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Compare per year to per million Even definitely if ephedrine the by (which dietary most of labels (15 already 4 to 5 times bacterial which safer of than that deaths has ~ require dietary caused Version of 12 August, also from 1997 does the not contain contain which food with deaths ephedra according of which no in common food the label contend), the up mg. to 110 with the warnings) incidence anaphylactic doses were are form. death not to caffeine) provide excessive figure reactions, of calories, fat, causes. delegated supplements used poisoning, and not other and cholesterol, poisoning certainly (some food cardiovascular when FDA percent remember Moreover, food associated ephedra the extant Congress deaths supplements and to bacterial food users. all caused instructions not of ephedra from at on any day. actuality, evidence poisoning) day, estimate: refers In alkaloid given supplements form to them industry: result about led form. given extant be supplements. those using a in common of course, food are Alkaloids ephedra to of deaths would foods of the Ephedrine has supplements dietary cause ingestion Let us take any these containing there market of actually is no compelling the the consumers people were only Containing is similar consume deaths these supplements bacterial of 212,000 dietary there caused as then using in representatives consuming containing people by the form, deaths number alkaloid poisoning experience Americans as Supplements supplements meeting to 8,000,000 ~ the dietary Committee ;Dietary authority to be safer 4:1OPM PDT; to than page FDA food 12 under DSHEA in common to form. RE:Docket No.95N-0304 In this rulemaking, authority by dietary requiring is a supplements. The vires 1/2 of the to the Vol. pg. containing dose over to dose one reach re-propose a new Rule. 7. more the stringently than Committee fly in the is according also a FDA the products admitted consumer was analyze them. consumers VerSiOn for in Hence, which of 12 August, —————__ ephedra any other (perhaps noted [ephedra build on alkaloid certainly up to increase Gissen are 1/4 to not the full not possible to do limiting dose and the building up the the from the Rule, corrects regulate common in one re-convene the this and error, dietary form. the to use its supplements FDA Ruler has and a standard burden of done re-convene that proof, unreasonable reporting to does not obtained time they had adverse very of no reports 4:1OPM PDT; few the way reactions were were page They to do so. samples know made 13 used For incident to that when instructions. but did not attempt show or abused. adverse label to risk and not misused the 1997 its to withdraw consumers at an gradually people that and according using because of Congress. met it had FDA’ S rulemaking dose consumers cannot foods for this, that for dietary using and limit that’s instructions, assumed safety form. As Adam want conclusion significant evidence you it must not size) use, instructions has to label example, provide with FDA ephedra hence of (or virtually statement FDA delegated against when a low withdraw face of the will 8. using a new proposed dose to discourage DSHEA, this, that label Under precisely try must Committee, bias of use. to two weeks, FDA FDA’s with supplements] will slowly. of serving yOU proposed week common Alkaloids the APA. level something 10 days in supplement single “If standard food this is to begin dietary week. 1’ FDA’s use dietary Ephedrine its Congressionally establish suggested 38: take withdraw to suggested the dose to for Containing higher expression way of supplement) going than and violates containing II much clear safest alkaloid a FDA must it is ultra Supplements the FDA exceeds supplements rulemaking kind ;Dietary must The FDA of what in order whether were the to those following RE:Docket label No.95N-0304 instructions whether they Dr. Lori cases Love what Mr. cause were ;Dietary Supplements or abusing taking a consumer these ephedra themselves, so we could Love, and we actually samples where consumer was were reactions at do in many the II pg. 119: “I do not have that data been able to the time the over only collect of l-to-5 formulas is in there?” we’ve at have else analyzing which dosage, what ll...we have using formulas, low you 107: Vol. II pg. of the Love, Vol. form because, where we’ve using at Because been the of standard 107: serious per the that in hand the weekend.!! a relatively few sample the injury and I’Dr. Love, adverse serving as to how able that be I have events able to many of a question below of the ephedrine those time of FDA re-propose a new Rule. People on the ephedra the median alkaloids, out of herb ephedra is unavoidable same the available attack may buy engage in an intense know do total of 12 August, ——— as exercise 1997 have due many people shovel one PDT; to this error, the who put common are eat and drop page 14 dead. and conditions etc., may however, in place and at risk a high the conditions ignorance, you was that.’f re-convene of in mandated diabetes, other snow, regimen, 4:1OPM analyze contraindications, regulations and to corrects what to the consumer Rule, hypertension, For example, a shovel the that they that data few samples Congressionally misuse applies products. the our relatively able Some no matter problem be withdraw disease, herb. only and meet labels expressed the sample conclusion don~t as cardiovascular use to must a new who we have injury failure proof, We haven’t to collect reach 9. 107: of course, this of II pg. 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Vol. serious Dr. Lori such the Ephedrine used.” milligrams value drugs (FDA), Vol. Israelson, “analyze were Containing and widely of heart fat meal People or who RE:Docket No.95N-0304 don’t know foods and other mechanisms. those they of conditions, list small and rather any of which FDA the an has at Advisory OTC pseudoephedrine, from and they we~re dietary and response that anyone going to containing Version have could be However, without we favor shield type so in the education consumers for for for their actions. the them, 1996 participants the to use for to thus meeting ignore of of the ephedrine which products from consumers thinking with (Vol. I includes weight pg. They loss) , from in OTC. the OTC follow up after all, “Currently, So, what market? Would in being similar also alkaloids, from ephedra?’1 Yetley on are, 47): are used is banned derived focusing This OTC they responsibility during phenylpropanolamine the market? supplement these Fong if ephedrine Elizabeth really used product.11 products, OTC be of these why their associated as one or more long they the not warning dangerous points drug H.S. are also Dr. all and it. is and phenylpropanolamine pseudoephedrine removed so is told (in Harry happen only sugar and ephedrine. pseudoephedrine would this responsibility several phenylpropanolamine Dr. done reactions in using Alkaloid: conditions realize a you have that high should not to read It Committee of adverse OTC may That risks. eat medical for personal representing FDA FDA glass Ephedrine glycosylation Perhaps made room from taking The alkaloids be the OTCS) product. consider them Drug issue of that 10. is one before can to be some the to excusing buy chronically conditions. a magnifying has than believe fact for Containing hyperglycemic containing warnings use need the with label medical need There the via see a physician of you sale a may “If you are not sure whether added: the diabetes People ephedrine those Supplements themselves on (including one have damage given ;Dietary (Vol. today I pg. is not 47): the 1’1 think drug that issues, but what the issues.1’ of Dr. Yetley can walk products of 12 August, the on the 1997 dose basis 4:1OPM FDA evades a supermarket containing restrict products into of the ephedra or PDT; drug alkaloids. length of or the of safety, page use it 15 is of a important store and If the FDA ephedrine reasonable RE:Docket No.95N-0304 question why these be restricted. of ephedrine (Note, the containing of content again FDA. used that provide do not consumers for may some at alkaloids than Dr. Irwin huang and give effects that are drug sought using Vol. I defer will without a were (Branch alkaloids or the issues or the bias on the dietary set doses many such ephedrine perverse plus result of that ephedrine that of 116: comparable on Love, the side on a year-to-year ephedrine 116 “I don’t Drugs on basis products.lt have [FDA] this is of ma “...Dr. information even there the dangers dangers pg. more data of FDA) total containing l’...1 feel II from no of dietary FDA doses the II pg. people of products on the legitimate to much the consumers, a lot about recorded, are political ephedra bit (FDA), Vol. there by Drugs by 115: Vol. little drug. supplements. knowing Ziment, as have higher II pg. as containing OTC with like times question energy in the dietary reports Love There up actually Unfortunately, OTC did us Dr. Lori supplied or available end Dr. can and loss in that we are hearing perhaps in adverse the 24 mg. ephedra ephedrine dosages, Ziment, drugs.” 6 phenylpropanolamine ephedrine orthodox to may they if benefits higher consumers a disconnect the or theophylline to typical up also phenylpropanolamine alkaloids a brings weight turn pseudoephedrine of Moreover, supplements 3 Alkaloids not contain a caffeine and about Ephedrine would OTC products phenylpropanolamine This the effects, of theophylline, contain alkaloid supplement.) some pseudoephedrine or Containing similar that 120 mg. products ephedra Supplements with too, OTC pseudoephedrine part others, plus Moreover, ;Dietary that on data that.11 essential subject at the meeting. in whether ephedra the alkaloid FDA regulates containing the dietary supplements. Dr. Jasinski you look much at the greater estimate, as it’s and deaths. Version DAWN data a public pseudoephedrine shows (Vol. I pg. two that health ephedrine, when the or three Could you yet you DAWN data times the 1997 quoted, problem, you go through of 12 August, Ilwhat I don’t 99): 4:1OPM two is if pseudoephedrine to three control, which was incidents used and that?~l PDT; understand page 16 times you for was by my exempted the emergency basis rooms RE:Docket No.95N-0304 Frank Wickham (Texas “Yes, Dr. Jasinski, based upon (Such the ephedra political products would Then, stores stores pressure money cynically. Mr. the politics Here marketers the a drug stores I pg. the OTC recent sale trade past of of the dietary pharmaceutical FDA without alkaloid be upon in DSHEA oriuinal to the bear safety dietary 99): of supplement “...the health products. their money if you II...1 think is concerned, has of containing an food The drug by selling want to look at that is part of alkaloid supplements interest dietary must impinge concerns upon OTC carefully products. its and in is no FDA bias containing might the supplements We there explicitly between alkaloid products. that stated yes.!l ephedra cold ephedra toward In the that the the sales of the Committee drugs. must withdraw suppressing decision brought 100: to be sure FDA will products, offering FDA policies and conflict pseudoephedrine-containing examine * ~ politics?ll clear of ephedra ~ make cold Vol. see sDonsor (Vol. I pg. as far as the market we 99): decision ~ and pharmacists Is this Wickham, ~ political ephedrine-containing pseudoephedrine-containing this ~ I pg. Alkaloids and capricious.) said selling the Ephedrine of Health) (Vol. standards in OTC products be arbitrary with can different Dr. Jasinski make upon Containing added) Placing alkaloids Department brouqht (emphasis FDA. Supplements that was g result pressure lecrislation.” upon ;Dietary which the Rule extremely considers and re-convene relevant this information, essential data, and make a new issue a new rule. 11. loss who or energy) will take knowing limits as Reducing how they will more much dose to to should government them an effective in increased try respect) perceiving below result they should l~fakel~ or warnings, the get take and, the as to be risks one may equally the of 12 August, 1997 4:1OPM PDT; 17 people seek the (not daily instructions ignore Ilfakell or page or use well. Version those they serving also (for weight for results perceiving propaganda, level not the safety useful as RE:Docket No.95N-0304 Many consumers familiar with consider the consumers is to credibility the FDA’s this, FDA choices must if the dose to ignorance among than the a source surely fall Rule, corrects of more answer but, of FDA The on FDA’s whether information. on deaf ears. re-convene this consumers alternative rests reliable ‘Ifooll’ and a perfect consumers that maximum not education millions the and will supplement will may with people. withdraw a new conclusion the levels It is not on and message, of them “advice” like Better answer. dietary consider government low it is far better impose to consumers reach best FDA be to be ignored. considerations. society, attempting to be, answer by Alkaloids will especially arbitrarily the Ephedrine products suggested something to not is the in a free of are perceived safety information dose herb consequences, dosages and the Containing ephedra a misleading disinformation, Setting not, label lethal use period using above entire contraindications Supplements already doses potentially about ;Dietary error, the If Because committee, and re-propose a new Rule. 12. Caffeine of caffeine found 1984) bias in adults. That must in toxic withdraw a new conclusion dietary that in is about 10 NO-DOZ Stimulants,” OTC ephedrine in overdose the Rule, is free JAMA as is (Pentel, 252:pg. (120 is caffeine. re-convene 1 gram same tablets. products than than the the from arbitrary supplements-and We have ephedrine, examined published phenylpropanolamine, to the FDA~s proposed 63, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 73, We concluded with or of greater 1902, mg. per Because Committee, and capricious in favor of OTC drugs, reports of adverse and a new Rule. 13. exhibits doses coffee theophylline against Oral Over-the-Counter FDA re-propose with of is even more this, reach cups of The tablet) of may be toxic in ten “Toxicity toxicity: that most and pseudoephedrine rulemaking, including 56, events that are 60, 62, 100, and 128. of the adverse events were associated abuse: Reference Version 68 concerns of 12 August, 1997 a 28 year 4:1OPM PDT; old woman page with 18 a three week RE:Docket history and No.95N-0304 of ;Dietary progressing orthopnea. for 8 years She shortness admitted to try she reduced tablets, after which her of 25 mg. of ephedrine overdose; it is possible congestive been an 67 concerns heart quantities clear of ephedrine immense ephedrine psychiatric 80 tablets This onset this to 3 80 tablets is an immense experienced why of woman by users didn’t die after what dose overdose, old ten developed taking large compounds for energy. It using it appears as she was years who of she was cough housewife but taking medicine three daily to have bottles at the is of an time of who was He had referral. Reference a 66 concerns cough progressively mg. in part containing containing drinking tolerance tablets the worsened. Alkaloids fatigue, before (!) a day. the cough, ephedrine from rapidly a 32 year failure exactly taking intake symptoms at least 25 mg. One week daily that dry Ephedrine so much. Reference not taking is 2000 mg. explains from taking to her Containing of breath, to lose weight. symptoms of ephedrine Supplements a 36 year medication increased more than old insurance containing his a bottle ephedrine. ephedrine a day, agent intake each of until which he was contained 400 of ephedrine. Reference 69 intracerebral “speed, “ concerned hemorrhage containing substitute for had IIspeedll in used composition revealed illicit of the a 20 after year taking old man who an unknown ephedrine. It was drugs, as amphetamine. the pills, no amphetamine, such past but though clearly did urine not drug methamphetamine, suffered an quantity of used The know screen as patient the on a exact admission phenylpropanolamine, or caffeine. Reference had both pills used (each consumed Case 23 70 concerned large pill three quantities contained case of the 15.3 pills (150 mg. 2 had consumed 10-20 of the pills unfortunately Case for 3 suffered its victims, events, including Version of 12 August, exercise a same mg. 10 of the years! reports. PDT; 1 and (153 to 306 reg.) daily for berry from all Case at once result and emotional containing ephedrine). of ephedrine) can one and two ephedrine of ruptured 1997 4:1OPM Cases aneurysm many excitement. page 19 which, commonplace RE:Docket No.95N-0304 Reference become ephedrine 2,250 dosage (450 mg. of ephedrine during days he had over 26 the past a job ingested each year five old to her 30 mg. the hospital, twice of developed he a night) total before of asthma. who The days taken man to had (a total of her tablets three to have day Alkaloids who 20 years, a in a bakery. in the woman containing times admission (30 mg. holding Polish exacerbations a Ephedrine questioning five before ephedrine while old under ephedrine) concerned Three awake year Containing of up to 15 tablets, 82 taking a 54 admitted of ephedrine!) psychosis. Supplements of ephedrine mg. Reference started She quantities recent keep concerned psychotic. increasing most 86 ;Dietary to amount admission of was 750 mg. Reference taking a daily several weeks restless and personality using may have herbal of using and clear, been in this huang herbs even problem. with fresh other be Ma huang human dietary before used in the problem having the FDA, of old to get experienced ephedrine he suggests that greater the be was it than developed ma huang. associated in Pearson and or may fields require before of matter grown oxide, who use plant of their do this woman uniquely Any ethylene have the ionizing licensed sale, the (and many raw herb radiation products. even ma fertilized Shaw that with if it Most is not order. Americans strawberries, at year with may manufacture in the purchase imported 33 a problem heat, he been After began substantially formulators) specified as a Commenters suppliers of and loss. he time, had instructions. Asia feces. with number amount who weight ‘~greater amounts!! in general. herb newspapers amount association reputable A The is not man amounts,!! mania. supplement sterilized for that the from old At concerns Unfortunately, or supplement in the label hepatitis year sleep. but 128 45 ‘Igreater an excessive Reference a diet couldn’t recommended acute concerned changes is not that 100 were recently reported in national developed hepatitis as a result of causing something of a relations since the public public blamed the FDA eating for the problem. Reference Version 56 concerns of 12 August, 1997 a 14 year 4:1OPM PDT; old girl page who 20 took 15 to 18 RE:Docket No.95N-0304 capsules of a ;Dietary mg. arrhythmias her total 15 capsules, caffeine (doses toxic), of controlled changes disturbances in were safe hypertensive trend in the a drug which The has and present If dangers.” Reference evidence however, might heart chest pains containing Version three 50 mg. of 12 August, is a very as of to three first after said after an not taking intracranial letter that neurological abuse or illustrate only an of 1200 mg. the addiction. its in amine, low potential dosages, frequently. patients that after case, developed a 24 year ingesting PDT; page clinical ingestion acute a phenylpropanolamine, 1997 4:1OPM was made sympathomimetic available more had but of of of significant.” produced weak an upward population (a total end The effects show who with a drug serves injury hours girl some controlled larger 60 mg. rarely in pseudoephedrine to hospital the Mild detected. did previously at that statistically significant old diagnosed be abused The phenylpropanolamine. a admitted becomes 62 concerns of was found medically studies 17 year status ephedrine pseudoephedrine a only achieved case, be medically retention to be clinically note it in release in which, was authors Because not our pseudoephedrine has complications. of may parameter. statistically rates, to symptoms of 12 months She pseudoephedrine) “Pseudoephedrine more authors urinary majority concerns The and may prove containing hemorrhage. took 3000 mg. or result sustained without abuser. not significant “while at self-poisoning 20 tablets of only patients, The cardiovascular pattern or heart 71 she sustained-release taking did any parameters Reference to be the for these of cardiac If risks congestion. in patients hypertensive attempt nasal that pressure developed mg. of mg. recovered. 