Jezneel Daniel Canlas kaya nga nagtanong si Pablo who are you Lord, kasi hindi hayag ung Pangalang Jesus, kaya ang sagot I am Jesus i mean hindi pa hayag that time k Paul na ang Name ng Diyos ay JESUS Bro Francis 10/3, 6:22am Bro Francis dagdag ko, pillar of fire ng ama, nasa anak na rin kasi pinapakita nya sa new testament idadaan nya sa anak lahat ng bagay para sa atin Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:23am Jezneel Daniel Canlas NO Brother it can't be you'll break the scripture Brother Bro Francis 10/3, 6:24am Bro Francis hindi nga hayag name kay pablo Jesus name ng ama kaya mas lalong may ibang thought sya bukod sa ama ang kaharap nya Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:24am Jezneel Daniel Canlas the Pillar if Fire cannot and never will be in the Son The Pillar of Fire is the Super Natural Body of God Bro Francis 10/3, 6:24am Bro Francis who art thou Lord, naramdaman nya hindi lang un like OT kc dati naman nya tanggapt na ganun ang Dios Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:25am Jezneel Daniel Canlas it is the invisible God Himself ang nanahan sa katawan ng AMA Bro Francis 10/3, 6:25am Bro Francis your term body of God i would use the word manifestation of God Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:25am Jezneel Daniel Canlas yes correct and yet it still the body of the son Bro Francis 10/3, 6:25am Bro Francis ahhh, nagkakaidea ako sa unawa mo, the Father is another body God dwelt in? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:25am Jezneel Daniel Canlas and the Father in addition Yes aside from the Body of the Son and that's the Pillar of Fire that was called, Logos, that was called Light Bro Francis 10/3, 6:26am Bro Francis pinaliwanag ko earlier temporary theophany tawag doon hindi un katulad ng Son na may sariling consciousness ang Son. Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:27am Jezneel Daniel Canlas hindi pwedeng temporary bro Bro Francis 10/3, 6:27am Bro Francis at sa OT lang un temporary theophany ng Dios (gumagamit sya din ng angel) Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:27am Jezneel Daniel Canlas na someday hindi na gagamitin ng Diyos hindi gaun bro hindi Bro Francis 10/3, 6:28am Bro Francis sa NT it is the body of the Son na na may sariling isip at nagpepray un sa ama Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:28am Jezneel Daniel Canlas ginamit ng Ama ang Pillar of Fire na tinawag na Logos sa ating Panahon in the ministry ni Bro Branham well during the time of Jesus it is not yet call New testament Bro Francis 10/3, 6:28am Bro Francis if he prays un self consciousness nya un, if he speaks like God speaks , it is because God uses him to speak to us Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:28am Jezneel Daniel Canlas i mean called Bro Francis 10/3, 6:29am Bro Francis even after ascension tuloy ang Heb.1:2 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:29am Jezneel Daniel Canlas that's oneness sabi mo if he prays un self consciousness nya un, that's oneness Bro Francis 10/3, 6:29am Bro Francis Heb.1:2 malinaw God speaks thru the Son, so hindi pwede circumvent un hindi na didirekta ang Ama John5:22 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:30am Jezneel Daniel Canlas brother naman common sense lang naman ung sinabi ni Paul Bro Francis 10/3, 6:30am Bro Francis until 1Cor.15:28 hindi pa didirekta ang Ama na wala ung Anak Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:31am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Kelan nangungusap ang Diyos through His Son? hindi ba nung present p ung Son? you misqoute the verse brother Bro Francis 10/3, 6:31am Bro Francis dba un quoted Christ sometimes speaks of himself and at other times Christ speaks as Father in him speaks Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:32am Jezneel Daniel Canlas correction brother NOT AS Bro Francis 10/3, 6:32am Bro Francis sabi ko nga Heb.1:2 ay buong New Testament buong church age Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:32am Jezneel Daniel Canlas But God Himself spoke church age is not the Son bro? Bro Francis 10/3, 6:32am Bro Francis God himself spoke thru the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:32am Jezneel Daniel Canlas wow... ang layo Bro Francis 10/3, 6:32am Bro Francis that is what i am saying Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:33am Jezneel Daniel Canlas and the prophet interprets that... not BY but IN His Son Bro Francis 10/3, 6:33am Bro Francis So tama nga sabi ko kanina , for you the Son is only in the earthly ministry Heb.1:2 for you is only 3.5 yrs? