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This PDF is a selection from a published volume from the National Bureau of Economic Research Volume Title: NBER Macroeconomics Annual 2007, Volume 22 Volume Author/Editor: Daron Acemoglu, Kenneth Rogoff and Michael Woodford, editors Volume Publisher: University of Chicago Press Volume ISBN: 978-0-226-00202-6 Volume URL: http://www.nber.org/books/acem07-1 Conference Date: March 30-31, 2007 Publication Date: June 2008 Chapter Title: Discussion of chapter 3 Chapter Author: Daron Acemoglu, Kenneth Rogoff, Michael Woodford Chapter URL: http://www.nber.org/chapters/c6419 Chapter pages in book: (p. 247 - 249) Discussion The discussion ernment focused spending, on the choice identification between issues, and total and military gov the consequences of im plementation lags. out that not only was Rick Mishkin by pointing began the discussion the Korean War a big event, but itwas also the closest to a perfect ex was from that Hence, unanticipated. completely periment, given that it to keep the Korean War in the itwould be very important viewpoint, sample. the use of overall government defended Acemoglu spending that if one views rather than just defense the spending by arguing as instruments, dummies then the Ramey-Shapiro right intervening variable is not defense spending, but total spending. Valerie Ramey later Daron confirmed used that the original total government (1998) paper Ramey-Shapiro spending, with the defense dummy had indeed variables as instruments. uses more data, out that the VAR method also pointed Acemoglu in the dummy it is whereas variable unclear how to think approach, on He about "asymptotics four observations." concluded by suggesting a the narrative reconciliation between potential approach and the VAR a source of variation in spend is exploiting approach. The first approach a so one that is wealth would tend to shock, ing causing strictly negative a find negative Perotti's approach effect. Conversely, includes spending on education, reasonable frameworks health, and so on, which most as to private consumption. That source of complementary an variation creates increase in the marginal of consumption, propensity and hence would tend to result in an increase in consumption. Perhaps, would model are actually consistent with each other, he offered, the two approaches even without into the econometric there may be details, although going other reasons why one approach might be preferred over the other. 248 Discussion Michael Woodford reiterated the basic questions of the paper, par in to Ricardo Reis's which had implied that response tially presentation, a neoclassical on what one model could yield any response depending assumes about the policy rules. Woodford out at that least in the pointed are some baseline neoclassical model there that very simple predictions are independent of what one assumes about the dynamics of the fiscal shock. paper model. In particular, he argued, the two key puzzles that motivate the come from two static in neoclassical relations the equilibrium the marginal First, on the firm side, the static relation between product of labor and the real wage yields a relation between hours and an increase in hours a fiscal shock the real wage. Obtaining following a lower that leaves productivity would unchanged imply product wage. rate of the household's Second, in the representative problem, marginal substitution condition between hours, and the real wage, consumption, a in the real wage would reduction up, implies that with hours going have to be associated with a decline sized the fact that these in consumption. Woodford empha on the predictions two sign restrictions of the of the dynamics of the shock to government pur are independent chases, and are in fact the focus of the paper. Valerie Ramey highlighted the paper by Burnside, model and Eichenbaum, a at in which effect of defense neoclas looks the (2004), spending common New Key sical framework with distortionary taxes, whereas that still assume nondistortionary nesian models taxes, and suggested Fisher in this area. is needed investigation on the choice Michael Woodford also commented more and overall He between defense that in earlier work spending. acknowledged spending on military with focused Julio Rotemberg (1992), they had entirely to address concerns that government spending may respond spending, in the economy. But, he argued, Perotti's ap to the state of productivity to address the endogeneity issue through a differ proach is attempting even if ent means, which is the timing restriction. From this perspective, one considers which of government other components may spending, an issue if one be be correlated with productivity, causality might not be it. lieves that the assumed timing restrictions neutralize to identification issues, with Mark Gertler to discrimi about the impulse responses using echoing Gertler's models. nate between the neoclassical and New Keynesian concern stemmed model the from the fact that just as in the neoclassical The discussion Reis's then shifted concerns can be very sensitive to the fiscal policy rule, in the New Key responses are to the monetary sensitive nesian model responses policy rule. In fact, 249 Discussion isNew Keynesian, the policy of an effective cen he argued, if the world look like a real business tral bank can make the economy cycle (RBC) But the positive difficult. and that will make identification economy, was that if one believes in that there are periods spin to his comment which these rules change, then one can exploit that in the identification in the impulse responses. Gertler concluded with and look for changes "a point on intellectual history," stressing that Timothy Cogley and Jim in the the ones to first notice the lack of persistence Nason (1995) were models. RBC of predictions on variable choice by sought to reconcile the debate but de that if all government affects outcomes, spending suggesting is exogenous, then one should have defense spending be fense spending an instrument one could in for government spending. Alternatively, Olivier Blanchard in the VAR and look at the effects. The second point was on the issue of implementation lags. Blanchard clude both variables Blanchard made to take a that in principle, if one is willing (2002) showed stand on how long before the event takes place people actually know one can then what will happen, the issue by using actually handle as next for this measured shocks period. Blanchard also spending period and Perotti stressed differences the VAR and dummy variable approaches. between First of all, the shocks of a VAR have different magnitudes compared with the binary value of a dummy. Second, different episodes have dif cannot ferent fiscal compositions (spending versus tax revenues) which be captured with a dummy approach. [The author was unable to be present and so was not able to respond to the discussion.]