1000 mg. 50 of ephedrine, of patients sleeping concluded She potential administration significant appears 375 mg. concerns for subjects she alone hypertensive “pseudoephedrine on blood was and gesture. which 25 Alkaloids of phenylpropanolamine. 122 pseudoephedrine authors dose caffeine and 750 mg. Reference male from as a result, Ephedrine tablet) caffeine, of in a suicide phenylpropanolamine, Containing (per containing product 200 ephedrine, Supplements 21 old single 4 woman of had capsule mg. of RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary chlorpheniramine, and to be considered that than the Cases 0.2 the combination eight taken were phenylpropanolamine, who of 8 mg. ingested of for her containing was a approximately and 31 2.5 each 200 caffeine. of of mg. of schizophrenic 40 tablets, mg. two had mg. and old ought injuries. 50 year Alkaloids rather Patient of abuse. chlorpheniramine, three It substances, responsible cases Ephedrine alkaloids. of these each phenylpropanolamine clearly containing 50 This is abuse. Reference brought to 63 the associated contained 75 mg. The amount total not have a old two was history of She been taking taking of was taking and not history which that of caffeine. This specified. with of was capsules 200 mg. a sympathomimetic was dizziness, hypertension, was who palpitations She had no prior of phenylpropanolamine she woman tinnitus, breath, medication. black episodes to stand. had without year of inability but 43 after shortness and controlled a hospital disease, should concerns with diaphoresis, heart clearly Patient isopropamide. mg. was capsules Containing of belladonna mg. phenylpropanolamine, two and three woman Supplements woman her history of hypertension. Reference obese woman, symptoms concerns was admitted after The patient drug 65 taking experienced year any drugs old prior along drank man, to admission. hours prior caffeine, to to a grand with three to blood alcohol This man eventually high dose alcohol, mal He had taken was 5 mg% died along in with the identified caffeine, Version as 200 man “pick-me-upf’ mg. of 12 August, of 1997 doses ingested legally This two PDT; three been a 26 hours to four 200 mg. drunk of combination and 22 200 50 of ephedrine, patient capsules, containing page level). The third black ephedrine, 4:1OPM eight of caffeine, abuse. capsules have of phenylpropanolamine. the drug No patient, whiskey hospital. high who old second of and 50 mg. was year The she might contained (5 times old “congestion.” capsule is clearly 17 for capsules Each year at the hospital. whether ounces 18 neurological two black and phenylpropanolamine a seizure an with Comtrex R of six One, hospital the Comtrex. of ephedrine, His the tablets admission. 25 mg. patients. so we do not know scan was done, using two three later mg. mg. of of RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary phenylpropanolamine. Reference reactions This 73 (ADRs) is a 1990 been reported America. Many such cases legitimately [OTC after ingredients, or PPA was of PPA of were severe. compatible common with PPA 142 this 1981, a adults deaths ADRs in company reported time (1990), three FDA advisory another study cited for hospitalization risk or using who had 60 factors a heart sympathomimetic reach consideration FDA claims . suggest FDA a for may new the must withdraw information 1997 upon, in the prescriptions of no known of heart disease, pseudoephedrine. normal the corrects in the adverse page In alcohol, that PDT; paper drinking Rule, and re-propose 4:1OPM this used coronary “pseudoephedrine, implicated conclusion to depend of 12 August, be most with of had that million incidence man history he in or stroke. of smoking, that that to be safe. 200,000 60 mg. be products 9.5 of PPA old PPA fifth increased year taking showed agent, no or family after authors spasm. ..“ Committee, Version attack The coronary drugs, the are should that arrhythmias, 28 associated mentions judged of over eight reactions using had and no history examination arteries. a were paper PPA ADRs the most publication found concerns recreational Subsequent that products After headache the a review for hypertension, Reference cardiac of panels here, PPA-containing making An symptoms underreported) research the drugs. cases. adverse this At U.S. combination hemorrhages, of consumers after involved due to stroke) aids, 15% 85% [reported] severe In fact, diet attributed only the period. OTC in North products, of the effects possibly 1965, additional of discussed of millions 25 year the PPA intracranial the (though using 82% with (mostly While with side Twenty-four marketing were amounts, “Since contained a third hypertension, to the tens during in about drug Of ADRs versus often along frequent ingestion.” compared consumed most acute product adverse 69% of these sold Alkaloids and died. 1965. go unrecognized. PPA non-overdose The since of OTC products taken and eight serious, drug was complaint. seizures, with The Ephedrine reported prescription] consumption drugs. ingestion of in 85 studies, may or prescription overdose review stroke for phenylpropanolamine have occurred Containing man had a large 142 ADRs to Supplements initiation re-convene this of the lack reaction a new Rule. 23 a of cases RE:Docket No.95N-0304 14. light We have of the paper Reference 43 Suspected Drug ~ ;Dietary Supplements considered on how data Reactionsls presented to evaluate ~~Approaches (Jones, Post-Marketinq the in Strom, Surveillance, Containing adverse by Evaluating Velo (eds): York: the drug to New Ephedrine Alkaloids FDA in reactions in Causation Druq of Epidemiology Plenum Press, 1992, PP “ 103-113: The assess For limitations the degree example, Requiring Table event could For of caused example, and effect the attacks Naranjo provides strokes using in the the not provide Committee on this background it virtually adverse the events background incidence. Food Advisory Committee know that whether occurs.” (Such cardiologist Lake children The the says FDA has consumer substance may not be what used the example, Version for is Dr. (Vol. when the instructions, of 12 August, the of same at “,..we as the need to spontaneously Michael Vincent, a in Salt 8,000 sudden, unexplained deaths it has A FDA the 210) product was appears 1997 4:1OPM information who is inappropriately simply to little consumer about I pg. which events, of Medicine truthful Love of incidence than G. Advisory School taking according greater products. year.) that The millions noted 119): as of Utah took. took. product any example, are example, perfectly they reported label admitted M. (Vol. II pg. each actually (by, asked are and adults the Chassy For there whether Bruce exist. that types As incidence data these or about meeting events Food or lower Dr. which confounders. containing higher at the University City among was know the versus causes such the Data about effect to of to of of of probably alkaloid to and refers incidence level Types alternative information impossible reported cause population ephedra did and to association. 10 questions question is a background FDA making of difficult mere Algorithm to assess This it very versus 5 is: I!Are there event?” and make a series can be used there individuals The cause Question have heart data 3, that association. FDA of Judgement adverse of the this label said “And apparently to PDT; be in page abusing large stupid assumed on what doses) behavior that the when consumer instructions. the adverse used the 24 For events according majority a of to the RE:Docket No.95N-0304 individuals where on pg. Vol. II verify that mean that’s that they we have 120, a very an believe There Supplements evaluable Dr. or any other took you would ;Dietary Love data.” says you that question. over-the-counter Ephedrine (emphasis “Are information difficult Containing added) asking if our patients If the product on pg. told X value to verify II 107, few samples where consumer was analyze that.” could not (as, for dosages This Dr. we’ve using Dr. the dose Love the how the median fall very broad range of very median. deaths. or This Did they much high claimed about there and the standard deviation. Moreover, Jones “.. .a fixed work weight loss by indicated defined and most only 86 have proposed get new their Version followed rules. rules of 12 August, his in Europe FDA that the took per had and doses during because 1997 is being treatment necessitate reactions, stopping information of 4:1OPM the PDT; the before page effect to 25 on the It would average based mainly approved for by many as Danish data which were therapy, issuing in a big not a small out period. ..!! The FDA was political, have (Vol. I pg. touted available. a two-year that been not do the the combination adverse does respect supplied at Naranjo levels? has FDA serving). A a large with to place eg., to the committee which We suspect had the able or do they dose colleagues up on this out high reported reportable daily that distribution. have Then be of doses, important if the effective as reactions of 9.6 million should and indications safest could 149): relationship events average ephedrine/caffeine Astrup 107) milligrams the at especially useful Dennis sample dose-response 20 to a relatively and II pg. a bimodal dosages dose the more the injury adverse of only answering question 8 of the dose-related?” A median amount been on the the value have 275) that the particularly occur the (Vol. on of range is is of on the distribution in a narrow percentage the information II...we have admitted many important for IIWas reaction Algorithm: doses you [dosage], consumer to collect time information example, any says able the is provide Love been at provide below I them.” is a need Vol. can us? take. However, Dr. Lori Love of the FDA noted (Vol. II pg. II...we cannot verify in many cases what a consumer used.” . Then we give patient at Alkaloids their rush scientific FDA to or RE:Docket public No.95N-0304 (heated are FDA extracted added it on so of Question adverse drug on proof available at suggested it, how you you outside from supply Then number Version we of compared to the herb. “Did reaction (Vol. that of the that job of without re-convene Rule, corrects FDA reported poor the I pg. the association withdraw human the meeting mere conclusion to were II people be in the Advisory of on Vol. an awful poor additional rush quality Committee II pg. a report meeting this error, to get these of the data would information, to And, strongly as have and submitted we this data have you it to at 196, Dr. Kessler agency 4:1OPM this will PDT; over work page “I intend have to or report review?” to do weekend meeting hard 26 the the and agency a peer committee says made, the taken Love: collected you’ve within even Dr. you 158) : “We, of course, you the asks how conclusions to 1997 data, similarly, analyzing of 12 August, your review (Vol. II pg. that on internal committee pg. 158 Dr. Jasinski it and what this information Vol. and put in extremely an and when Love 4 percent a a pot for ephedra Dr. as into it, asks: But have comments. agency? answered the on Drug prepared ad hoc but as whole Committee when interpreted the Dr. Love a new huang is prepared Algorithm done alkaloids used absorption ground FDA must seems submitted this that, hence ma manner might evaporated a tea only ephedra products the it, usual consumer a carrier causality collection you on in has issued, the example, II. ..have put faster Advisory FDA in these For much rechallenges FDA rules the Alkaloids a new Rule. proposed suggest how Naranjo Food reach The 15. huang re-administered?” of causality, and re-propose ma boiled swallows between Committee, the FDA extract the events. discriminating the get a person at the reports Ephedrine in the of the much of is not you of how water, That #4 when stated have and tea how much case Instead, Plus when reappear Containing a ma huang know the a concentrated absorption 202) to in a carrier. form the as methanol ! prepare to determine tea. consumption has not ingested traditional and did in a pot) actually Supplements considerations. health, The ;Dietary here.” promised get to to a a RE:Docket No.95N-0304 decision soon after about the report What the FDA l’intend[s]” part of the not “intend” rush here advisory do it. arbitrary more than One now Committee, reach political a new not FDA, whatever is supposed to be the judge Analysis There the report the American medicine of inadequate Michael Rush director of commissioned underlying 191 adverse Clinical these Summaries at Tab events at the he categorized events, Food that for information, lack possibly report of related, to the transcripts. summarize his for questions. Dr. Davidson also evaluated Version 13 were and on Vol. he had The ought sort to another of have by an independent of 12 August, 1997 4:1OPM and Research. five 4 minutes detailed Of the 191 the scientific group. 27 unknown were Davidson’s the meeting minutes were breakdown by events, 22 Dr. of Event all 8 were 59-69 page the case of serious performed PDT; Center, related, about 3 or careful, been 84 of of analyses related. only fellow professor meeting. the I pp. consider (see Adverse remotely is Then to and to ephedra, probably Unfortunatelyr report. Of 7 were Committee considerations. detailed Committee were not Congress, to review summaries not related 34 Rule. to the science, for Clinical 84 as serious. he determined on Medical by the NNFA Advisory FDA re-convene assistant He gave F). longer meeting Luke’s event as is required a physician Center was files the Cardiology, Dr. Davidson in Reports at M.D., of the Chicago the influenced no of time a new Events Presbyterian-St. of M.D. time Davidson, College at medical was of Adverse is of political Davidson, does Committee politically is based re-propose not a FDA some the the Rule, that said FDA has behaved Kessler withdraw and Michael 16. their added) were the least using amount conclusion considerations, at manner, David FDA must do the job correctly. Apparently, that Alkaloids Dr. Love review considerations. that FDA can take Commissioner, that and peer suspects a fig leaf to cover Ephedrine (emphasis review comment. and capricious Perhaps decision. report for public Containing committee.” and the peer to do? That record to this Supplements is due to political a grossly little ;Dietary FDA, to allowed done too, by and RE:Docket No.95N-0304 Michael ;Dietary Davidson, Dr. Davidson’s the Chicago is the drug, and that of more occurring during the Foods received by evaluate the the FDA on and Dr. the the whether states reactions the adverse National event reports products are food, investigator by dietary they the Davidson “retained to review Davidson adverse ephedra-containing ascertain for as a principal was of Dr. trials in evaluating He recommendations associations and supplement based to trade on appropriate rationale.” Dr. Davidson reports based Adverse (Vol. I pg. on Event standard members’] case underlying files 191 serious case and 107 not that unknown Summaries 191 I found to be serious.” 13 were not related lack of 22 were possibly at 84 of “Of the to ephedra. information. Tab event event reviewed F I also adverse categorized the adverse “I have In addition, of these for related; criteria.” materials. files, ‘II evaluated 60): FDA Clinical [Committee found trials. Alkaloids In addition, of which industries. trials Association above. clinical experience 200 clinical Nutritional these products Ephedrine 59) : Research, performs 10 years’ Containing are cited Clinical nutritional than medical for director, he has over (Vol. I pg. qualifications Center medical M.D. Supplements of the your reviewed the summaries. the events Of to be 84 serious events, I classified eight Thirty-four I as were remotely seven were probably ‘lSix deaths were possibly related, and related.” Dr. Davidson associated provided with @ e~hedra. consider consumption @ six possibly deaths sudden death all three were due [error ~ toxic doses strokes. individual who had was a fatal internal cases, ~ carotid with of of This deaths due to on autopsy in due that multiple other occlusion. of 12 August, 1997 4:1OPM ——. .—— were be stroke] on in a 44 year PDT; She page to — “Of the associated was atherosclerosis occurred artery present had 28 to deaths a in supplements female a strong occurred autopsy. old M related added) three possibly who was using artery were (emphasis were should information deaths ephedra, the these enouqh ~ eDhedra.’l Two One that ~ abnormalities male basilar stroke ~ 61 associated and cardiac to pg. assessment. individuals. and VerSiOn I ~ in transcription. an obese left Vol. very Another due to a strong RE:Docket No.95N-0304 family history individual of death Apidex, associated Containing sixth from was possibly a seizure drug deaths Ephedrine associated was for weight occurred Alkaloids also on Al 1 10SS. on the high dose products.” “There were ten cases ten cases, four, these The a prescription six possibly ephedra Supplements strokes. whose phenteramine, of these ;Dietary ephedra. In another provided myocardial infarction, to In all three angiograms were my judgement, an of these not there In high-dose not three enough with of ephedra infarction arteries. ephedra to cases post-myocardial coronary Of related was association reports, normal infarction. were assessment. possible consuming myocardial reports, make a revealed individuals in three information exists. of non-fatal All ‘ three in combination with caffeine. “ ‘lThere were were unrelated products. In available for cases, reports or remotely four me four individuals to of prior dilated left remaining the were lupus associated cigarette over but on oral with smoker, and before a positive containing history of were 16 remaining ten products exists.” associated case of source premenopausal the of these suffered as was use of on the seizures. Of two of noted as having a possibly and one was on the product being the high-dose a for hemorrhage. exception a The was remaining intracerebral inhibitor --were emboli. of these was with At least is unknown women patients --the a male diagnosed three these hyperlipidemia women. One other cases, involved possible In reports seizures of seizures a neurologist, Version stroke the All woman ephedra products.” “There majority she lupus a One contraceptive one was In ephedra cases information hypertension and the inhibitor. of these with Three ephedra-containing enough contraceptives. smoker oral to evaluation. stroke. as strokes. not possibly involve cases, a year one the cases to be a cigarette positive cases, significant to non-fatal related an ten ventricle five women make association had diagnosed of additional a possible “In these 17 occurred in or an abnormal I made of 12 August, —— of individuals EEG only a limited 1997 4:1OPM page cases, with on follow-up. evaluation PDT; these As of these 29 the either a I am not cases.11 RE:Docket No.95N-0304 l~In summaryr exposure to possible these are These greater effects “TO test mg. per panel, do reviewed the less the of the the were possibly related inhibitor, and had the These recommended dose associated of with there to the was product. 