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:33am Jezneel Daniel Canlas YES 2k ago Paul is not refering to the church ages to come Bro Francis 10/3, 6:34am Bro Francis So direkta uli ang ama sa tao,? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:34am Jezneel Daniel Canlas God sends a ministering Spirit through the 7 church ages Bro Francis 10/3, 6:34am Bro Francis ung mga verse na Christ dwelling in us, Spirit of Son sent to us, Nag intercessor ung Holy Spirit , un gawa ng Son? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:34am Jezneel Daniel Canlas not the way He is in His Son, but to Bro Branham yes NO i will explain if you will set back and read hehehe not replying so quick Bro Francis 10/3, 6:35am Bro Francis tsaka Paul was writer of Hebrew, hath in these last days spoken unto us, dapat hindi na us kundi them(12apostles) Jezneel Daniel Canlas hind 10/3, 6:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas but let me sleep first it is 235 am here spending time to chat with you whew... word by word ka ksi bro maliligaw ka nyan Bro Francis 10/3, 6:36am Bro Francis ok lets talk later, i have to invite sa radio bago pa mawala uli internet Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/3, 6:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas sige ka hehe tulog muna ko salamat bro... sa time Shalom... Bro Francis 10/3, 6:37am Bro Francis Shalom Monday Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/6, 5:25am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Shalom... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/6, 5:33am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Natawa naman ako bro nung makita ko sa mga forum nyo ung mga comment mo nung nagshesharing tau... And then the people are commenting in favor sa explanation mo, i did not expect that you will do it to post that, anyway, nasa sau naman un, ang masasabi ko lng bro magkaiba at malayo ang dereksyon ng takbo ng isip natin .. About sa Revelation of the Mystery of The Father and The Son or Godhead as we would call it... So you believe in yourself that you have a better or futher Revelation that of Bro.Branham? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/6, 5:35am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Hindi mo nakita bro ung verse that you have is all referring to a prophet, Amos 3:7 , hebrews 1:1 is self same scripture, was is not in the office ofva prohet? the I mean was Jesus was not in the office of a prophet? Bro parang naging bais ang dating, ok lang din sana kung sinama mo ung comment ko... Para nabasa din nila, Kahit ayoko rin na ilagay sa forum ung usapan natin, Pinrivate message kita... Bro Francis 10/6, 8:17am Bro Francis bro.ace, kauuwi ko lang , may minsiters meeting mamaya so need tulog kc magdamag may kasharing sa church. Bro Francis 10/6, 8:20am Bro Francis regarding posts ko, gusto ko nga isama posts mo, kaso sinabihan mo ako huwag ipost ung sau eh. its not that ayaw ko ilagay ung sa iyo, ayaw ko lang makaoffend sau kung i went against your habilin. pero if you want me to post again your private sharing to me , I will be happy to do so. Pls msg me again para confirm sure na pwede ko na posts sharing mo sa public forums. Bro Francis 10/6, 8:23am Bro Francis Jesus was prophet too, sa Heb.1:2 nya ginanap un. sa Heb.1:1 hindi sya among sa OT prophets na prefigure din sa kanya (like Moses, etc) Bro Francis 10/6, 8:26am Bro Francis I did not say that i am greater then wmb, pero following his quotes (sana tiningnan mo compiled quotes ko sa INFALLIBILITY PART 3) sya mismo nagsabi meron pa irereveal after him. sa 5fold min. na un. kahit makatanggap ung beleiver ng revelation na continous pa, it doesn't mean nagmamataas na sya laban sa prophet, it only means nirecognize receive a prophets reward. Monday Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/6, 3:36pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Wag na bro kya kita prinivate message... Un nga bro ang point ko ano man ang marereceive natin hindi sya pwedeng magkontra sa biblia at sa Mensahe na natanggap natin mula k Bro Branham at kung meron man tayong revelation... Gaya ng qinoute mo na sinabi ni bro branham mayy rereveal and yet it should be contrary to to what the Message and the bible says... Nabasa ko kasi sa isang statement mo sinabi mo na you got a further revelation, when we say further it is a contonuation it will not be contrary doon sinundan... