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Approaches to Developing a Spine Practice in a Saturated Market J Rafe Sales, MD Summit Spine Instititute Portland, Oregon Disclosures • Teaching/ Professional Education – Spinewave, LDR • Research and development – Spinewave; LDR None of these products or concepts are discussed today or have any part of this presentation Market Saturation • Todays markets are more crowded than ever • Many people competing for the same health care dollars • To succeed one must find a way to differentiate from your peers/ competitors • But how? Market Saturation • Three pronged approach 1.Be good 2.Be Different/ Diversify 3.Let people know/ Marketing “Be Good” Good” • Data outcomes and tracking is becoming more and more prevalent, like it or not • Doctors will continually be judged by patients and eventually peers • Therefore this is part of our business for the foreseeable future – Most satisfied patients are more likely to dieReference “Be Good” Good” • So how to you become “good”? 1.Training- stay up to date on the latest techniques, concepts, and literature 1. This is key in todays competitive marketplace 2. Old techniques, while excellent, are often pushed aside by educated consumers 2.Track your own data to prove you are good. 1. Can be simple ie: Oswestry, Pain scale pre and post surgery 2. Can be complicated ie: Patient registry, multiple patient outcomes tracking modalities “Be Good” Good” • Analyze your data, and be critical • Usually you need at least one to two years of data to have enough data to put it out there • Promote your own data: 1. Patient satisfaction 1. Would you have same surgery again? %, #s 2. Infection rate 1. Compare versus published data 3. Length of stay 1. Compare versus published data “Be Good” Good” • Track “Doctor Websites” • These unfortunately are also part of your life and a large number of patients visit these sites before choosing a doctor • Have your office manager review sites monthly or weekly to manage these. If there is a negative comment or score, you can often respond with a comment, apology, etc. “Be Good” Good” • A bad review on a website can undo all the promotion and word of mouth • Great reviews can go a long way as well • One happy patient is good, but one unhappy patient on the web can be devastating, so watch these closely “Be Good” Good” • Today young patients will most likely disseminate the experience through social media. A happy patient tells 10 people… • Conversely, a negative physician-patient relationship, interaction, or communication will also be transmitted near and far- 100 people • Therefore watch your reputation online!! Be Different “Be Different” Different” • Most important concept to differentiate yourself from the other fish in the pond • To referring docs, consumers, outsiders, all spine surgeons/ pain specialists look the same on the surface • No one cares where you went to school, GPA, hair color, training, etc • Therefore you need to do something to be different “Be Different” Different” • Offer the latest and greatest (assuming it is actually good!) – Goes along with “be good”. Learn new techniques – Minimally invasive surgery – Disc replacements “Be Different” Different” • Many national and international courses offered, including hands on technique courses – NASS – Chicago- Education and training center – AAOS- regional training centers – Industry training courses on new products “Be Different” Different” • Offer services that no one else offers • Avoid easily copied services – Valet at hospitals- Good example – If Hospital A puts one in, Hopsital B will follow quickly with no net gain “Be Different” Different” • Examples of services no one else offers 1.Satellite Clinics- Often underserved areas are not that far from your home base, and have a large patient population and referral bases 1. Cheap and easy- one to two days a month, sublease space. With portable EMR this is now easily added • Example: 1. Example: San Francisco Spine Institute: Used to offers a clinic in Northern California/ Redding region for years 2. After clinic stopped, patients still traveled even 15 years later 1. Average commute to clinic in 2007- 2.5 hours!! Satellite Clinics • It’s a way to expand your reach and allow you to still be successful in your own region • Summit Spine Institute – Portland Oregon – Three satellite clinics • Seaside, Oregon (Oregon coast) • Hood River, Oregon (The Gorge) • Newberg, Oregon (Yamhill Valley) • All surgeries still done at home hospital so it doesn’t offer coverage issues or other problems. Satellite Clinics • Most important- Not easy to reproduce, especially for large clinics • It takes time and effort, and you would be surprised at how few people will make that effort Satellite Clinics • Newer technology is expanding this further with telecommunication clinics • Oregon Health and Sciences University – Four clinics monthly in Eastern Oregon – 5 hours drive – Every other clinic is very telemedicine. – Nurse/ PA on site performs the examination; Doc interviews patients, reviews imaging, etc. from Portland “Be