55 year products the events, ephedra had old I product account these two below working but 42 serious only events one a positive female for adverse I mentioned also in products.” products, only are products. adverse Of were who a reviewed, pressure, products events. are symptoms of the These severe occurring ephedra a stroke other I blood low-dose adverse products, who in ephedra-containing low-dose woman that ephedra-containing 15 mg. per dose. of all with and seizures.~’ events rate toxic associations dose-related, significant events than 7% the Alkaloid infrequent ephedra-containing be that on young of to is a adverse approximately that which have one-third events appear the hypothesis not containing effects of only products dizziness. in the high-dose dose, be increases and side frequency to Ephedrine cases thrombosis adverse by nervousness, side two possible or cerebral non-serious potential of appears infrequent characterized tachycardia, expected These 105 exception there by coronary the Containing of ephedra-containing reactions. “Of Supplements the ephedrine, characterized over with associations adverse 15 ;Dietary who was lupus had a seizure. “ “Based reports, on I have ItNumber ephedra affect day ephedrine fact adverse dosage the with those of the The are to lower 15 mg. vast reactions adverse event the recommendation dietary two main dose of supplement the trade issues that appear the ephedra and of to the the of ephedra ephedra provides majority occurred alkaloid per a margin of with both of to dose, expressed safety based serious products content that and on 60 as the non-serious exceeded these thresholds.” “Improved -——— [1995] and ephedra of the product.” equivalents, that the year’s reactions proposal per of opinions:ll appropriate. assurance “The last group are review following one~ adverse quality medical the working associations mg. my good Version of 12 August, ——. ___ ___ ___ manufacturing 1997 4:10pM practices pDT; and quality page 30 assurance RE:Docket will No.95N-0304 provide ;Dietary dosing consistency consistency dosing recommendation Supplements within product important, is that Containing products that Ephedrine batches. would I can be easily Alkaloids Because add to mis-dosed the not be permitted.” “The ephedra warnings label and labeling cautions and Davidson to my the ephedra From those products brief a very also smokers, history appropriate include those of report and effort to commission industry to pay for on the taking oral cardiovascular cavalier The to consider such or if to of the allocate their conclusion This failure failure is FDA sort the absence of FDA between 3 or 4 minutes and inadequate to any was lengthy evaluation future FDA ought industry to consider the time, energy, is going to of the the reactions causally related / adverse 4 and treat the promised to adequate response caffeine, of 12 August, in the money them in analysis, or and 1997 for for ephedra 4:1OPM Dr. on the such Committee to (rather plus manner. Davidson’s likely page FDA’s to provide a on which have than ephedra caffeine, 31 In report been merely causality) ephedrine, PDT; the Committee assigning herb reaching it has not provided to the as (but, and capricious. a timely ephedrine reason curves in full Reports before to the Committee presented the considering future, distinguished ephedra that) arbitrary a report FDA study Event FDA has promised time to only to egregious Although consider of Adverse minutes provide were without plus or to the conclusion and analysis adverse ephedrine and you.” relevant The FDA analysis indefinite is by default associated very Committee particularly matter. at some this 3 renders to produce subject the Thank only a totally to expend members be manner. failure instead, that I would relationship events. this was the discouraging going of Dr. Davidson’s details to an analysis. analyses conclusion, Committee it appears certainly is not such 66) : “In respect discussion of the Version by pg. with the transcript, The dose I would and the adverse report. report recommended Advisory rationale for questions same use with I with allowed this the (Vol. discuss officials that also disorders.” Dr. happy group instructions. against contraceptives, seizure working , the herb, and the RE:Docket time No.95N-0304 course FDA ;Dietary Supplements for the development merely brushed Dr. reactions. Davidson’s report any specific criticisms providing an alternative report the report before FDA’s arbitrary and analysis fact) Committee they and that of to either required capricious requires be withdrawn relevant were to report the Rule actual off read, reach their of (which without and or Dr. was reconvened discuss Davidson’s of 12 August, 1997 4:1OPM PDT; page to give 32 his data contrary this to very and debate. .— Version without conclusions. made consideration Alkaloids without methodology, Committee, hear, to and the Committee and essential his treatment the Ephedrine of adverse providing permitting Containing RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary FURTHER Food Advisory Supplements LEGAL Ephedrine meeting August AUTHORITY 27-28, 1996 LIMITED Vol. I pg. 12 James Prochnow, an attorney with Patton Boggs: !1...a dietary supplement manufacturer is able to inform consumer the of how function a supplement and structure promoted to prevent, disease. As a supplement clarity is or product a drug one just of of the human a effective for or diagnose, result, plain as defined its ingredients body as long mitigate statement for Alkaloids CONSIDERATIONS Committee FDA LABELING Containing that weight energy by the or a loss, does Federal affects as it is not treat or particular mental not cure that Drug a dietary alertness make Food, each or related and ‘Cosmetic Act .“ FDA weight has no loss. against authority FDA prior restraint. actions that FDA disapproves. clear, the attempt by First keeping II pg. As “Can you identify alkaloids itself? And safety issues? alkaloids risk how do also Amendment attempting ignorant not of refers to these this, to prohibition manipulate uses v. Rhode permit - uses Island and made any such scrutiny. STANDARD OF HARM level in dietary serving and per you you containing Vol . I pg. version per Can of significant First that Dr. Yetley: a safe ephedrine labeling 44 Liquormart does to strict 96 FDA’s is them Amendment is subject the FDA IMPROPER Vol. prohibit is violating peoples’ the to think identify dietary we supplements day as well should questions supplements deal of under which 141 Dr. Yetley: of 12 August, 1997 4:15PM PDT; page 33 as ephedrine with use harm?” for a total margin for of ephedrine there is ~ RE:Docket “We No.95N-0304 would question ask from :Dietary that the Supplements committee a perspective alkaloids in dietary ephedrine alkaloids that you well as serving taking third of se, and day limit.” question use under for a large ~ we’re there that is ~ individual.” conditions of including significant harm, which is a risk there “Assuming question and workinq then ~, did will FDA’s Yetley is quoted immediately Vol. II pg. Here he come that there 13 Mr. by of DSHEA Congress to proven by the ones adulterated be the the vires; improper they delegated adulteration Health the by Federal adding are to FDA of 12 August, subpart that of above added) to this that conditions at a additional instructions. a very by substantial Congress, which or more supplement PDT; noting Proof page the section ~ the FDA. Cosmetic Act was (20) . There, supplement of is or of the four talking. ..” significant 1997 4:15PM and provisions (f) (1) to Congress dietary ~ a dietary if one is the a Act, Drug Food, a new presents safety and Burden only A or Education stated This this: it and Supplements FDA. if risk below: adulterated are look you conclusion safe to Committee ultra explicitly deemed you Can use consideration probably b Prochnow: of Dietary 402 of full same effect a (emphasis ~ ask with harm?” have are there is: frequency the “The we means adverse associated @ you conditions And question and are added) authority Supplement “Section version the discusses on Safety main you are from the that gives departure amended give probably instructions Dietary you ..“ (emphasis questions. These after assuminq we levels of significant that group are a per supplements harm? or a serious that use as of safety.” harm fourth total both dietary of significant of sources, identify significant “The the from margin containing effects safety considerations is: Can you of the definition ~ identify ~ risk of adverse that Alkaloids level both botanical about about to ask the a safe for the “.. what alkaloids number least talk you think going ephedrine which suggested when identify in Ephedrine address supplements and per into account you find ephedrine a per first of can ephedrine Containing only will tests “The 34 are three unsafe unreasonable be or risk RE:Docket under No.95N-0304 conditions Secretary of an it’s public ...the lot a the full One related declares FDA, And, be to the committee. litigation which of important “We FDA, other of at that I pg. causes for things. of law and should Committee to predicated version this or lawsuits] is are only is there, when disclosed, were ingested Guilt by and association be not enough look I’m at just specifically ~ for this is sicmificant curious its definition to be a scientific will Yetley Dr. false harm Since use. on the Yetley’s Committee’s redone mandated two within how you subparts, the law.” ab initio whatever deal with neither standard the issue. assume that recommendations come it in the context.” answers that legal the the conclusions false of statement FDA the of must by charged a Committee statute, out of questions nor ordered the Committee were Congress’s recommendations by Congress’s We be harm set aside with the not a different and harm standard by FDA. Vol . II pg. to the to from the statutory to implement that the “I have us sub-definitions, committee, corrects preferred One it people supplements definition, wanted as it goes standard the 145 Dr. Yetley: really work to added) an advisory the two different standard, Formula dietary in a court has Note hazard “ (emphasis Vol. if the it is poisonous because facts records purported which ~ imminent [in the Vol . I pg. 145 Mr. Israelson: II... the standard you are asking arrived Alkaloids ingredient--since whether thirdly, of medical and is not enough harm, that an Ephedrine Secondly, in the label. alkaloid--to or safety. crucible Formula the Containing .“ revealing where Supplements suggested not ephedrine deleterious II of use HHS, health ;Dietary 220 Dr. Fong: a serious committee], problem with the last phrase ‘of significant of 12 August, 1997 4:15PM harm,’ PDT; [in question ‘serious page 35 adverse 3 put effect RE:Docket in at No.95N-0304 least but now, as other milk “With —. loss the because for. ~ a mar~in what is Alkaloids 28 years drinking effect old milk--so to my daughter, @ with, well, quite ~ risk\benefit a clear frankly, ~ when w are what m ~ safety heard use I’m of safety, — I’ve Purposes there’s safety, difficulty serious of a mar~in —- and ~ great who daughter, Ephedrine milk as well or Orientals.” m indication leaves My Containing 222 Dr. Ricaurte: issue purported had presented Chinese II pg. Supplements individual.’ as a child is a food; Vol. one ;Dietary the ~ @ heck are u @ that, don’t @ have @ ~ ~ then infinity because Q some that all @ the a have table qoinq ~ perceived have somewhat afternoon taken answer @ really this beinq left a Q@ use h this mar~in ~ a can’t benefit.” @ (emphasis added ) The that FDA has made the committee for those energy weight then of course Vol. II pg. “Question sure small for which When you risks will by concerning the efficacy it is being cannot requiring widely consider any sold: benefit, seem unacceptable. 222 Dr. Ricaurte: 3 adverse that [the effect there’s possibility ‘of in one many it’s entirely at least significant is, no, I can’t, a fair question with regard harm’ individual’]--I’m that compounds so the answer requirement, per even inevitable any evidence purposes loss. number ‘serious conclusion disregard of ephedra and this can but not satisfy I’m not that sure to the ephedra and that alkaloid se.’! Vol. II pg. 224 Dr. Kessler: “Can I just help Significant supply has those is from protein. People foods production, of 12 August, off the track death--I on milk, don’t think please? the food of products.” incorrect. thousand get seizures, kinds eating Nine to improper version don’t risk--MIs, This shock so we with people can certain a year transport, 1997 and 4:15PM do allergens die from storage PDT; die anaphylactic such as peanut food poisoning and/or page of 36 preparation due of RE:Docket No.95N-0304 People food . especially and, ;Dietary have one MIs rich thus , the Supplements as in fat likelihood a result (which of a heart which disease, our today population infectious sources is a fair number HARM FROM FROM ABUSE USE use. of not looking Vol. II pg. “The special Food and Vol. working do when not sold II pg. 343, deemed label version add as or met with a the percent of disease know from if that RATHER THAN HARM CRITERIA and Unman: of misuse that such the rather statistics, reported than correct ... the enormity products as be of a far greater aspirin, concern.” [should labeling contains of 12 August, in 1995 and Committee determined of injury do concluded or dosage not of the that at withstand that ma unreasonable huang risk limitations, of accurate warnings.” Shapiro: among other branded Advisory group conservative following: Food significant and adequate , 30 I don’t possibility reports working present 52 Mr. [DSI-IEA] to of the anecdotal special information Ilt_JThe Act group Administration The to disease, Shapiro: of these scrutiny. 20 INSTRUCTIONS room should meal, aggregation food-borne MANDATED of Alkaloids of compounds.” of Bass misuse ibuprofen 51 Mr. many label of that kinds of the heavy infectious population, LABEL at emergency and Drug sight a platelet for for may be the result reports products WITH Shapiro lose know, risk for these IN ACCORD acetaminophen harm to say 50 Stephen Also, least at for high-risk injuries the is IS THE CONGRESSIONALLY Vol . II pg. II...we must consumer food-borne eating Ephedrine attack). you area, of increases Vol. II pg. 238 Mr. Guzewich: II...if the CDC has a figure, is my Containing things~ “A dietary be amended supplement “misbranded”] directions 1997 4:15PM PDT; 21 U.S.C. or solely conditions page 37 shall Section not because of use be its or RE:Docket No.95N-0304 “Clearly warnings.” dietary supplements warning statements MOST Vol. ;Dietary PROBLEMS I pg. it was could would contemplated have and product. so BY PRODUCTS Coody, But most Q percentage also. probablv ~ ~ the half between also products appropriately say pharmacist indeed those with herb extract, Vol. I pg. IIsome were recall is the Formula actually, version we source, in those isolated, product = druq z don’t contained have caffeine that were dietary and which were purified all of 1997 it was 4:15PM are, are to herbal pure look which that were again, that ones would at are render extracts.11 of able supplements, the to products determine meaning herb or alkaloids.” them. ‘rObviously the papers, of 12 August, and distinction able analysis Department llIt claimed One.” the not indeed events (Texas those ingredient an actual in fact, that we’re ephedrine the and determine are adverse breakdown?” and that cases contain in mind and and these analyzed~ that keep purified and others 136 Dr. Culmo in percent drug ephedrine Products extracts Vol . I pg. 136 Dr. Dentali: II. ..I’m wondering if you did of them, w supplement the reactions misbranded which that ILLEGAL the svnthetic products are dietary whatever a single, associated and in l’our divisional included are it’s important that a the adverse some added) it’s ephedrine, Alkaloids that effects ARE ALREADY food SUPP lement Vol. I pg. 104 Dr. Dentali: II. . .as we’re talking about alkaloids, side THAT senior about z would (emphasis Ephedrine [by Congress] potential of the Texas Department of Health: !!. ..over the more than 1,000 cases also, Containing be appropriate.!! CAUSED 82 Mr. Gary Supplements to of Health): And first be ma admitted PDT; page I don’t -- one we can do think YOU of huang extract, and that synthetic was 38 RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids added.” Vol. I P9 137 Dr. Dentali: “Quite possibly this is not a dietary ● supplement.” Vol. I P9 “ 137 Dr. Culmo: ItBut it~s labeled as such. “ FDA already contain synthetic market; these engage in ephedra this doses Vol. 1~1 think doing, same producers point, is the the-counter traditional that to have cheaper than and to have no or attempt to to propound that the deal with exceed its unscientific, will harm both the customers. the the and and give out or be a very why they high the that is sulfate task and be do the at culled is mislabeled to to there impossible to ought wants hydrochloride and that’s that really really ought it industry FDA anything virtually FDA adulterated the probably that as for--a the this from the misbranded, would priority. like to ..” 288 Dr. Chassy: evidence these is ephedrine hurts if in only to say and thing industry done. .. I would II pg. “What likely it chooses regulations that agree--by it only Vol. the . . ●nd with It see that no from parties far labeling, made authority specific be .tested I market. one I think adulterated to is that 286 Dr. Chassy: thing. ought ephedrine instead and their The most has products ephedra parties false problem; as misbranded. the FDA capricious there’s and also delegated product II pg. clearly The to remove masquerading and other warnings. and authority (synthetic fraud/misbranding honest gun, are extract) arbitrary, and are fraud congressionally legal ephedrine high inadequate the products such excessively real has indicates a few were cases. .. effects preparation, medicine is that Those which we supplement --neither version of 12 August, 1997 few we might could preparation, dietary there but understand 4:15PM PDT; is clearly cases understand probably we were sufficient in an understand cannot understand nor accept.lt page a smoking 39 overin a in a RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Vol. II pg. 289 Dr. Chassy: !!...1 think there’s a problem problem is products are millions do a of people on power OTC AND study would FDA Dr. Love: ‘tTexas and Ohio’s data ~ identifv q label, ~ find So ..