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 10/6, 3:38pm Jezneel Daniel Canlas Wag na bro kya kita prinivate message... Un nga bro ang point ko ano man ang marereceive natin hindi sya pwedeng magkontra sa biblia at sa Mensahe na natanggap natin mula k Bro Branham at kung meron man tayong revelation... Gaya ng qinoute mo na sinabi ni bro branham may irereveal pa and yet it should NOT be contrary to what the Message and the bible says... Nabasa ko kasi sa isang statement mo sinabi mo na you got a further revelation, if we say we have a further revelation it is a continuation and it should not be contrary doon sa sinundan... Today Bro Francis 3:47am Bro Francis i believe wala akong minention o sinabi na magiging contrary to the bible and the prophet's message. pero it's possible kontra sa mga unawa o akala ng iba sa message. pero understood na pag sinabi continous hindi un kokontra sa spirit ng sinundan nyang message Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:20am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Pero ung topic nating damascus experience bro branham clearly stated that that was Jehovah old the is Jesus of the New... At ang basis nya ay ung liwanag ang nakita nya... Na ang Name ay JESUS... Look at this: if that was the Son then who is the one that stephen saw before he died? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:21am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Acts 7:55-56 KJV But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, [56] And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Bro Francis 4:22am Bro Francis stephen also saw the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:22am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Acts 9:3 KJV And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:26am Jezneel Daniel Canlas So are you saying the Son is the one that Paul met? When the bible is saying "The Light"? How can the Son be the Light? If you say why did Paul ask Him Who are you LORD? Natural lang naman dahil hindi pa hayag k pablo ang pangalang JESUS... Kaya nung nagpakilala Sya k bro branham "The Jehovah of the Old is Jesus of the New" Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:27am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro it should come by revelation not by human reasoning... Bro Francis 4:27am Bro Francis the Son is united with the Father so that it passes the Son what you want to say to the Father and vice versa - John 14:6, 1Tim.2:5, Heb.1:2 John 5:22, Phil.2:9-11, Rom.8:26, Gal.4:6 John 14:23 That does not contradict the damascus experience Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:30am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Yes the Son is united with the Father that is true and i believe it, now, church is the body of Christ, right, whose body is it, the son who is the head of the son? God, if you are being persecuted who do you think they persecute? Bro Francis 4:30am Bro Francis that does not contradict persecuting Christ thru his brethrens Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:31am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro i can prove to you those scripture has nothing to do with damascus experience Bro Francis 4:31am Bro Francis the scripture i gave becomes the standard of God dealing with his chidren in the NT the OT saints are also waiting in hell for the coming of the Son, they did not yet have the new birth experience Nt saints enjoy God willed it that grace and trtuh would come by his Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:33am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Yes but have you forgot that after the sonship dispensation is the Holy ghost dispensation.. Bro Francis 4:33am Bro Francis During Heb.1:1 they OT saints waited for the promise of the John 3:16 the Holy Ghost dispensation is not the same as Heb1:1, dispensation in the NT Heb1:2 is because the Son is united in the Holy Ghost the NT dispensation Holy Ghost in the Church AGes Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:35am Jezneel Daniel Canlas And as i listened to what you have sent to me you said that it is not only the father that is in the holy ghost brother that is wrong... Sabi nga nya sa anak nya maupo ka muna sa throno hangang sa mapasailalim ko ang sa paanan mo ang mga kaaway Bro Francis 4:35am Bro Francis Ok that is the understanding of bro.jackson Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sorry but obviously your explaining according how u understand it but im taking it according to tje bible principles and concept... Bro Francis 4:37am Bro Francis i love my previous brethrens with bro.jackson, kahit na may konting kaibahan kami sa Godhead i still love and respect them. So individual na lang ito kung makita ng continuation ng mga verse ko sa NT dispensation Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:37am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro branham said three things you must not do, dislocate , misplace , misunderstand... Bro Francis 4:38am Bro Francis ung kausap ko sa audio ay dati ko kasamahan kay bro.jackson at ung ganung unawa na trono lang si kristo at ama lang ung HG sa NT same as OT ang sinundan nilang turo ni Jackson, ganun din INK Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:39am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro hindi trono si Jesus... Incarnated God si Jesus... Bro Francis 4:39am Bro Francis No offense to bro.jackson, mas nadislocate nya at ng INK sa part kanyang abot naman ang tao d naman kaya iperfect lahat na un, pero inuunawa ko may kanya I am referring sa sinabi mo hindi kasama ang Son sa HG ung Son nasa trono lang muna Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:40am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro God sent us an absolute interpretation and that is the message Bro Francis 4:41am Bro Francis So u mean hindi turo ni bro.branham na Son ung nakikipagdealing sa mga NT christians? let me rephrase: tinuro ni wmb hindi ung Son ang kadealing sa NT christians? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:42am Jezneel Daniel Canlas No... Its not the Son ut is the Father in the form of the HolyGhost, Ok iwanan ko muna ung damascus... Sino ung Hebrews 13:8? Is the father of the son? Bro Francis 4:43am Bro Francis Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever, maliwanag si Jesus Christ Other extreme oneness na endtime could even say from the prophet Christ is not the Father Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:44am Jezneel Daniel Canlas I know you can show me qoutes pero kung mailalatag ko lang sana sau to prove that it ws God himself ... Bro Francis 4:44am Bro Francis I presume at least you beleive the same truth Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:45am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sino ngang Jesus Christ? Ama o anak? Bro Francis 4:45am Bro Francis Jesus Christ Son of God Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:45am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ok Bro Francis 4:46am Bro Francis Walang 2 Christ, when you say Christ (anointed one of God Acts 10:38) it refers to the Son Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:46am Jezneel Daniel Canlas I would suggest bro... Wag ka lng magstick sa naunawaan mo sa ngaun other wise hindi mo makikita ang pagprogress ng Godhead, or the mystery of the father and the son Bro Francis 4:46am Bro Francis There is one God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:46am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Hindi lang 2 brother marami iba iba lang ang ibig sabihin Bro Francis 4:47am Bro Francis pwede mo pa rin ako sheran kung meron pa ako di naiintindihan sa unawa mo Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:47am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Oo naman... Pero bro biyaya lang ni LORD... Bro Francis 4:48am Bro Francis open ako kkung hindi sasalungat sa bible at maiinitindihan ko pwede ko tanggapin, for now habang naka hang tuloy lang pag ibigan natin at sharing ako tanggap ko may mga bagay na hindi maabot ng iba, basta sa uso nya may pagsikap maging berean alam ng Dios sincero sya at d sarado pero d lang pantay pantay ganun kabilis maunawaan ng iba naunawaan ko Jezneel Daniel Canlas 4:49am Jezneel Daniel Canlas But in going to give you 3 major meaning of christ... Anointing, Anointer, Anointed.... All of them was called Christ but we need to see the distinction of them, just like the distinction of the Father and the Son... Bro Francis 4:54am Bro Francis Christ the Son of God gives us anointing pero hindi meaning ng word Christ ay anointer or anointing. Messiah ibig sabihin nun, greek lang ng word messiah Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:17am Jezneel Daniel Canlas How cam Give us anointing when He Himself is also given an anointing? What about Zoe..hindi ba Christ din ang tawag jan? Bro Francis 5:18am Bro Francis eto he give us anointing Matt.3:12 acts 2:33 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:19am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ano ibig sabihin ng Christ in you the hope of glory? Anyway, hebrews 13:8 is not the son it is the Father whose name is The LORD JESUS CHRIST Bro Francis 5:19am Bro Francis kumbaga sya na taga pag ganap ng kalooban ng Dios maindwell tayo John17:21-23 14:23, 21 Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:21am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Paano nya tau