“ it reactions is not phenylpropanolamine herb) removed OTC is just as relevant reaction information respects, this Committee is noisy; version OTC better amounts of 12 August, be take I mean, that effect can of there in order taking enormous to to these get the do that for to the are per products. afterwards ~ druq, compare This ~ DATA AND ~ database OTC it’s taken rate of dru~, ~ @ Committee’s the ephedra that ingredients to reports PDT; the FDA charge FDA safe and 40 that adverse . In some from because warnings for wilfully database concealed dosage page has as is the supplements the and active from their instructions, 4:15PM adverse pseudoephedrine, as compared information dose, the principal determining 1997 EFFECT HERB supplements. information for drug it’s the OTCS reaction on ADVERSE PSEUDOEPHEDRINE, ephedrine, dietary to the OF added.) possible containing adverse means the ephedrine people IN EPHEDRA OTC that containing herb less out (which ephedra many Alkaloids and effects. ..You cannot ~ product (Emphasis reported in ephedra to FOUND includes Where database. the EPHEDRINE, 226 FDA’s ~ of and any damage. That have CONTAINING Vol . I pg. @ that doing trial ephedra CONCEALMENT ALKALOIDS ~ clinical Ephedrine expensive.” CAPRICIOUS PRODUCTS not. clear them. PHENYLPROPANOLAMINE, does of to see the adverse it is incredibly ARBITRARY safety without taking it the very clinical people, statistical study; it~s repeatedly meaningful products ON comparative means --and alkaloids these the with Containing it are the is all RE:Docket No.95N-0304 specified in FDA important data OTC on reaction reports. infamous bias tightly ;Dietary monographs. many ephedra One concludes against regulated a new Committee dietary drugs. that Supplements FDA that FDA SUPPLEMENT USERS AND THAT NO FDA ACCEPTS a interview of the manufactures million must Herbal units be of Vol. CEO Ecstasy this absolutely extrapolation market the said product. enormous. from this of supply in OF “PrimeTime Live” there Angeles sold EPHEDRA television alone in to that sold this further information convene company firm any more information. FIGURES amount its of and NUMBER his this adverse favor INDUSTRY Los Alkaloids exhibiting its Rule ON that The Is type is and DATA of which FDA withdraw Vol. I pg. 240 Dr. Ziment: II.. .I’ve got a report here in not to all relevant PROVIDED Ephedrine supplement supplements has access THAT did dietary FDA must ADMISSION Containing 15 country details guess or what the is?” I pg. “I think defer 240 FDA’s generally Dr. Love: FDA do not have this data and will have to to industry.” FDA’S Vol. I pg. “The most VIEW OF TRADITIONAL USES OF EPHEDRA 75 Dr. Culmo: common respiratory prescribed NARROW traditional disorders. or enhancement, There promoted for stimulation, use for ma huang is no evidence weight loss, or euphoria, to show is that athletic as to is commonly (over 2,000 treat it was performance practiced today.!! This prohibits version is incorrect. horse riders of 12 August, A who 1997 Chinese are 4:15PM law under PDT; the page years old) stimulating/euphoric 41 RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements influence of ephedra herb from galloping villages. that This the ephedra Chinese “What changes science filtered science at all. FDA 8, 9, serving more later, of. SCIENCE change.” since the Committee/s the scientific doing 1995 meeting data. This which is is not 10-fold a that in daily and requires 7 days. Committee of which ranged limit gone I’m quite not here from an sure on intake meeting O mg. supplement or of of 24 alkaloid is adulterated alkaloids recommends conditions mg. or more or more not to use transcript ~ records consensus containing of 1997 4:15PM is virtually PDT; page in of a AND dietary the 42 per of 6-hour the product the if ephedrine 1996 for a limit to 60 mg. of the alkaloids FDA now proposes FACA, of ephedrine 8 mg. warning showed APA, DOCTRINE suggests intake The of 12 August, already VIOLATES a dietary a label ephedrine from ’95 until and (reg.) or more labeling result total October that.” 8 milligrams if its from we’ve AUTHORITY dose version months down just OF CONGRESSIONAL daily The THAN considerations, STANDARDS than Advisory political that level OF would alkaloids misused) are aware fact that in the CANADIAN or or don’t to the telling FDA proposes that period 10 we’re it contains use it’s ADOPTION The facts drastically changes through safety DELEGATION law shows 221 Dr. Ricaurte: ‘?1 think basis The changed significant II pg. what MORE Alkaloids through sometimes FDA and Dr. Culmo is referring have any estimated steeds influence) (and BY POLITICS is compromise. without are than their the used Ephedrine 68 Dr. McCausland: recommendations we under traditionally AFFECTED Dr. McCausland Vol. (driving purposes MEETING II pg. DUI have for more COMMITTEE Vol. early tea Containing for Food on the supplements, a day. same limitation RE:Docket on the No.95N-0304 dose dietary and ;Dietary length as supplements decongestants single than repeated ephedrine has to 6 to four Ephedrine containing recently ephedrine: three Chief Ho, Bureau of Pharmaceutical at the Food that Her of Containing done 8 mg. times ephedra for of Alkaloids OTC nasal ephedrine daily, used per for no 7 days. Dr. Micheline data use Canada containing dose longer of Supplements Advisory led the Canadian FDA It rulemaking. of also Vol. meeting, may the influenced I pp. to 106-122, decide limitation some Division, of the appeared none on influenced have dosage Regulation but provided government however, by Product Assessment, Committee presentation, determination of the of the that dose. the final proposed in Committee the members. For example: Dr. ephedrine the Vol. Wang, II is allowed sustained pg. release product, the but again I am just pulling that Israelson, we’re adequate it’s Canadian being used 8 milligrams Dr. of total Canadian experience would anywhere be ephedra and respect Canadian 24 to levels, 32 materials that’s Vol. which and with something good that support and comply version of 12 August, the with.” 1997 model to That would proposal give a daily concur as And my on 6 to value of added) in dietary one without be based level to food, added) follow. it would on reservation Canadian the safe 3.1 milligrams can make the in terms with the supplements per day of calculations of per-serving the after and per- added) 191, pg. “...if 6 to 8 milligrams without milligrams, the for cases would II were crucial “...1 zero then that day factor, (emphasis with drugs per day 198, (emphasis Israelson, Mr. is that II pg. to ephedrine day recommendations.” on that (emphasis in that alkaloids, with based alkaloids. between “So, OTC safety per as a figure.” 223, proposal Vol. 10-fold 15 milligrams a reasonable alkaloids.” Fukagawa, a repeat is there of that 28 to 32 total maybe II pg. 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Appeals etc.) . have of the Canadian incorporation and documentation” ‘threshold the Health OSHA substances The recommendations States or was part organizations meetings, “generic” contaminants. as open of of OSHA’S outside of the United Court not rulemaking Canadian issue Ephedrine FDA does the the use same Circuit U.S. The the Hence, This Containing redelegate to entity. is unconstitutional. the to Congress extragovernmental by Supplements government. authority them given ;Dietary Safety 1992) for all and RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary LABELING OF EPHEDRA FDA’s CIIN]O one created a United States, [several to Supreme The Court. of the The First prohibits the misleading District (Civil Bill rules before somebody of in order example, trials information Version no outlined further the in by the the U.S. limits Constitution Pearson FDA to absolutely that & Shaw, is of D.C. proceeds with its before at this Court neither et. al, have Commissioner District the U.S. very for the proposed Food Drug a the moment. District Rule, it is of meaning then consider the There the Administration defend, we are to suppose obligations, them. and to “protect, devoid Court not permit has and uphold” that the oath and that the FDA Commissioner is of can be no excuse of taking constitutionality the 12 August, on as a effects 4:30PM PDT; clear choices. published weight it to keep public the adverse 1997 made government to manipulate ephedrine on quoting under interpreted v. his that it is the First responsibility. information of are (EGS), Unless Supreme does 7) granted labeling the of office, it proposes Us. Amendment public FDA seriously else’s The against a ritual incurs to at York lawsuit. 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(the enumerated the powers U.S. of Ephedrine SUPPLEMENTS proposition U.S. citations Constitution the Containing DIETARY Power Government 505 Constitution First Labeling disputes Federal Supplements loss peer information That page It for clinical also received 46 from the includes, reviewed aid. reports that by includes the FDA RE:Docket from No.95N-0304 consumers as in ;Dietary using OTC (which of ephedrine If there are decisionmaking, the embarrassment or trumps the Quotes from Rhode Island use cannot Supreme ~sIt is precisely suppressing freely available, (quoting from Relations, 413 U.S. llIn case after Court, and individual stress the importance consumer choices or accurate ~commercial~ they the Constitution 44 Liquormart it.1~ dangers First an v. Members of ... public the information. Court, through 77o have of us,~t on Human (1973) Pharmacy impropriety opinion for Comm~n 37 L.Ede2d. of if it is makes Virginia the will unwisely of its misuse Co. v. Pittsburgh following public (at 8) between the dangers Amendment 2553, the inforxnation of choice, 93 S.Ct. of what be deemed that commercial the case know FDA~S may in assumption Press 376, the (U.S.)) and the Pittsburgh to agency, decision to suppress that right information Court this kind information, a in or inconvenience. paternalistic a decision involved the embarrassment nonmisleading justify has to (1996 WL 241709 truthful, alkaloids and the principal norephedrine, of this inconvenient u ...a State~s same Alkaloids pseudoephedrine, factors public disclosure U.S. the Ephedrine in humans.) the agency’s the containing is racemic political then Though Containing ephedrine, phenylpropanolamine are. products ephedra: metabolize Supplements Bd., the continued to manipulating the suppression of ..l~ (J. Thomas, concurring, at 21) QUOTES FROM COMMITTEE TRANSCRIPTS AND COMMENTS Food Advisory August Committee 27-28, Meeting 1996 Vol . II pg. 12 James Prochnow, an attorney with Patton Boggs II.. .a dietary supplement manufacturer is able to inform each consumer of how a supplement or one of its ingredients affects the function promoted Version to and structure prevent, 12 August, 1997 of the human diagnose, 4:30PM PDT; body mitigate page as long or 47 treat as it is not or cure a RE:Docket No.95N-0304 disease. As supplement clarity a is or product ;Dietary result, a effective for a drug just Supplements statement for as defined that weight plain a loss, energy by the Containing does particular mental not Federal Ephedrine dietary alertness make Foodr Alkaloids or that related and Cosmetic Drug Act .“ Vol. II pg. 262 Dr. Ricaurte II...I~m surprised at the fact that why these taken compounds, products, members no that uses be surprise. no use risk/benefit FDA benefits may use, eliminated. customer. been benefits: well that is able uses distributed the satisfaction have and been and Committee considerations. studies times times day during officially of oxygen (page the meeting. uptake “Other actions yet another and is withdraw and thermogenesis example arbitrary, forbidding and develop I pg. 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FDA Committee, all give several prohibition a new rule. 12 August, to include nutrient contrary loss, not of this. dietary against the ephedrine or energy FDA’s where published referred ignorant the from reviewed were is to does of 20 mg. al) uses weight a supplement peer of the promised appetite, of FDA is not 15 of the proposed consideration et of ones DSHEA the mention disservice are further, controlled Astrup, any are receiving and effectiveness (e.g., admits uses of benefits placebo gross they Note to exclude of the safety per mention reduction energy. to FDA blind label a Committee in evaluating that common whether the requires being most or authority Double instructed be considered which as to judge alertness has Prohibiting as Note consumer mental The of ephedra unconstitutional Vol. have of potential off the table...!! 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Foods that disease; 54% for increased increase alertness; (Haworth 27% same research products 62% in just It is suffered it for a decline of by labels) or by limits decline As proposed Rule cause loss mandated use will area of nutritional prevent 31% to treat medical authors note, has come credibility in bogus ones. All a supplement uses of any harm is in problems relevance because will just FDA to the addition by FDA’s it not posed will The warnings, on bogus credibility information. label its as mandating be upon continues prohibiting to has relies dietary public this constitutional FDA (such consumer all government the public as cease great of products like of a complete lack makes the product “In fact, . ..all have been done things this this ephedra to FDA’s the Rule. in spite that (such it Vol . 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(From have dietary adequate found ;Dietary 52 a food present exceeded reactions adverse not were event firmly RE:Docket No.95N-0304 On the Canada now basis ;Dietary of misuse disallows the ingredient in traditional no permitted longer labels. Canada Supplement Committee hence “YOU seem to have versus asked I pg. “I don’t teenager who label tablets you want that the abused today ephedra alkaloids Version the to usual Act) and you proposed of the is is a plead 1997 day The ten to be one was a told instead effective rule a maximum happen in of or if the destroy dose time U.S. the of of The one of week mg. limit, the FDA’s ill warning and increase the incidence has already of adverse happened of the consequences. 53 20 mg. and supplement page 8 integrity dietary PDT; male, added) without ignorance that being tablets day 4:30PM other Canadian for it us which in a middle-aged per theory; with I know Ilpeople were the to share cases. standard ephedra not two (emphasis about ephedrine determination, industry and thereby and FDA cannot 12 August, will the do take per times Rule labels This times the you condition. to association representative) the product dosage committee relationship?rl effects yes, informal what the government about of that Could product.” want and issue a causal faster.11 three exactly the reached heart drug if you of Canada Advisory Procedure causality was and, instead reactions. of there directions three instruction (Federal this consequences. the alkaloids credibility (Dietary cases, itself a predisposing ephedra designed DSHEA serious to cardiovascular limits is FACA is warning if I heard of details FDA above food in Canada, (Canadian to lose weight If as policy and how you a lot related with of two serious 133 Ms. Ho I think, ignore its use for FDA action. national evidence did, have one was a warnings, appropriate (Administrative address cases you obviously two to cause serious Vol. set scientific alkaloids those and Constitution, Act), Alkaloids as a non-medicinal mandating a U.S. as a model on the basis being than APA important of ephedra remedies Education an of Ephedrine 133 Dr. Chassy correctly, is and can not be used I pg. herbal Containing a lack inclusion not have Act) , nor Vol. and/or rather does Health Supplements in RE:Docket No.95N-0304 I pg. 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Version 12 August, the risk of adverse events use.” heed This is 7 day another use limit, it to repeatedly start more a day Those who 4:30PM will per be dose know PDT; that much this for a week will have get any to take. receiving that seizure, of anything FDA page 58 its doing to about has 8 With take for many information Those is than maximum. consumers the less continue been than severity specifying consumers won’t stroke, FDA has not met of Rule it is reasonable dose too death, as consumers alkaloids 1997 label I’Taking more attack, warning consumers label say taking can cause mg. more even should heart that proposed a low They statement labels cause for their such ephedra warning proposed who appropriate ephedra proposed of Notice, the FDA’s to Rule starting the of reactions. 48 of the risk development effects adverse whether increased the cardiovascular on pg. and water) of that of increasing serving While burden aware the regarding supplement. to oxygen ignores of these stopping risk will and on the possibility information-free FDA well CNS iatrogenic the is the risk when requests benefits, FDA tolerance label from who take the same have been drastically RE:Docket No.95N-0304 reduced the more, dose thereby reactions low dose (8 mg. will warnings TID) have such hypertension containing applied how an FDA’s above unwarranted doubt as take “Don’t make Alkaloids take of more ephedra sense much adverse There will be and capricious the arbitrary warnings -- a loss cost of in a have serious cost use increased consumer to or more, been product is, if widely involved it used if FDA inappropriately adverse confidence have proposed a that of all you above applied a justified if FDA’s that such supplements, truly product alkaloids to essentially and if years. by real The of those warning ephedra this size to -- may with arrhythmia.’