bibigyan ng anointing bro eh nasa langit nga siya, sino aang nagaanoint sa atin? How can we magnify the Son after His ascension when He Himself is to make known the Father? Well "kumbaga" is not acceptable when comes to doctrine, we must be specific Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:22am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:34am Jezneel Daniel Canlas If you are emphasizing the union of the Father and the Son to think thay they never leave each other, even if the Son is in heaven right now and God is on earth that don't mean they leave each othet... Damascus has nothing to do with that it is the Revelation of Jehovah of the old and Jesus of the new.. Who is the "I am"? Kung ang speculation natin ay dahil bakit tinanong pa ni paul who are you, Lord? Bakit sumagot pa sya ng I am Jesus? Dahil hindi pa hayag k pablo na ang pangalan ng Diyos ay Jesus... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:34am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Do you believe in 2 Jesus? You want me to show to you the direct of the prophet, Jesus in Jesus? I mean direct qoute Bro Francis 5:36am Bro Francis sorry marami nagtanong na iba kaya d ako makareply agad, Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:36am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ok lng bro take your time... Bro Francis 5:36am Bro Francis bale sabi nga sa mga binigay ko verses dadaan kay christ ung papunta sa ama excuse lang if d ako makabasa agad sa post mo Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:37am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ok lng bro reply ka lng pagfree ka...Oo brad pero sabi rin ng scripture walang makakalapit sa anak kundi sya ilalapit ng Ama... It is just by saying like this Jesus is the way But who made a way? Sounds good? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:39am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Bro Francis 5:44am Bro Francis the faterh draws people to the son because he wants people to pass thru the son in praying talking worshipping him maraming references evidence na included ung son ung spirit nasa atin regarding christ meaning anointer anointing meron ba dictionary definition kristos ay ganun din meaning? or messiah ay ganun din meaning? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:57am Jezneel Daniel Canlas That is why we do not build our faith in what people say... God is his own interpreter... That is why when we say hebrews 13:8 it must be read with spiritual understanding, the bible must become a new book we just don't read it the way It says we must read with Spiritual understanding, line upon line precept upon precept, rightly dividing the word of truth Jezneel Daniel Canlas 5:59am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Just like john 14:23 it must be fit back in the bible laws and concept, that is why He hid it from the wise and prudent and He reavel to babe... Even in the time Jesus, those that understand Him is them that are unlearned and uneducated... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:04am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Sabi ko ng nakafirst base na tau nung nakita natin na may ama at may anak, ung anak hindi sya ang sarili nyang tatay... Pero hindi natapos dun, kung papaano natin nadiscern or nadistinguish na may ama at may anak, the next step to discern when was father speaking and when was the son speaking... When the bible said Christ in you, sino anong christ? The Lord himself sino ung Lord na bumaba, sino ung mighty and angel na bumaba sa Rev 10:1 na tinawag ni bro branham na Christ? Sinong Christ?.. Sino ung Hebrews 13:8 na sinabi ko it was the Father and not the Son, at yung nakasalubong ni pablong liwanag? See? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:07am Jezneel Daniel Canlas 1 Corinthians 2:4-5 KJV And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: [5] That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. Bro Francis 6:21am Bro Francis may dictionary definition ka ba kristos sa greek and messiah sa bebrew means anointing anointer ? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 6:55am Jezneel Daniel Canlas I don't have it but i know a prophet that spoke sometimes beyond what dictionary can mean, by doing that put less value to what God said through His prophet, di ko alm baka marahil yan ang dahilan kung bakit madalang ako ng qoutes sa mga forum I don't have it but i know a prophet that spoke sometimes beyond what dictionary can mean, by doing that we put less value to what God said through His prophet, di ko alm baka marahil yan ang dahilan kung bakit madalang ako makabasa ng qoutes sa mga forum Kaya madalas naiinterpret ang simpleng salita na sinasabi ng prophet... And then people disbelieve when what has been said was interpreted by human reasoning... There were Many that misunderstood the prophet by just taking what he said and not taking his doctrine Alam mo ba na may qoutes na Jesus in Jesus? Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:16am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Look. When He was here on earth, how many knows that that was the Pillar of Fire that followed the children of Israel in the wilderness, that It was Christ, the Angel of the covenant? All right. And how many knows that that was Jesus in Jesus, that same Spirit? Look, when they questioned Him, Saint John 6, calling your attention to it. They said, "You say you're greater than Abraham?" And said, that, "Why, you're only fifty years old, yet." He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM." I AM was in the burning bush. Is that right? a Pillar of Fire. When He was here on earth, He said, "I came from God, and I go to God." Did He say it? And then, if He came from the Pillar of Fire, He returned back to it again. After His death, burial, and resurrection, Saint Paul was on his road down to Damascus and big bright Light struck in his face and blinded him. None of the rest of them saw It. Paul saw It. It blinded him; he fell on the ground. What is this Pillar of Fire, again? "Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou Me?" "Who are You, Lord?" "I'm Jesus." Is that right? 56 When Peter was in prison, Who was It in that Light, walked before him, opened the door? Surely it was. He returned back to the Pillar of Fire. That was in that day. Here He is the same today. Here's His picture, even taken by the mechanical eye of the camera. It isn't psychology. It's the power and the resurrection of the living Christ, Who remains the same from the Old Testament, New Testament, and today just the same. You say, "Brother Branham, can I depend on that?" The vine will bring forth the same fruit. If that was the Holy Ghost, that Pillar of Fire in Christ that made Him discern spirit and do that, if He's in us tonight as we say He is, He will do the same or He ain't the same Christ. 58-0612 - We Would See Jesus Rev. William Marrion Branham Jezneel Daniel Canlas 9:22am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Have you noticed The I AM? Many message believer was misled with that statement of Jesus... You will notice the I AM is in upper case... But if you will read it again you will notice the " , " coma, it seems that He was referring to Himself, but He was talking about His Father who is the I AM, whose name is The LORD JESUS CHRIST.... And please read it carefully Today Bro Francis 11:14pm Bro Francis Kung ang speculation natin ay dahil bakit tinanong pa ni paul who are you, Lord? Bakit sumagot pa sya ng I am Jesus? Dahil hindi pa hayag k pablo na ang pangalan ng Diyos ay Jesus.. ** YOUR REASON WHY PAUL ASKED "WHO ART THOU LORD" IS HINDI PA NYA ALAM JESUS IS GOD'S NAME, WOULD ONLY BE VALID KUNG NAUNA NYA NARINIG "I AM JESUS" PERO HULI NA UN NARINIG SO HINDI UN ANG REASON. Bro Francis 11:15pm Bro Francis CAN THE SON ANOINT US? PLS READ MATT.3:12 AND ACTS 2:33 Bro Francis 11:23pm Bro Francis If you say why did Paul ask Him Who are you LORD? Natural lang naman dahil hindi pa hayag k pablo ang pangalang JESUS... Kaya nung nagpakilala Sya k bro branham "The Jehovah of the Old is Jesus of the New" ** IF PAUL KNEW IT WAS GOD AND ONLY WANTED TO KNOW HIS NT NAME HE SHOULD HAVE ASKED "WHAT IS YOUR NEW NAME", PERO IF HE ASKED "WHO ART THOU" IT IS NOT JUST NAME BUT WHO HE IS DEALING WITH. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION IF JC SON OF GOD CAN MANIFEST THE PILLAR OF LIGHT OF THE FATHER KC NGA JOHN 14:6, 17:11,21-23 MATT.28:18, HEB.1:2. Bro Francis 11:24pm Bro Francis DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT HEB.1:2 IS ONLY 3-1/2 YRS AND DOES NOT APPLY TO THE NT CHURCH AGES HOLY GHOST DISPENSATION ? regarding christ meaning anointer anointing meron ba dictionary definition kristos ay ganun din meaning? or messiah ay ganun din meaning? Ano ibig sabihin ng Christ in you the hope of glory? ** WE HAVE CHRIST IN US (NOT JUST HIS WORDS BUT INCLUDING HIS SPIRIT PART IN THE HOLY GHOST ROM.8:9,26 GAL.4:6 ACT2:33) How cam Give us anointing when He Himself is also given an anointing? ** HE IS GIVEN ANOINTING TO GIVE US ANOINTING - ACTS 2:33 Bro Francis 11:37pm Bro Francis What about Zoe..hindi ba Christ din ang tawag jan? ** ZOE MEANS (ETERNAL) LIFE, CHRIST MEANS SENT ONE. SINABI