! much of on of the due Ephedrine risk Rule bogus experience to doses requires much increased be considered previous 20 mg. many severe the or a cardiac would to Containing death. casting warning subject of who thereby death being Supplements not by exactly application consumers for -- but or even The ;Dietary in reactions fully and justified warnings. On page proposes more most the (See pg. 47 Ephedrine the reputable clinical same trials with of the same also the FDA published ephedrine compound with FDA not not be only effective) respect to , the of all States and reduced. of the United aware there of are The Committee is (though not page is well a aware from lie. of of controlled necessarily on in the herb) 59 or alkaloids.1’ transcripts placebo contained data benefits This alkaloid. blind any ephedra Notice.) when is credibility double PDT; this may be more containing ephedra 1997 4:30PM above, the that Rule notice, quantities is not establishes that reviewed 12 August, that the people proposed peer amount Version show Rule (particularly supplements the may be seriously both is the principal meetings commented I’The agency that of “Larger loss) will saying dietary proposed quantities misinforms by of have weight information use statement we on the label Congress page deceptive use, FDA then 100 larger obviously common warnings As (since so other the the effective.” is the of to require misleading it 47 the that RE:Docket show No.95N-0304 that it can (inconsistently) the proposed misleading on of arbitrary, of more of FDA’s On pg. 4 and This the act. it may imply there Moreover, containing drugs cause Rule risks OTC (over and is a not which mg. with for foods of for dietary benefits attendant on to against the section this the supplements, because, Version 12 August, — 1997 that the for ephedrine 4:30PM PDT; risks. is of oral products data apply page 60 not above, supplements bronchodilator that has is and alkaloids. dietary “tentatively” OTC of section as stated are manifest.” argues here. of it per dose) FDA with risks ephedrine The mg. concept (12.5 to 25 mg. here. 25 402(a) including consuming containing under and in concludes a 402(f) (1) (A) of the act, effects, here, in on a weighing While in section 12.5 under not. and use hours) under use data no application product food or has 24 is based of the question alkaloid in favor asthmatics) exceed in drug involve mild to for drugs OTC permitted ephedra is further and ephedrine on doses FDA says: of data, 150 evaluation FTC the supplements of The warnings larger supplements for use, as stated that on reason, Notice, (i.e., harm demonstrated levels COMMENT : of equally severe ephedra dietary exceed appropriate the to these use to some no was containing applicability question to reach are 17-19 OTC drugs. not be used risk” is necessary in of the use will than contained of safety only that benefits, data not may “unreasonable that Alkaloids Indeed, on pg. more (physician-diagnosed benefits The whether labels contraindications approach require drugs that for determination the proven discussed required) the population hours, to against regulated directions warnings The bias concluded restricted Ephedrine loss. advertisement contrary considered tentatively limited An 51 of the proposed agency weight are even supplement alkaloids heavily for attempt capricious, indication every FDA/s dietary same Containing be illegal, no prescription the “The studies Notice. case, ephedra Supplements effective these would counter, be Rule In any ;Dietary the no to OTC drug application a restricted RE:Docket No.95N-0304 population with ;Dietary directions contraindications. anyone events and valuable data for evaluating abuse and alkaloids. of adverse 73, and events were FDA argues The weighing and that a result will benefits they concept of “unreasonable of the act) may risks not and benefits, necessary number of ephedrine But , in the supplements who or not. consumer is quite lost weight has dietary supplements nearly The dietary oral a “demonstratedll all dietary This FDA which then supplements 12 August, states that 1997 67, of is FDA it has of the that with including it is are these loss whether he than approved that loss. getting energy, or she to assume those “health be denied very that few and capricious. ephedrine permitted (12.5 to 25 mg. ephedrine PDT; has a risk/benefit of 4:30PM a claims,” on levels a dietary are or no are weight they weight the 402(f)(l)(A) There using a only indicating whether IIthe risks on supplements, helps arbitrary, 69, against admits alkaloids.~i will 68, based of effects, other the for foods, If the FDA is going benefit to most because. .there evaluating and attendant containing drugs adverse of the products. studies of supplements is unreasonable, bronchodilator VerSiOn of of that in section here that case energy. for The it is consumers the containing 63, drugs for dietary judge may resulting exhibits 62, evaluation effect the capable for ephedrine analysis, In events are 60, not. peer-reviewed or gained nothing analysis. for are benefits 56, question a thermogenic final that (as stated “some that published has or length Adverse of the use of the product is appropriate benefits choose. may not be considered that for any by phenylpropanolamine, or misuse harm and freely reports of abuse risk” to reach demonstrated then cause imply published safety warnings supplements indicates the Alkaloids of the OTC drugs review benefits whether dietary (exhibits that use ephedrine, Our may the adverse products 128). of the proven the risks the taking rulemaking 100, improper reviewed containing proposed 71, of We individuals pseudoephedrine 70, misuse and with and used purchasers abuse ephedra events their and Ephedrine may be purchased population) from the FDA’s dosage Containing use OTC drugs a restricted at any limited resulting provide from for However, (not just of time Supplements page 61 per consuming dose) in are RE:Docket No.95N-0304 manifest. “ Committee meeting experienced A in number both Version .—— these and misuse 12 August, —— Supplements comments consultants practices indicated risks OTC and dietary abuse —. by of their bronchodilation instructions, ;Dietary with that are 1997 4:30PM during the Committee the when of real ephedra consumers. PDT; Food page 62 Alkaloids Advisory who were ephedrine for according The containing Ephedrine members use used not great. supplements by careless and Containing to label problem, alkaloids, with is RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary AMOUNT Supplements OF EPHEDRA ALKALOIDS AND TOTAL QUOTES FROM 1996 FOOD Containing DOSE Ephedrine Alkaloids PER DOSE PER DAY ADVISORY COMITTEE TRANSCRIPTS AND COMMENTS Although FDA should total 20 we have not dose DSHEA dose, for this The most of This with is Unless safety for (which is per day is of FDA not limit realistic dose set the hereby provide allowed to by when the with limit a at further be will be and causing multiples of mg. dose used as directed. total by ignored the consumers to -- thereby = +-31 be alkaloids safety of 60 mg. the avoidable per FDA’s thereby warnings multiple causing be to consumers, take form dose consumers; label of We believe current dose per cannot ephedra by other 17 mg. mg. the accepted current common 20 a total common standards , a by in deviation 110 the ephedra in in with of food food a met that higher for 20 mg. generally credibility far not found (standard demonstrated will than a median (we consider that has is doses set DSHEA) unsafe as the than supplements FDA safer dose and and harm. Version is per limit reactions doses and -- adverse 206 Dr. Love summary consumer per limits as having dose too many I pg. as to why should the dose much per sometimes adverse 30 mg. reasonable A 20 mg. instructions, a FDA and the In the irresponsible), reducing we that though needed limits 8 mg. instead their is is comments to day, already allowed proposed Vol. on unreasonably dose record. per even by dietary a dose grossly true given reg.). but reason are a mean considered —.— proof form . are mg. several conclusion. supplements that alkaloid 60 dietary dose ephedra fundamental burden products made of 24 mg. per day, lng. per reasons limit already event used of the FDA reports the of 12 August, analyses IIwhere product 1997 so 4:50 we on had that PM PDT; products associated information we could page on how calculate 63 with the the RE:Docket No.95N-0304 milligrams at O per all way ~ ~ ephedra-containing zero ephedra vol. the over plus ~ minus products by the product in amount as to its incidence because of the nature drug individual has of is been So which for magic. going to even if we going to control and that’s not going of the of the to increase in customers switch of if from to my the deal rather with down the of by of expecting people exercise for ephedra a particular drug really that scientific for the the looking amount looking than firm, somebody’s bound to give some them sort free of behavior, day set is their that dose OTC limits drugs are any purpose at any ephedrine and 120 mg. of theophylline, methylxanthine, will FDA’ S far occure 1997 _ 4:50 lower, if to an OTC product —_—_ cannot per limit. of 12 Augustr _— more for capriciously safety consuming than difficult limit FDA mg. anyone label and way why 24 stimulant ephedrine that been to be easy.’! and 24 mg. like —— —— had I’ve pharmaceutical enough we’re reason dose available arbitrarily __ over major per contain Version event and I draw from who’s take ‘II think scientific me, actually medicines And be simply caffeine was supposedly rest to are very ethical effect A second ———— an a person that the reactions, herbal drug, effect.tl that are in the readily dosage an adverse were safety alkaloids mg. one product mean presented people adverse by looking recommendations. 8 with Alkaloids of the reports.” produced not at from (!!) One of the What relative reports they’re that ~ it. Vol. I pg. 153 Dr. Ziment II.*. the patients who are taking is The Ephedrine say. having adverse magic, range 50. associated that without conclusions standard Containing 234 Dr. Askew information impressed this to FDA doesn’t II pg. “From up alkaloids ingredients?? Supplements use, ‘1 the products consumer the approximately ;Dietary with Rule but current with PM PDT; higher a 150 dose it mg. is lacks ephedra doses page supermarket 64 per not a day only reason; no supplement of ephedrine RE:Docket and No.95N-0304 ;Dietary than methylxanthenes Supplements the Containing Ephedrine typical ephedra products in dietary herb Alkaloids dietary supplement. Vol. II pg. “If we are 104 Dr. Ziment say ma huang unacceptable want @ take counter these and the ephedra A doses in does or would go to MDs them major ephedra labels the industry teas. occurred, harm inherent Vol. II pg. “If you ~ the the Japanese ~ ~ ~ Q m that ~ minimum then should prescribe impose to by the Rule the provided if FDA original forced labels precautions. FDA’s used allow doses be regrettable the the traditionally required interaction K @ the more you had If this proposed find Rule, find that millicmams concentration tablespoons, Version of 12 August, ~ ~ A therefore 1997 4:50 take not @ took cut ~ @ w ~ averaqe = PM PDT; - Q ~ that - ~ ~ that page ~ ~ 65 a probably huanq M sets which weiqhed ~ say no matter ~ ~ ~ 9-qram 5 crams, 1.2 * and you source YOU Q A ~ ~ averaqe ~ ~ around commerce, tablespoon @ ranae the x have huanq most Q ~rams, ~ U ~ based official seen, ~ ~ ~ Q that tablespoons You will the two you you’ve seen that moderate, of Actually I’ve tonq ~ range S warns. is the only will the that huanq of values @ m E .6 percent, Then aw proximately qettinq ~ is range percent. ~ over-the- people in traditional ~harmacopeia pharmacopoeia which these myself doses because practitioners dose. ‘l “If you take what cannot legally caused can use k ~ there minimum, is route Chinese You used Q@ and ~ 105 Dr. Croom that formulas we think FDA It would be harm people eDhedrine patient the products this that in the herb. take ephedra the and no drug it would that than FDA are unchanged. few if any warnings orthodox supplements added) that lower concept the (emphasis reason to take ~ the message of grandfathered the @ ~ evaluate it is far herb create have it give products?” is that ephedra this druqs have third marketing and ~ You are tea for you take ~ w RE:Docket found No.95N-0304 most physicians com~ounds.1’ The USP for ephedra on the US market the observations Vol. II pg. ~ ~ Ephedrine ~ for the Alkaloids pure herb is at experience is between least is that 1.2 and 1.2% most ephedra of the herb 1.8%, in agreement of Dr. Croom. 172 Dr. Croom I’The Chinese [ephedrine herb itself alkaloids]. means you So Containing added) standard with from between Our own extensive available there. Supplements usina, (emphasis alkaloids. That ;Dietary I’m others, An have between average between taking not has 6 dose and traditional to justify generally of the 12 herb but use, of what to say 2 percent is milligrams long-term the use, 1 and 6 grams. alkaloids do we know for safety where are the numbers. . .l’ Incorrect math. 120 milligrams Vol. II pg. Here, Dr. content Fong states that required] the though German 1 to contains between per pharmacopoeia of 0.8 percent, to a range Dr. Fong ephedrine Commission 6 grams of 0.7 and calculates likely is the Chinese in ephedra a serving, a more of herb 60 and 219 Dr. Fong and This 6 grams of alkaloids. prescription “Japanese The dose only content, dosage and ephedrine not less of 7 milligrams refers E to the that the alkaloid than.11 to 48 milligrams 7 milligrams. it calculates [no to 12 mg. With to 72 mg. per dose. Vol. 1?.. 44 Ms. I pg. published .we containing due to also three system products Version .— —.. for by the evidence Removal proposal events, that some reporting a products containing these Bowen @ of 12 August, ._ 1995 bronchodilator one DEA being under [emphasis misuse m was not proposed were in suddenly 1997 found remove from diversion their and current in the ephedrinemarketplace difficulty rulemakings, our adverse and event products” because 4:50 use added] ~ to after 50 years to be unreasonable PM pDT; page 66 or so of use unsafe when RE:Docket used No.95N-0304 their event FDA mentions ephedrine FDA members this previously alkaloid deceptively proposed removal being was diverted the for Note, members even while removal that not as a precursor from of this Notice, previous because illicit the of the in the Rule impression reasons, data that (and failed) Alkaloids is in the OTC too, bronchodilators safety for use all it to Committee for it. false Ephedrine of products deleted proposed containing leaves FDA to supply asked Containing of misuse system? and refused Committee Supplements evidence reporting database though was What as directed. adverse ;Dietary ephedrine blackmarket methamphetamine. Vol. I pg. !Iover the mg. 45 Ms. counter bronchodilators of ephedrine, Primatene theophylline, containing and Bowen not to exceed tablets, still are OTC human pseudoephedrine is I pg. “Most 60 second so major version 12.5 the plus are to 25 120 mg. products ephedra of ephedrine. reg., and of ephedrine market. (a racemic of dose a day.11 24 mg. the (the metaabolite phenylpropanolamine Vol. on pseudoephedrine single 150 mg. containing phenylpropanolamine principal has alkaloid) norephedrine, The maximum maximum OTC the dose of dose of is 120 mg. 46 Dr. Jasinski of the concern (the drug of the DEA abuse expert) is not with ephedrine at a retail level.lt Vol. I pg. “Now, 72 Dr. Askew also OTC drugs reports the as the question.” Vol. I pg. “TDH [Texas Dept. 1995 that we time, food been raised the same products are, as to whether incidence and or not of adverse I think this the reaction is probably a 73 Dr. Culmo in October Version has are experiencing fair adverse question of Health] to the committee’s indicated reactions to of 12 August, provided that TDH oral working had 4:50 PM PDT; written group collected ephedrine-containing 1997 and on ma huang. 900 products page comments 67 reports for At of Texas RE:Docket No.95N-0304 citizens; that and 500 from thousand was ;Dietary 400 from of Containing over-the-counter food products. reports Supplements We now have injuries or ~ Ephedrine OTC druq products substantially adverse Alkaloids more events.t~ than a (emphasis added) Vol. 162 I pg. asthma ~ and other reqard $11 ~ patients, w what ~ and equated treatinq asthma have should ~ Q use of ~ Q ephedrine ~ dosaqes ti u in the the times ~ treatinq condition Q startinq equivalent w ~ that ~ secondary ~ time. four dosaqes dosaqes make lonq ~ know three those those and Z think m~. underlvinq ~ those And chanqed reasonable, @ the asthma druq. ~ their MQ on diseases) between whatever safe (expert been ~ rarely 2 think - x somethinq A@ k has ephedrine ~ Ziment respiratory who somebody dose Dr. u dose dose ~ @ ~ (emphasis ephedrine.” added) Vol . II pg. 165 Dr. Ziment II. . .this implication that hazardous, as long-term vol. fashion. II pg. “When as opposed at this physician with pulmonologist of ephedrine obviously I just than seven seven days less than days in don’t see the evidence could some be sort of for that.i’ 240 Dr. Katz I looked a to more back question, ephedrine in the for children much better I had since to divorce as a my experience practicing pediatric late ’70s and early ’80s we used with asthma. been drugs, but we It has saw very few a lot supplanted serious by adverse effects. “ Vol ● II pg. ‘rOne of working total the things group] was e~hedrine cardioactive &o_ Version 105 Dr. Croom was ~ one ~ that we certainly alkaloids, of 12 August, when e~hedrine ~ thinqs 1997 that w potentially ~ discussed laraest that 4:50 was PM PDT; in the committee You set the beinq side level seen ~ effect discussed.” page [1995 ~ the beinq most lower “. ..there 68 ~ was RE:Docket No.95N-0304 consensus also also certainly forwarded combination level, the that ~ of between that thinqs like caffeine ratio--this ~ even H of what though and Ephedrine I and is Dr. Tyler: was used fi w were ~ fi unknown there this were dose--should was Alkaloids thinqs ~ individual because data, Containing Tyler Dr. charman, Q 20/25, lack Supplements the to with aqreement ;Dietary ~ we some q felt data.” 10/15 like in (emphasis added) We agree total 25 mg. or other Vol. Dr. ephedra caffeine or per day. II pg. 57 Gordon then decided I Pharmacological Basis and I repeated milligrams per Hospital to Association’s children 12 years 12 years every Vol. of three old if a in caffeine the with and product maximum of Formulary and four ephedrine is dose hours is for a in which the their book, ephedrine ... looked listed 25 150 the to quote the from ‘For usual recommends this self dosage the every American medication in is 12.5 25 on ....‘For children safe 6.25 to 300 American “It goes at 50 to is 25 to 50 milligrams is... older, considered in found oral Formulary adult dosage ?II “Another is Gilman’s, “I then four hours. “t age, ephedrine is no dose what usual to Hospital hours. every at and ‘The dose. ‘ Hospital milligrams per of Therapeutics, ‘The usual four look Goodman’s Association’s following: three would every day mg. if there methylxanthines, quote: milligrams dose 20 mg. Peterson bible, follows per 10/15 other pharmacological as and alkaloids doses I!And I Croom methylxanthines, contains three with 12.5 to 6 to milligrams four hours. ‘t’ II pg. “Another 58 Mr. study. This 1993, Obesity Peterson and ephedrine/caffeine treatment are withdrawal from and maintaining transient have been 1997 International ‘We is safe and of 12 August, the quote: combination minor symptoms comes I in improving effects Version one conclude that and effective weight and no PM PDT; loss.’” clinically page of the in long-term observed.’” 4:50 Journal 69 “’The side relevant RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Vol. II pg. 75 Mr. Appler II I difficult find it toxicological should be basis per milligrams single experts. its dose, last ephedrine among bronchodilator October [1995 such are only supermarket any or way occuring in tablets, the ● This of II pg. 16 Mr. testimony probably felt levels have parameters of Vol ● per II pg. “What preliminary no appeared.” ephedrine walk then use into or of a misuse reactions abusers) was Review test a good were Primatene Primatene tablets were dosage. .. was serving size an for a clinical Boards study of Harvard and go through would not for these studies unless they they possibility that serving protocol the protocol protocol or going to be appropriate included at and at least probability tested, safe least 30 level. that the about 25 . .. the milligrams 25 milligrams of of ephedrine size.” 111 Dr. Ricaurte I’m puzzled on the products Version more reactions, can driven of far containing dose of users the adverse have an approved the per thousands drug and is Prochnow ephedrine per alkaloids would day, ago. approved milligrams caffeine a there of high ‘l’I’he Institutional on that them of it as.” use have significant than alone concerns ephedrine: Vanderbilt If buy per daily anyone you milligrams despite tablets that and (rather long say, by FDA and levels literally for bronchodilator store 25 AD/100 capturing Primatene population, to present to for this 20 of or [sic, the group] millions meaning lawsuits at seeing of has wish. users be Alkaloids scientific as declared alkaloids, Needless but drug they off the market Vol would reports OTC, working Ephedrine inhalation is safe FDA has tried FDA that, by ingestion total tens system available them we the substantial Not that any compromised 150 a day, products. sophisticated health oral possibly the hazard llIf that were so~ injuries a 25 on ingestion that alkaloids, Containing believe my in But recommended to that oral] Supplements by is the apparent we’ve been discussing of 12 August, 1997 4:50 disconnect the PM PDT; between the last day and a half page 70 data and RE:Docket No.95N-0304 what several long experience members of some loomed as major going of with issues ephedra ;Dietary of to the was before [1995], as a issues, prior exists Vol. are very OTC benchmark with the a they contained Special Working starting point the in the we are Group on containing of why haven’t ...if OTC products issue “...the system? the or 50-year products.” products by our certainly reporting suggested I think dosage the ephedra apparent disconnect 111 Dr. Love the FDA alkaloids. reporting is systems focusing Thus , it other is products alkaloids. The different publicity admission may be period dangers of dietary product these other when one same is, you don’t there from a single products that that other adverse and the has the ephedra has been of no FDA the OTC products publicizing those systems been use phenylpropanolamine containing reactions reporting there of ephedra other and is cannot the alleged alkaloids. a know be may well adverse actually ingested. anything so let’s what compared that natural affect for just FDA ban 1997 4:50 don’t safety a find cannot PM PDT; out plus know even to listed what the a as their else is. products and batch-to-batch profile.” competent just products be or anything lot-to-lot doing to all may potency their ephedrine necessarily variations, can have reason The You their reactions, of 12 Augustr be ingredients. can good containing manufacturer manufacturer that of Love manufacturer another the This FDA ingredients from variability compare dangers supplements from because Version the 112 Dr. Love “The containing to in alleged the reports and and ephedrine by Dr. during product ephedrine pertinent concerning II pg. on containing pseudoephedrine, source are different reasonable ephedrine, And with is Alkaloids different.” The Vol. said Ephedrine is critical.” “Of course, are has effects, it the experience then II pg. with adverse Is as committee Containing ephedrine-containing concerns use, alkaloids, the OTC alkaloids. Supplements followup what say the “we containing page 71 on consumer don’t know ingredients RE:Docket No.95N-0304 that may have Vol. II pg. lrI want don’t (but we don’t feel that are of prescribed = orthodox taking or ~ Dr. Ricaurte what either of ~ Love, this on the “I — don’t ~ side basis have —— that data . (emphasis added) no people the committee FDA did not scientific judgment ephedrine alkaloids, as important effects due no major Version ~ ~ that in adverse ~ and I still recognized or even certainly feel the danqers us are drug ~ will from a have there G danqers ~ ~ ~ ~ comparable little actually reports the bit more recorded, even on the to taking the public a different as bronchial adverse data. legitimate is in of 12 August, with or be of used (emphasis 4:50 to that relevant, to very making a containing data identified was within fanciful than the adverse dose names bronchial added) page 72 range effects names as a bronchodilator PM PDT; meeting products different other Druc$s Q members. are some products 1997 this effects of dilator, very using when There indication this indispensable by Committee sort at from It is appalling clearly particularly effects.” people on these risks on the label. @ appeared that on defer Drugs this and requested is printed but, I about give vol. II pg. 116 Dr. Weintraub 81...there are no serious adverse SO, ~ to. ephedrine And Q lot can provide information indicate reported over-the-counter hearinq members important mislead the referring 116 Dr. Love However, occur Alkaloids products.” II pg. that was nature. perhaps on a year-to-year that.” Ephedrine involved.” phenylpropanolamine. that Dr. ephedrine Containing 116 Dr. Ziment information the been e~hedrine without knowinq druqs.” (emphasis added) “Well, inform know) understand agents II pg. vol. what I pseudoephedrine disconnect Supplements 115 Dr. Ziment to follow-up dangers Vol. ;Dietary that which that may would dilation. there are RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Vol. II pg. 134 Dr. Kessler 1?...the question about safety safety are in the asking context you are of a supplement for. data quite information Vol. We are not exactly on the safety relevant the same.” system with deaths asking you today is That’s what safety in for of ephedrine to the are which intravenous ‘1..death very essentially amphetamines alkaloid we the containing interpretation of dietary abuse incidence is similar in to what out there.” Vol. 68 Dr. McCausland ItAnd I support milligrams per dose, Vol . II pg. “What safety supplements. which II pg. “God created amines as with a a certain result you are describing last amount, of the for all the other conclusion science The filtered facts don’t [1995], 25 change. 1’ through political considerations, days, or he rested at all. 176 Dr. Ziment the world there’s in seven that’s where no other the inspiration pharmacologic on the for seven reason that Amen. Version the 100 per day.” science and I guess but . ●ost death.!’ than Group’s on the amphetamines. control causing less Working is compromise. is is not for of effects it 68 Dr. McCausland changes This the their infections supplements II pg. even sympathomimetic result and as a result rare Vol . I pg. 68 Dr. Davidson II.. .if the products contain from, you to a diet. on ephedrine-alkaloid-containing cardiovascular day, asking Alkaloids I pg. 67 Dr. Jasinski (a drug abuse expert) II. ..if you looked at the data on phenylpropanolamine, looks Vol. we’re Ephedrine of an asthmatic.” But the OTCS context that Containing of 12 August, 1997 4:50 PM PDT; page 73 seventh days I know came of.” RE:Docket Vol. No.95N-0304 II pg. since in consume, what, 150 product, maybe a way, 15 pulling making the an (Federal Advisory ingested criteria, per that is a fail this FDA to require even milligrams Canadian looking a 32 experience for more This is McCausland Vol. dose, the am of just decision in accord the many with way” APA is and FACA substances that capricious 10X Furthermore, safety DSHEA does factor. the recommending, dose, which and Some of I of that is is at for that for is going total the low ephedrine 8 hearing with the when I’m here...’! sort of other close politcs that observers disgusts of the both Dr. FDA. 155 Dr. Croom “TO enhance — xanthine some at safety and daily, daily. and and most II pg. 40 Canadian “Canadian both a 10X saety combinations, not the of per model and water. 10 milligrams to release the again very Moreover, doing sustained but as arbitrary and allowed following the far Act) . oxygen alkaloids of Alkaloids added) is so Vol. II pg. 154 Dr. Croom 111 would recommend~ if I was end Ephedrine is the food, violation Committee on capricious, in also would not authorize for this and ephedrine day figure.’f (emphasis including ephedrine Containing factor, day Moreover, this per safety is arbitrary evidence. drugs milligrams admission that OTC 10-fold as.a involved, are the milligrams that Ah, Supplements 189 Dr. Wang 111 thought is ;Dietary safety~ ~ think alkaloids incrredients, ~ ~ from the ~ form, course, ~ data @ date stimulant that are MAO on Vol. II ~ would laxatives, inhibitors.fr ~ ~ ~~ (emphasis added ) We, like methylxanthenes alkaloid per alkaloids, original total Version .-—— Dr. Croom such as caffeine dose limit, whereas dose ephedra —.—— per 1997 of dose 4:50 20 105, with mg. Dr. allow a lower ephedra total Croom’s ephedrine is thoroughly PM PDT; would in 15 mg. methylxanthenes, suggestion alkaloids of 12 August, in products 10 mg ephedrine without limit pg. in ephedra pg. 105 25 mg. appropriate. page 74 We RE:Docket also agree course, Vol. “I No.95N-0304 that no MAO II pg. want to then we doses what we’re and do these kind is there that of that instructions poses It risks. Hence, single dose FDA be than now FDA) it and this and the people we’re doing, those sort case in to kind of are we 2 of quality banning we might very ephedra herb wants by products only to is the as well to quality label to those these alleged permitted dose and thereby to disappear label permitted of the benefits consumers, of using causing from and per risk the daily none possible products prove reduce not poor unreasonable total products the these market. door. last you’re for being a probably this, going we know couple and give effects, maximizing to wind of total just doing pharmacologist and looking caffeine Version to burden label reason ephedrine, milligrams reduced or down only what herb 40 to 60 milligrams psychopharmacologist the in 2 days, if we know and its obtainable is that from about of 209 Dr. Jasinski The again, levels, these meeting], in which of use so that (to the Vol. II pg. II.. .my view over meet is a ban by the back day. of I think market has using permitted of days will troublesome per cannot and FDA a substantial the number any ephedra evidence of no more and, 10-fold and If we supplement, unconvincing This Alkaloids laxatives any group Then to be the it. down restrictions because ephedra Ephedrine way?t’ banning DSHEA for doing, it. going vote us. of as a good But , the label stimulant working really ahead go and vote using no come 1995 tell go we have can for use under the industry control, be if that [since with drug whether levels milligrams, the should Containing inhibitors. see months from there Supplements 190 Dr. Blackburn recommended 10 ;Dietary that of from years it to people at about at this ephedrine this and and in terms studies that up with you can coming have take 1997 4:50 PM PDT; between page we know been done anhydrous cocaine-like .“ of 12 August, back clinical of what and get amphetamine-, 200 milligrams, alkaloids a which a dose 75 100 and 200 RE:Docket No.95N-0304 Right. Note NODOZ is like effect would experienced probably that 100 Supplements the FDA approved to 200 mg. mg. noticeable coffee just not most before, experienced adults an unpleasant reaction, have avoid one 10 to would people are at this using as to Alkaloids in OTCS overstimulating adult most adults herb before. coffee who in had the not U.S. However, in if they had and, of amphetamine. 12.5 keep the caffeine unwanted tried Ephedrine it. 15 milligrams, look of to an as Vol. II pg. 210 Dr. Jasinski l!OOOsomewhere about 2.5 milligrams to about dose ephedra already Containing An be particularly have the U.S., ;Dietary milligrams, it average in this ..is equivalent of ephedrine. dose or maximum from October range sort of of So what caffeine dose. II Vol. II pg. 1’1 think are doing loss down because for. ~ safety, and of a marqin —— g mar~in and ~ we’ve later, 10-fold, a indication leaves just already I’m not ’95 gone until from quite sure an here we estimated on what basis 222 Dr. Ricaurte issue purported that this.” II pg. ?!With the — — telling 10 months level we’re Vol. it’s 8, 9, safety 221 Dr. Ricaurte what @ with, well, suite ~ risk/benefit ~ ~ use heard are what clear frankly, when safety I’ve Purposes there’s of SafetY, — ~ ~ the @ have left really this answer don’t ~ beinq .@ ~ I’m & somewhat have ~ afternoon taken off heck are ~ @ that, infinity a perceived @ the then @ the because a have some that all table ~oinq a ~ W!2 ~ ~ marqin ~ benefit.” ~ can’t m (emphasis added ) The that FDA has the committee of ephedra made this disregard for those loss benefit, of course Version and of 12 August, any evidence purposes sold : weight then conclusion for which energy. even 1997 When small 4:50 risks PM PDT; inevitable by concerning the efficacy it is being you will cannot requiring most widely consider any seem unacceptable. page 76 RE:Docket Vol. No.95N-0304 number ‘serious sure 3 adverse that [the effect there’s Containing possibility ‘of in one it’s entirely at many least Ephedrine significant Alkaloids can is, no, I can’t, a fair question with regard harm’ and individual’]--I’m that compounds so the answer requirement, per Supplements 222 Dr. Ricaurte II pg. “Question ;Dietary but not satisfy I’m not that sure to the ephedra that alkaloid se.” And it is not the definition of harm mandated in DSHEA, either. Vol. I pg. 145 Mr. Israelson II... the standard you are asking harm, which has at that arrived which ~ definition has harm withdraw the that by dose 15 of chosen Rule, curious its definition to to charge that re-convene fits within two within the how you subDarts, the Committee intended the the ambit is that orthodox by law.!! with Congress, Committee, of Congress’s less period of time looked at the that dosage is harmful.” Vol. II pg. 236 Dr. Wang from ephedrine children. literature of safety? the OTC times because What and a That it’s of day reach will, safe I don’t level a FDA a new and re- be adults the 1997 4:50 PM PDT; used it for a that way. evidence that a 10-fold basis page and baseline if used for, alkaloid.” of 12 August, been minimal even took day always about--a see much is just per has for should I certainly I did maximum as such, in a dose and I believe I’ve margin 3 for for the orthodox, prolonged ephedrine, physicians milligrams proportionately Version simificant 231 Dr. Ziment prescribed factor b is a new Rule. II pg. “What at just specifically contrary “SO my recommendation dose I’m from the statutory FDA of conclusion Vol. look added) Because propose to sub-definitions, definition, different (emphasis must two us 77 safety again, RE:Docket No.95N-0304 It would the market fold authorize Vol. ‘lThirdly, have fail the I think there to be very in people water, tenfold Ephedrine would be on the basis sugar, safety a 10X safety that I and test. Alkaloids left on of a 10- total DSHEA margin, of concerned about athletes underground economy used manufactured daily does not either. health laws that historically and is being in, have the they now got a whole imported which those and driven watching have than coming made because We pure was that me steroids less which that’s were creating and uncertainties.” Dr. Jasinski that amazed these. pharmaceuticals both decisions passing using are problems Remember what which been made anabolic which as have people with point I have think steroids public what to be taken cautious. underground. being consider is a telling anabolic are Containing 249 Dr. Jasinski involved things had the FDA to impose II pg. been all to Oxygen, factor. intake Supplements interesting if all products safety caloric you be ;Dietary is an expert on drug abuse. Heed his warning. Vol. 249 Dr. Jasinski II pg. ‘~And I would think come a position in with going the it would to do voluntarily which better they and that It would standards. be to can this be much encourage defend would better on industry what they’re be legitimate than trying to to to set impose a policy.lr that Far better, and if it makes a rule any rule will work. than it prevents, Vol. II pg. “We’ve and got talk Vol. Version and points This enough one won’t. The guns It will result FDA seems to think at enough cause people, far more harm at the FDA. 250 Dr. Croom find about how II pg. effective. an all too common to are benefits far more a better do we coming here way, impact I would the and not just public say, to health come because risk. . .?! 255 Dr. Dentali of 12 August, 1997 4:50 PM PDT; page together 78 there RE:Docket No.95N-0304 !fwhen I came sense got one, the to is to adverse consistent October those that other known ones those, And I feel the Vol. levels not, were risk for it is the danger II pg. 262 Dr. Ricaurte has to regard regulating something Vol. II pg. ‘II think abuse, find recommendations, 10 or particularly Version and eliminate to with only to look all the and others, chronic that that very to look the and use. was on beginning regarding at eliminate the herb from use with adverse traditional botanical.1’ from one extreme as a product, or group Those a dietary very is adult have the put medical into not been may that not be profession a Americans cynical ingredient and not be over-regulated, FDA that of being or in the position of over- wish use under to defined.tt 262 Dr. Ricaurte as long I this the advisory conditions. swung by consumers where safe this in reports, traditional of using recommended and me at are combined I feel the that were resulting to to objection. scientific .— for cogent position to presented a and abuse a handle to do ones and exclude and I use members made those done at those were were look that So when be to look ephedrine were Alkaloids common- respect with few ones the I wanted would that clear to have us to determine be used from that wasn’t was a at the that A very to trying by is with to eliminate ones that as not, Ephedrine products. events, of ephedrine and to include that what should are and ones these For me, that resulting the with mission particularly to look at the my adverse proposed stimulants “SO the pendulum a that were Containing are consistent for me to be able effects forms were exclude important ones that extract to those, that the to look and at the that the herb risk recommendations. with or the that of the of reactions eliminate the reduce version [1995] Supplements I understood analysis October the here~ updated rigorous ;Dietary down as the concern it somewhat, well, to adept of 12 August, for some we’re 5. in As again, going a 1997 4:50 to PM PDT; is misuse disingenuous to limit consumer, mathematics of the use the dose I realize don’t from have that page to 79 if and make 20 down to now be the ~ RE:Docket tablet take No.95N-0304 or 2 or frequency capsule or I take 3 or of well-intended looking I safeguards .’l They are dietary I take I appreciate So the while what of the use who be predisposed don’t think risk of efforts label by that are instructions they’re or abusing of the effective will destroying and in terms particularly they I“ by a population to misusing are Alkaloids considerations recognize ineffective; harm of all the I Ephedrine 5 milligrams, of the product those than worse only dose the reality may Containing contains 4. and the credibility spoonful suggestions, of individuals product, a Supplements use at the increase ;Dietary substantially the integrity and warnings and on ephedra supplements. Vol. II pg. 265 Mr. Israelson II...I share the view that has been product, you’ll drive it expressed underground that and if you ban this create a bigger problem.” Vol. 11 pg. 270 Dr. Woosley II. . .as I think you pointed risk/benefit ratio you can out, Dr. establish Ricaurte, when you there don’t have is no a known benefit. ..” There refuses are to benefits allow guaranteeing a known the to the Committee proposed Rule Committee; to that the consider is not FDA them, based on just thereby reason or evidence. Vol. II pg. 274 Dr. Inchiosa II...in the experiences in Ohio, information drug largely counter number of the use something it from was from that not a nutritive young ephedrine I heard by young preparations, 11 pg. Version get preparations. counter Vol. collected the and the that Canadian people study, who are hydrochloride statement abuse by young difficult made was process 1997 PM PDT; page abusing the over-the- that from of supplement.” 