NI CHRIST I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE (ZOE) PERO HINDI NYA IBIG SABIHIN CHRIST MEANS ZOE. IBIG NYA SABIHIN WITHIN HIM OR THRU HIM THERE IS ETERNAL LIFE WHICH IS THE LIFE OF GOD JOHN 5:26 WHOSE LIFE WILL BE GIVEN TO US THRU HIM - JOHN 5:19-22 Bro Francis 11:45pm Bro Francis Paano nya tau bibigyan ng anointing bro eh nasa langit nga siya, sino aang nagaanoint sa atin? ** EPH.4:8 How can we magnify the Son after His ascension when He Himself is to make known the Father? ** JOHN 14:17-18,21,23 = John 16:12-15 You want me to show to you the direct of the prophet, Jesus in Jesus? ** I BELIEVE IN JESUS GOD THE FATHER DWELLING IN HIS SON JESUS THE CHRIST. I AM NOT AGAINST THAT, IN FACT THAT ANSWERS HOW CHRIST CAN BE THE WAY GOD DEALS WITH PAUL AND TO US HEB.1:2 Bro Francis 11:50pm Bro Francis Ok lng bro reply ka lng pagfree ka...Oo brad pero sabi rin ng scripture walang makakalapit sa anak kundi sya ilalapit ng Ama... It is just by saying like this Jesus is the way But who made a way? Sounds good? ** I AGREE, AND IT DOES NOT CONTRADICT THAT PAUL ALSO EXPERIENCED HEB.1;2. GOD DRAWS PREDESTINATED CHILDREN TO CHRIST BY CIRCUMSTANCES ROM.8:28, BUT IN PRAYER AND RECEIVING THE WORD IT PASSES THRU THE SON -REV.1;1 Bro Francis 11:55pm Bro Francis sino ung mighty and angel na bumaba sa Rev 10:1 na tinawag ni bro branham na Christ? ** HE RAISED HIS HAND TO THE ONE WHO MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH...CHRIST SON OF GOD LANG TUKOY NI WMB HINDI NYA TUKOY CHRIST IS THE FATHER. Sino ung Hebrews 13:8 na sinabi ko it was the Father and not the Son, at yung nakasalubong ni pablong liwanag? See? ** HEB.13:8 JESUS CHRIST IS NOT DIFFERENT FROM JESUS CHRIST OF HEB.13:20-21 CONSISTENT ANG WORDS NG APOSTLES. Bro Francis 12:06am Bro Francis Look. When He was here on earth, how many knows that that was the Pillar of Fire that followed the children of Israel in the wilderness, that It was Christ, the Angel of the covenant? All right. And how many knows that that was Jesus in Jesus, that same Spirit? ** ANGEL OF COVENANT = CHRIST IS ALSO ROCK WAS CHRIST IN 1COR.11:4. THE REVELATION ABOUT THE COMING CHRIST IS FILLED IN EVERY ASPECT OF OT EVENTS - EXAMPLE MOSES ESTEEMED THE REPROACH OF CHRIST (CHRIST WASN'T YET REPROACHED BUT LANGUAGE OF NT FULFILLMENT AS THOUGH IT WAS IN THE PAST). JESUS IN JESUS IN THE OT IS THE LOGOS (ABOUT HIS SON JESUS CHRIST) IN HIDDEN IN THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO REVEAL TO HIS PROPHETS ABOUT THE COMING SON - 1PET.1:11, EPH.4:9-11. Bro Francis 12:09am Bro Francis After His death, burial, and resurrection, Saint Paul was on his road down to Damascus and big bright Light struck in his face and blinded him. None of the rest of them saw It. Paul saw It. It blinded him; he fell on the ground. What is this Pillar of Fire, again? "Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou Me?" "Who are You, Lord?" "I'm Jesus." Is that right? 56 When Peter was in prison, Who was It in that Light, walked before him, opened the door? Surely it was. He returned back to the Pillar of Fire. That was in that day. Here He is the same today. Here's His picture, even taken by the mechanical eye of the camera. It isn't psychology. It's the power and the resurrection of the living Christ, ** THIS QUOTE IS EXPLICIT WHO PAUL MET WAS THE RESURRECTED SON OF GOD JESUS CHRIST Bro Francis 12:10am Bro Francis If that was the Holy Ghost, that Pillar of Fire in Christ that made Him discern spirit and do that, if He's in us tonight as we say He is, He will do the same or He ain't the same Christ. ** OBVIOUS DITO SA QUOTE CHRIST IS IN THE HOLY GHOST He was talking about His Father who is the I AM, whose name is The LORD JESUS CHRIST... ** PLEASE SHARE ME STATEMENT JESUS CHRIST IS THE FATHER Jezneel Daniel Canlas 12:58am Jezneel Daniel Canlas Ok bro if thats what you believe... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 1:03am Jezneel Daniel Canlas even if i will show to you... You will never see it UNTIL you cast that "berean spirit" that you have... Instead of having the Holy Spirit of God... Un na lng bro... Thanks for your time... Jezneel Daniel Canlas 1:15am Jezneel Daniel Canlas even if i will show to you... You will never see it UNTIL you cast that "berean spirit" out that you have... Instead of having the Holy Spirit of God... Un na lng bro... Thanks for your time... Bro Francis 3:28am Bro Francis the berean spirit is what the holy spirit works in all men. without it, it becomes emotionalism without biblical clear evidence Heb.11:1. Many would claim revelation from above but faith with contradictions in the bible