4:50 the from 197 Dr. Kessler of 12 August, even 80 a large over-theextracting ‘ RE:Docket “It’s No.95N-0304 [the record with judgment before some, the last two both others, they’re in the before starting quality as and, reviewed. removed II pg. I walk I mean high standard already that of about into that we a store are have safer and than have need about than of dietary FDA has on food Dr. Version I been two days. literature that but it’s the think that the is of very poor certainly.11 Love, has event done risks supplement least and not yet safety been data peer has been as ephedra foods badly to risks safe of herb as I as a consumer, products, have the in my hold foods them up every diet to a very poor dietary supplements in common form. The bottom beliefs about the presumed be educated foods supplements, a very these so I would unrealistic the which safety.” job about is of far are line is safety that. Educating greater importance on the basis of the record, of providing needed yet information to consumers. and your data (emphasis of 12 August, been the and the particular interpretations we’ve heard, II.. ●nd ~ essence ~ ~ review.” the over has last last two days sells Vol. II pg. 157 Dr. Jasinski I!...the critical question has deaths that expertise, OTC adverse that at shown, consumers the upon account. presented the presented. the a dietary of expected consumers that over two days, by to supplement much foods been been the individuals into information and on by the FDA. to believe As be that Alkaloids 204 Dr. Chassy “We are talking reason has own over vital that their the last admitted take draw based of different We’ll can Ephedrine ephedrine] alot group has supplied Moreover, expressly when as is over But the data and Containing of it’ll working with them base some, certainly familiar record We have information For they level expertise. be the days. Supplements a safe individuals. it’ll presented Vol. on a lot of different For For ;Dietary relationships interpretation and there has been scientific culture 4:50 PM PDT; these versus the a conflict.” ~ ~ page 81 added) 1997 of have Deer RE:Docket Vol. No.95N-0304 II pg. ;Dietary k have vou prepared collected it, how You made, have aqencv ~ report from submitted (emphasis II pg. data even this committee ~ to and @ And, ~ Your what internal ~ review have submitted the in the @ weekend meetinq were do @ a or that submit ~ ~ ~ peer that Vol. II pg. 248 Dr. Jasinski II...1 have been disturbed to some extent by Where either all scientific of this. of did she write making discussions.” scholarship like ...it~s this a report, available (emphasis the analvzinq the review reviewed, vou taken W they peer in terms vou’ve this ~ a added) is that that. through YOU ~ information rushed of how within ~ were schedule review review. ~ (emphasis tight internal ~ SUPP lY ~ ~ here.” such to peer that, just lack Alkaloids added) So they without do? data< conclusions similarly, committee intend over conclusions Ephedrine 158 Dr. Love course, They ~ ~ this aqency? @ q report interpreted ~ this Vol. II we time you outside review?” Containing 158 Dr. Jasinski “MY auestion and Supplements or data and they what is really scientific you their intended start to the quality I asked it reviewed, before have into the meeting question was didn’t Dr. was Love it peer getting these added) Vol II pg. 26 Mr. Betz 1!...although I pointed out last time ● three products still in the report The report carefully same for or no dietary whatsoever. must be noted Version absolutely as part that purged ephedra little contain the of data alkaloids care supplements The that FDA’s of this FDA to that report 1997 4:50 to OTC would never as given PM PDT; these they’re report.” to the drugs adverse contained that alkaloids, supplements, remove the FDA report of 12 August, larger provided pertaining taken in 1995] no ephedrine as the dietary was [meeting no Committee was containing the but apparently reaction ephedra pass peer alkaloids review. to the Committee page 82 reports It would RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ~ the meet junk science. Vol. II pg. II . . . student also who product same Supreme 53 Mr. it has daily police the been dose the to cocaine, amphetamines performed which is most that the tests part m W a certainly autopsy report.lr and from scientific certainty quantity on the the of weeding product, Alkaloids out in the substances ~ (emphasis report that of product consisting of such and “It as at is all cannabis, that other results no tests substances Dr. Love were said not made q added) many is autopsy to a of death not in possible reasonable was to you Brazelica, deficiencies it containing submitted of Dr. Joseph ‘That the cause the findings of Ma Huang forthe times to room.” no the Those three according “Yesterday, Iff concludes: a these strange.” Safety took It appears of on all at once. hotel other [college warnings Nexus, contains sets individual addition, the declaration which determine some Ephedrine for all report performed. package report In presence very Committee toxicologist, companions found of the the dose or barbiturates. for were that the daily and another presence of their criteria clear his autopsy autoPsY ‘lThe Ad HOC twice were relating were Containing ignored incident. cannabis the reported that without that Daubert Florida] at least kava-kava noteworthy as part widely indicate report, herb Court’s in and took Supplements Shapiro died reports the ;Dietary the to degree ingestion ephedrine.’” the of (emphasis added ) Vol. II pg. 110 Dr. Askew “Clarification mentioned coroner of earlier found autopsy.” in which II pg. “The clarification (This there in the consumer’s Vol. the the was some refers question to autopsy as to what the information on bloodstream.) 110 Dr. Love consumer’s of the negative autopsy ethanol report and is that cannabis levels record. “ Version the of 12 August, 1997 4:50 PM PDT; page 83 are in the RE:Docket Vol. No.95N-0304 II pg. Dr. Supplements clarifies ephedrine alkaloids tested strychnine, the and for were Florida autopsy caffeine negative, cardioregulatory Committee Bass and Florida, on the who the lack Vol. suggest that of ~ all of and level product.” that ~ this Vol. II pg. you will There none doubt.’’(emphasis I pg. 59 Dr. Davidson’s Version Appler and from 20 the perhaps from the Ad Mr. Shapiro at year old not hotel from as clear-cut rooms or analyses.” on ~ for etc. , and (emphasis anything attributed ~ it added) that ~ else to ~ exception alkaloids show Calvin the by the have autopsy report? in the autopsy report. McCausland 20-year Dr. in are doubt. reports of amphetamines, Mr. ~ levels old find reasonable it’s reasonable Vol. ~ directly was not at out and k FDA data “There you .“ cocaine, list the were use this h analyzed of ~ @ ~ added) the look spelled blood ephedrine 65 Dr. Orem, Utah II...if you Virginia was reports “NOW , where didn’t said been to compounds coroner (emphasis Why report, his the product.” hiqhest situation other a long found 229 Dr. Love “Actually this his from referred toxicological I pg. negative, Alkaloids and others. of Ma Huang also which while including drugs, Safety Ulman, the presence with Ephedrine report, positive, Vol. I pg. 229 Dr. Fukagawa It...in letters that we’ve received Hoc Containing 147 Dr. Love Love others ;Dietary other Thev fi three deaths took ~ in doubt. Borzelica, those from That ephedrine have — been — Q week ~ ~ and the Medical that Prochnow International, reasonable the volumes that — tissues Enrich Florida from Mr. you autopsy. doubt has College of have listed before, autopsy before that ~ reportedly. Reasonable added) Michael Davidson, qualifications behalf of 12 August, of the 1997 M.D. and his NNFA. 4:50 review See PM PDT; of the adverse Adverse page Event 84 event Clinical RE:Docket No.95N-0304 Summaries at Tab case files these found case and 191 files, 107 that unknown F referred underlying 191 serious ;Dietary not 13 were of these lack of 22 were possibly adverse serious. related Containing Davidson. categorized to be for related; to by Dr. he not Supplements of “Of the to ephedra. information. the summaries. the events Of to be 84 serious events, I classified eight Thirty-four related, Alkaloids He reviewed event 84 Ephedrine and seven associated with I as were remotely were probably related.” P9 “ 61 “Six cases, deaths not enough assessment. of were present deaths on due individual had internal carotid of history whose a prescription associated from drug deaths were due on The sixth a seizure also loss. on the these an obese in due a very and was strong high dose a family individual on phenteramine, of these who to a left associated All the of Another female had possibly was for weight occurred She One of supplements old with Two autopsy. in a 44 year doses abnormalities occurred other an associated strokes. that multiple occlusion. of toxic and cardiac to In two consider individuals. [stroke?] occurred artery was death atherosclerosis strokes. death possibly three using to to consumption all a strong ephedra. provided deaths in deaths who was that related six autopsy artery stroke was due to sudden to male basilar fatal were associated was were ltOf the three possibly possibly information Two deaths ephedra.” ephedra, were Apidex, six ephedra possibly products.t’ [How high?] ‘rThere were these ten ephedra. ten cases cases, In four, another in my three information provided myocardial infarction, exists. of non-fatal to of these revealed normal individuals were consuming an there not In not three cases of ephedra infarction arteries. ephedra to enough with post-myocardial coronary Of related was association reports, high-dose infarction. were assessment. possible In all three angiograms judgement, reports, make a myocardial All three in combination with caffeine. There unrelated four were or remotely additional Version 17 reports cases, of 12 August, of non-fatal strokes. Three related to ephedra-containing not information enough 1997 4:50 PM PDT; was page cases products. available 85 were In for RE:Docket No.95N-0304 me to make an evaluation. association In with four individuals prior left remaining these of the women to cases were cigarette over but one with smoker, and before containing majority were of exposure to reactions. high-dose and one was product being a for All the per panel, do individuals EEG woman ephedra of appears two to thrombosis 105 non-serious adverse increases and dizziness. of dose, the one-third which have a adverse less These than of is with severe are I reviewed, these tachycardia, are expected These in greater that the low-dose potential side effects frequency ephedra recommended rate associated 15 mg. per dose. 1997 infrequent in the products. significant the toxic and seizures. pressure, products. occurring events all of 12 August, blood symptoms ephedra-containing the hypothesis not in cases. associations that a I am not of only products events As cases be the either of these or cerebral by with evaluation of ephedra-containing These cases, on follow-up. exception there these by coronary To test Version the ephedra-containing 15 mg. in a limited to be dose-related, containing Of a possibly high-dose possible effects reviewed seizures. noted hemorrhage. exception the two of as having on the infrequent nervousness, over only with characterized appear is unknown a The was remaining on or an abnormal associations Of the of occurred ephedrine, characterized side these intracerebral patients --the reports I made summary, adverse At least of was with emboli. diagnosed three inhibitor --were seizures a neurologist, are 16 of seizures possible was women as of women. use of these a male products. There In the she suffered lupus involved One these hyperlipidemia source other In one Alkaloids a possible cases, of premenopausal contraceptive stroke a positive case a possible and the inhibitor. oral One contraceptives. smoker of these history involve cases, a year as cases, associated hypertension stroke. on oral lupus associated the ten Ephedrine exists. possibly significant to be a cigarette positive ten Containing remaining products ventricle five Supplements In the ephedra had diagnosed dilated ;Dietary PM PDT; of with These ephedra-containing 4:50 dose products of the adverse the 86 1 product account products, page working events, ephedra products below but for only RE:Docket No.95N-0304 approximately events that the 7% ;Dietary of the adverse on low-dose products, were possibly related young woman inhibitor, who and had the Supplements events. there only product. a stroke was Of were to the other Containing who a 55 Ephedrine these two 42 adverse serious events I mentioned also year had one a positive old female Alkaloids was lupus who had a seizure. Based reports, on my I have Number working the one, affect quality are assurance day with the vast of ephedra adverse recommendation the The are to lower dietary two main the dose the ephedra of ephedra provides majority reactions the event of the ephedra supplement issues of the trade that appear ephedra and to the of the product. 15 mg. equivalents, [1995] those reactions of opinions: appropriate. The proposal per following and adverse review last year’s group associations medical a margin of occurred per both with alkaloid dose, expressed of safety serious products content based and that as on the to 60 mg. ephedrine fact non-serious exceeded that adverse these dosage thresholds. Improved good provide dosing will dosing permitted. The warnings and Vol. IfDr. Love, serving working product ~ can ~ against and group also assurance batches. would easily Because ~~ ~ mis-dosed recommended instructions. the those @ ~ use with I would by a very also smokers, include those history of you, terms appropriate on taking cardiovascular the oral or 107 Dr. Georgitis I have events of the a question below the ephedrine to how many of those Vol. 107 Dr. Love II pg. Version quality disorders. II pg. aadverse that and added) labeling contraceptives, within important, products (emphasis cautions seizure is that ephedra practices consistency consistency recommendation label manufacturing of 12 August, for median value alkaloids, out of the total 1997 4:50 in of do you adverse PM PDT; 20 have of serious milligrams a percentage events? page the 87 per as RE:Docket No.95N-0304 “We haven’t ~ have iniurv expressed only collect ~ our that numbers reports ephedrine of up of the FDA after m we’ve was usinq important Here, is a very receiving the poor such you have factors --where a sample --could levels you saw significant Vol. 11 pg. 108 Dr. Love “Well, unfortunately, but there yet don’t product are a number have but a cardiomyopathy milligrams, to be total case. total ephedrine alkaloids. just mean the best Vol. II pg. VerSiOn _. a No taking through data a single the of that it on the didn’t follow- have a lot examiner, where cases data cases the again, in and hand for consumer it at in that a death used case 10 we the to be are from what containing here, which appears a 10 appears milligrams or how that of what 10 FDA or how “appears” milligrams is provided the was using, that case knows on what of how as I stated of 12 August, — 1997 of total the much of the have some--I often. (to Dr. Love) case. I mean just so we we have.” I don’t to be else 109 Dr. Love —— amount admits those the how containing information 109 Dr. Kessler go that alkaloids product product individual “And “Well, of was II pg. a FDA recent As I stated mentions ephedrine Vol. total to how the alkaloids.” use the of on death, alkaloid. long-term product The use FDA here individual recent ~ reactions? all very information more long-term The ———.— all @ ~ concerning go through have including - the time a medical adverse I don/t * reflection have just what course, reports. you you of Alkaloids added) related Vol. II pg. 108 Dr. Kessler (to Dr. Love) II. ..you asked for relatively clean cases of confounding ~ question events Ephedrine because, that.’r (emphasis adverse This form samples consumed. that. Containing in that the consumer a very actually know - analvze is clearly of Supplements data relatively QQ able ~ This doesn’t ~ samDle ~ ;Dietary have all those 4:50 PM PDT; details.” page 88 RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids . Vol. II pg. 109 Dr. Kessler “I’m sorry.” This is a shockingly supposed to evidence concerning Vol. be “I’m trying now, seem best or adverse you have effects with where very you to have the of a same you’ve done the they number feel because for where as it stands But you do have alkaloids on there the of is fewer in them, market, adverse a [in relative public things FDA/s an you effects dose-response incidence], increasing health increase problem this and how showing that’s is related in publicizing caused not publicity in which supplements recommendation concerning injuries were by) the use of ephedra has to use resulted that going to to the change in and ma huang publicity during the has FDA pseudoephedrine, II pg. this period received for the asking people alkaloid reports in the concerning ephedra or phenylpropanolamine) adverse associated in The FDA’s warnings Diqest (pg. 85). repeatedly on network TV. There has Version us some of cases actually of this received not necessarily Vol. providing in?t~ Indeed, dietary gives products that is growing or how much reports cases is dose. of ephedrine those suggests increase getting to report on what .“ this the way best the board. Vol. I pg. 234 Dr. Jasinski II.. .you’re showing this increase project, the correlation, amounts fewer around relationship we’re information versus that all across high have which of of reactions to get at something reported, much of total one to see a dose-response products and their amount 228 Dr. Chassy I pg. we begin small (to Dr. Love) have been 1997 4:50 PM PDT; CNN 1997 also no adverse (but and events a Reader’s appeared similar FDA reports alkaloid (ephedrine, containing OTC products. 277 Mr. Guzewich of 12 August, with containing on July events page 89 RE:Docket II ...1 No.95N-0304 want running compliment difficult quality data Yes, the the quality hapless data of other have prepared but the in the side but they Vol. 282 Mr. them, have I think, to assess in the market levels. ..” More other FDA consumers for them poor consider point be any made safe choices than they for poor ahold the of and any should of MIs ephedra of FDA could had the data have had data and strokes and but did on the occurence ephedrine a committee products, available of benefits the and improve lap The events containing between should it safe of drugs for be able be at risk to consumers to expect different at normal information on for bottles to purchase use, and and benefits) to Guzewich, any must be expected for their use of products, 1997 labels consumers safer as unmitigated of 12 August, might and on the a product even ~ abused added) education virtually that we can reasonably consumers find products choose Consumers Version about data by Mr. at had data by committees quality the OTC into to present FDA a very Guzewich better of using has cannot ignore occurrence the is a far better to treat made and The in did not. (emphasis methods choices in FDA them adverse do of data. ..” information. not. have when and the did is more Therefore, shelf. important population comparison, II pg. FDA spontaneous effects 1! ...sophisticated failed on it The FDA should adverse the Alkaloids for 16 years reporting the to to and she kind dumping told that you can get and is then and a report on seizures not. which data on that by task Ephedrine trying doing and you’re quality, data available peer-reviewed, available poor Moreover, with job, decisions these the products. she’s It’s not an easy are committee, what it’s the only to make Containing I’ve been thankless and when trying on program. disease. and often Supplements Love Dr. a surveillance for food-borne you’re ;Dietary idiots make to assume at least 4:50 labeling they must for have can in the PM PDT; than by the do not final should ridiculous. responsibility to their page The market and some personal extending make decisions (eg., them. impractical and opinions, limitations a product is that in our that decisions that in by the FDA and given unreasonable dose so choice, assembled and 90 compliance RE:Docket with No.95N-0304 label instructions. supplement products directed, Vol. II pg. hard because DSHEA may sets us in court Alkaloids dietary when used as abused. for weeding withdraw the Rule, reviewed data to that damage in speaks for never meet again they the the [FDA] FDA it find of proof that case, and and again.!! data Supreme in to may and again Committee, are to do specific Because members need burden a data, relationship, they itself. science. Committee fits within of the because where the that re-convene quality especially to bear done out junk the they doing would criteria asked have the a cause-and-effect I think being comment meeting conclusion that unsafe in any way in a situation alkaloids above Committee from this Court~s Daubert of this, FDA must provide advance, the ambit of Congresses the thousands of pages sound reach will, peer a new and re- a new Rule. It doesn’t by be. noted staff to build find themselves The Ephedrine requires how badly have FDA need that ephedra FDA before no matter the they however they may DSHEA unreasonably members] blaming be commended, propose be Containing 285 Dr. Chassy and without the not [committee themselves Supplements Moreover, not to be safe “Several the ;Dietary seem presumably the the distributed meeting were questions questions and containing adverse dietary reports ephedrine of what seizures for to actually asked included deaths that read the are among FDA answers interpreting the meeting, Love Dr. the committee not have key to of by most during using what containing dietary questions the adverse (FDA) did not have or both. Version of 12 August, 1997 not do their available 4:50 PM PDT; were similar key either levels of amounts of . 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Rhode Island (1996 WL 241709 (U.S.)) tl...a State’s paternalistic assumption that the public will use truthful, non-misleading commercial information unwisely (at 8) cannot justify a decision to suppress it.” llIt is precisely this kind of choice, between the dangers Of suppressing information, and the dangers of its misuse freely available, that the First Amendment makes (quoting from Pittsburgh Press Co. v. Pittsburgh Comm’n Version of 14 August, 1997, 12:13 AM PDT; page 97 if it is for us.1~ on Human RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids Relations, 413 U.S. 376, 93 S.Ct. 2553, 37 L.Ed.2d. 770 (1973) ‘tin case after case Court, and individual stress the importance consumer Members of of Virginia the the ... Pharmacy Court, have impropriety or . ‘commercial’ Bd., the continued to of through the public opinion . . znformatlon. ..’s (J. 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FDA’s themselves, Version dose and ,risk of only uninformed mg. providing the succeed through 17 20 reject itself by the By near who provides survey, reduced know behavior the familiar. size is size than market consumers otherwise more than its may there serving little consumers rule, reduction. legitimacy truthful safety, be publication are substantially people’s to Alkaloids and the Internet. alkaloids, taken not size Moreover, newsletters consumer increasing actions range, the behavior dramatically attempt from displaying must labeling the its of the violating dosage and government not Ephedrine statements. of both FDA must Containing for FDA’s liberty labels products consumer to compensate of both constitution, Supplements 99 and harm RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL: EPHEDRA HERB IS NOT EPHEDRA HERB EXTRACT EPHEDRA HERB EXTRACT IS NOT SYNTHETIC EPHEDRINE FDA’S PROPOSED RULE ANALYTICAL OF THE METHOD WILL NOT PROVIDE ACCURATE EPHEDRA HERB ALKALOIDS IN PRODUCTS MADE WITH ACTUAL EPHEDRA HERB RATHER THAN WITH EXTRACTS MEASUREMENTS Food Advisory When actual instantly soluble alkaloids increase releases and its BIOAVAILABLE Committee ephedra the extract, as than an of the levels ground herb slowly a time-release effects adverse 1996 rather blood the providing of 27-28, ingested slowly thereby risk August is alkaloid more alkaloids, reducing herb ephedra much meeting effect sensitive in individuals. Products containing pharmacokinetically containing actual ephedra substantially ephedra alkaloid identical manner is arbitrary herb when different ingested from regulating extracts; are products them in an capricious~ and contrary to fact. Vol. I, pg. 146 Dr. Jasinski II...we already matrix from that’s the in this terms in a certain from of -- the sort of pharmacology absorption and rate of 146 Dr. Yetley you asking recommendations version medications alter medication l!We are not aware we’re may put [elimination?].!! 1, pg. questions if you natural pure limitation Vol. know of data have.” this on the botanical llBut those group of are experts the that would scientific to discuss and issues to on.” of 15 August, 1997 l:OOPM PDT; page answer 100 make the that some RE:Docket No.95N-0304 herbs of the look Ephedrine Alkaloids is going is going to to to influence affecting affect the the steady the half-life state plasma “ 157 Dr. Hsieh I, pg. ‘IDo you Containing contribute which urine, which drug, concentrations. Vol. might themselves alkalinity of the Supplements 147 Dr. Inchiosa Vol . I, pg. ‘lThe ;Dietary want us at the to look herb? And at the the compounds, two should or not do you be want equated.~1 us to (emphasis added ) Vol. 158 Dr. Yetley I, pg. “I understand that ingredients in the botanical two these may have not that very concentrated equated, we’re common, extracts But products. products are products is certainly botanical, in the it is synthetic but seeing. or at both So you least possible so it’s really form, of are very that some both.” be need--the extracts of the botanical also could the common of these (emphasis added) Didn’t market review added, FDA there in them than Even what though that does precisely same as ephedra Because herb re-propose a new Rule. I, pg. ~IJust a new the the products was case in synthetic alkaloids with ephedrine other a genuine contained the their than ephedra actual herb extract? Dr. are not alkaloid reach there percentage it treats of this, of ephedra be FDA’s the two Committee, Vol. any alkaloid the that; analyses whether were an ephedra understand any (as would and extract), rather do to determine whether ephedrine herb the Yetley equated, ...” ephedra extract FDA must correctly herb that FDA’s proposed products III Rule exactly the re-convene the products. withdraw conclusions states, the Rule, correct these errors, and 180 Dr. Jasinski question of Dr. Obermeyer. What is the extraction efficiency? Have you done this? If you take the herb and make a tea, what is the extraction efficacy?~’ (emphasis version — of 15 August, 1997 l:OOPM PDT; added) page 101 RE:Docket Vol. No.95N-0304 I, pg. ~~I~m not ;Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids 180 Dr. Jasinski talking a tea, what about your chemical is the extraction analysis. If somebody efficacy?ll (emphasis So would makes added) Vol. I, pg. 180 Dr. Obermeyer l~That depends on minute three their versus tea cup (emphasis brew for time. minutes ten if you versus minutes, someone that steep that would be it for forgot much one it in different.~s added) vol. I, pg. 181 Dr. Jasinski ~~What~s the maximum extraction efficacy you can do if you make a tea and you put it in the pot and you boil it up?l~ (emphasis added) Vol. I, pg. 181 Dr. Obermeyer ~~We have extract not it worked for would herb. ..~~ (emphasis The actually actual FDA has be ephedrine that no be methanol idea herb ephedra alkaloids ephedra herb the to how much and maximum. be the (rather would consumed of the ingested from than Furthermore, HC1). for What we maximum would out of an added) extracted ephedra on a cup ephedra alkaloids of tea extract or would made an iced in the human tea which is gut with synthetic the FDA has no idea how much be extracted as ephedra of the from ground consumed without brewing. The results do with ephedra numbers the of chemical how a tea alkaloid extraction, either FDA’s Dr. analysis that containing extract) in the Obermeyer is have actual very providing little ephedra used. consumers’ is There tea pots herb is no are the if anything (rather hot or in the to than methanol human GI tract. Vol. I, pg. 181 Dr. Jasinski tl~ mean, * question before the arou~ isc ~ know, ~ terms ~ dose and what Youzre qoinq — to ~ and what —— the safe —. dose is goinq .— version PDT; of 15 August, 1997 l:OOPM page 102 RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids the herb when &Q W U ~ don’t know what peoDle uet out ~ ~ answer this auestion.” (emphasis they brew it, there’s ~ ~ added ) FDA’s ephedra proposed herb exactly extract which Because of homework, these must ma few and the Committee, containing containing capricious, withdraw the errors, and re-propose ephedra contrary Rule, reach actual do new herb to its fact. laboratory conclusions that a new Rule. 181 Dr. Obermeyer ItRight. Most very FDA products as products arbitrary, this, I, pg. of the is treats the same re-convene correct Vol. Rule of the huang products extract. products really This are are is what actually encapsulated we the are or seeing herb tablets And mostly. root as a tea.1~ (emphasis added) FDA’s Dr. Obermeyer here in his concerns ephedra alkaloid Wery that that If the without extract actual not Dr. Obermeyer the FDA is proceed the needed new in the than to new data Committee Rule and with also analytical herb alkaloid making method, actual extracts or To apply the proposed Rule to products ephedra herb (not ephedra herb FDA alkaloid in Rule ephedra and from this Rule that contain ephedra as admits proposed actual meetings, same considering their on is correct the wishes exempt all products ephedrine. that are FDA holding rather products products. products Dr. Jasinski actually the herb ... as a tea.11. modifications herb herb that ‘t- gathering products, ephedra few~i of the this meeting admits herb major should ephedra synthetic that contain extracts or synthetic ephedrine) would be arbitrary, capricious, and contrary to fact. Technical note: Although we have an herbal text which refers being used in ephedra herb teas, we do to the “twigs and roots” not believe Ephedra practice. leaves the that (which stems look that roots use of the roots is Sinica (and related rather like green bear leaving the and version of 15 August, them are some of the 1997 l:OOPM a species) twigs harvested, stems PDT; common or not and commercial is a perennial; pine needles) the leaves, page 103 roots. the and By plant’s RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids and leaves grow back next spring, and can be harvested year stems This is particularly after year. is a slow growing plant. several years will pass seen Us., but that bear Vol. I, pg. we have them; seen grown before a lot of the have If the ephedra only we have important since Ephedra Sinica from plant herb seeds can that is the needle-like never seen be or harvested. imported leaves any ephedra into the stems roots. 184 Dr. Fong about extraction with methanol, and is when you then people taking the capsule with the total extracts or with the herb in and what is the bioavailability? there, We really don’t know what the patient is getting, at least in my mind.” Vol. We and the II .... The data as I sit here running through my mind talking cuttings, (emphasis added) 184 Dr. Obermeyer I, pg. ~~1believe the literature would probably support your thoughts.1~ (emphasis added) This is a member FDA has not done of the FDA staff a search of the here implying that the literature on the amount of ephedra alkaloids which are bioavailable from the actual herb (as opposed to a methanolic themselves ! extract) , let alone done the research Furthermore this is a tacit admission that these are substantive relevant considerations. Vol. 186 Dr. Dentali I, pg. “My understanding supply for what capsule mixed alcohol, not water, extracts are methanol\water methanol) —. buying ingredients manipulated. that’s So why you the that and are the industrial then placing are extracts of may have high concentrations in the water and temperature typically are produce the 6 percent. . .~t refers commercially products are other and than This version pH these companies with alcohol, not higher is that to the available ephedra clearly made mixture , which in of 15 Augustr process turn 1997 herb in - than is currently a how extracts. to These different way a consumer would different l:OOPM used PDT; than direct page - ephedra with herb a hot tea (no ingestion of brew 104 RE:Docket the No.95N-0304 actual ground herb, temperatures used extract different are Supplements which in hot water, where actual ground from which Containing would in brewing. brewed temperature ;Dietary Products products ephedra not involve made with where in turn are herb is Ephedrine the Alkaloids the high ephedra herb actual herb different from ingested without is products high brewing. Vol. I, pg. 186 Dr. Jasinski “SO you just put boil it up?~t Vol. I, pg. “Pretty Vol. it into a pot and add alcohol and water and you 186 Dr. Dentali much.” I, pg. 186 Dr. Dentali “Evaporate it off, put it on a carrier. ‘1 There is much faster gut absorption of the alkaloids when on a carrier (from an ephedra herb extract) as compared to the rate of gut absorption when a person swallows actual ground herb. Vol. I, pg. ‘sl did happen reference Japan. 152 Dr. Dentali to to you They incidence come across and possibly had been of adverse two a copy studies, of it. seeing--they effects and I One was reported recently with can get the conducted seeing products a in high containing ephedrine alkaloids. They realized that their data was based on ephedrine and not the extract, and they conducted an animal trial with equivalent amounts of ephedrine alkaloids and comparing the two-- in mice, absorption I believe. ... Generally, they found that levels concentrations Ephedra were about half time-wise and the in the plasma were about half.1~ (emphasis added) herb extract is not ephedrine, and its pharmacological effects are not the same as ephedrine. Most of adverse reactions were abused the products producing serious ephedrine extract containing products. ephedra product version of 15 August, — and products, It is very find nothing 1997 l:OOPM some misbranded common but to ephedra analyze ephedrine; PDT; as a these page 105 herb so-called products do RE:Docket No.95N-0304 ;Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids NOT contain either ephedra herb extract or ephedra herb. Vol . I, pg. 276 Jones ~lThe available some of the beneficial better data indicates properties of properties tolerated on in though ephedrine its an that own it itself, right alkaloid ephedra and is herb also shares possesses furthermore equivalence basis.~1 much (emphasis added ) Vol. II, pg. Continues 80 Mr. Appler to analyze the Texas reports in the Poison Control Center exactly two that were related to herbal ma huang. In every there was no seen there Vol. II, pg. were llThe other No. herb 4053 from only herb may who be FDA’s When ephedra version all to out, results added) that didn~t (emphasis receive between leave in is of bioavailable herb their this We products. incapable LIB alkaloids on synthetic ephedra is not method ephedra comments no extract, method the herb, analytical containing extract the Ephedra Rule will adequate added) ephedrine. we herb herb, drinks less than from when solution analytical of 15 August, a serving not an alkaloid alkaloids Rule and were to use alkaloids) of alkaloids . accurately contained herb. the proposed the differences (no alkaloid amount the actual methanol-water sort to products extract; a consumer is of any 94 related points is not analytical with teacup suited herb the in the actual and two others the FDA proposed ephedra proposed measuring there as Dr. Patrick feel the extract herb use ephedra I was extract; ephedra those that and ephedrine.11 extract, ephedra Texas, the 257 Dr. Dentali attention Ephedra injury for North ~1...of cases, mild.11 (emphasis area scientific herb one of those permanent He states reports. in the the an extract herb herb extract method. 1997 of ephedra l:OOPM in is tea - made - the extraction the hot extracted factory No consumer PDT; herb or uses page water filled in a in the boiling a boiling 106 of FDA~s hot RE:Docket No.95N-0304 methanol-water When that alkaloids ephedra occurs slowly alkaloid content the of of an facts, products, that correct analytical these errors, at alkaloid real tea in a Rule deliverable herb products. the extract; actual not proposed alkaloid it ephedra has herb not (but ephedrine.) must capricious withdraw that the are valid Committee, and failure for reach re-propose a new to Rule, consider do actual new their ephedra conclusions Rule and a new proposed Rule method. that contain FDA can actual exempt from the ephedra herb but do not ephedra alkaloid extracts or synthetic ephedrine. version Alkaloids ephedra 37°C, FDA’s the iced the to measure contain and the in an ephedra designed the methods re-convene Alternatively, products FDA The actual that arbitrary Ephedrine of gut exaggerate or synthetic on analytical herb with for products relevant homework was extract Because these method herb extraction consumer’s greatly made ephedra and water. of products no alkaloid the content FDA’s validated ground in the will Containing his or her tea. boiled, of methanol method Remember, ingests been mixture Supplements to make never analytical been mixture a consumer has boiling ;Dietary of 15 August, 1997 l:OOPM PDT; page 107 contain . . ..”..... \ 7ED IIIIII U. 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