Different” Different” • Look outside normal referral sources – Chiropractors • Chiropractors often are the gateway to spine care. • In the NW, more patients present to chiropractors for back pain, neck pain, than PCPs • Traditionally there was an adversarial relationship between MDs and DCs, however this is slowly changing • Most spine issues seen by a DC do not need surgery, however some obviously do. Chiropractors • Most chiropractors view surgeons wearily, and visa versa • Open communication lines between your office and chiropractors – Face to face meetings – Speak at chiropractic meetings • Donate $$ to chiropractic societies? – Give them a familiar face to send herniations, arm and leg pain, weakness, etc. Be Different • Take Workman’s Compensation Cases – Huge pain in the butt… we all agree. However this is a very large patient population – Once your office is well versed in these cases they will get easier – Usually good to great reimbursement, depending on the market – This goes hand in hand with working with Chiropractors- they often thrive off MVA, Work comp cases Work Comp Keys • Keys from my practice with work comp cases 1. Establish rules for handling cases before accepting them 2. We only become the treating physician once surgery is approved and only for 3 months afterwards 3. Medication management for only 3 months after surgery except for special circumstances 4. PA/ Office staff can complete paperworkcreate a workflow to make it manageable Be Different • Take Motor Vehicle Claims – Many older physicians/ practices wont take the claims.. These are also a pain in the butt – Can take 1 year or more to get paid, and sometimes you don’t…. • However when they do pay usually they pay at a rate 2 to 3 x better than commercial payors, so its worth it. • Hard to swallow when you first start them because your AR is so large, but easy to manage $$ and logistically once a workflow is established MVA Cases • Work with the enemy… – “good attorneys”. It is key to develop relationships with attorneys who send you only good cases • Ie Open claim, insurance coverage, PIP not exhausted, etc • If you establish a relationship with four to five good attorneys usually you can keep a good workflow coming directly from them MVA claims – Once again, these cases go hand in hand with working with Chiropractors- they often thrive off MVA, Work comp cases – Good way to meet new referral sources, as there is a much smaller pool of competing docs who accept MVA cases “Be Different” Different” • Find different revenue streams. • There are many different ways for spine surgeons to make money aside from practicing medicine. • Revenue declines in a saturated market, so find it elsewhere. – Product development/ Industry – Surgery Center Ownership – Ownership / investment in ancillary services – Real estate Product Development • As surgeons we have insight into how things work, what needs to be changed, new ideas, etc. • Intellectual Property is one of the better way to gain outside revenue • Problems: – Hard to come up with new ideas that have not been thought of / patented – How to bring it to market? Product Development • Work with companies – Frowned upon by some. Sunshine Laws make transparency key. – Some past decisions/ payments to docs look very bad- $10 million for BMP-2 research? Product Development – Follow the rules and it will all be legal. • I always use the “front page” test – Working with companies is one of the ways to bring your IP to market. They have resources, labs, etc. – Or develop a product with your own or local lab and test it, then bring it to companies to sell the IP/ concept • Ie Legacy Lab- Portland Oregon “Be Different” Different” • Use surgery centers/ get involved • Patients usually like surgery centers – Higher patient satisfaction – Lower costs – Lower complication rates? TBD Surgery Center Ownership • Nearly all surgeons either utilize or have some ownership in a surgery center • Benefits: – Revenue – Better patient satisfaction – Control over staffing, turnover – Lower cost to the health care system Trends in Spine Surgery at ASCs • Increasing numbers of spine surgeries are handled on an outpatient basis. • Overall, outpatient spine surgical rates are in the 10-15% range. • By 2015, it is predicted that outpatient treatments will be nearly as common as inpatient. Trends • Early Pioneers: “bread-and-butter” spine procedures – lumbar decompressions and – cervical • Current trends: – Cervical fusions- 1 - 3 levels – Posterior Lumbar fusions 1 - 2 levels – Lateral lumbar fusions? Surgery Center Ownership • Many different types of centers out there – Multispecialty Centers- ie orthopaedics, podiatry, general surgery, pain management, spine surgery – Single Specialty Center- ie orthopaedics, pain management, spine surgery – Centers that are owned entirely by the surgeons or a partially owned by either a surgery center development company or hospital system • Ownership % varies based upon type of center you invest in Surgery Center Ownership • Problems / Challenges – Join an existing center? • Higher buy in, usually significantly lower % ownership – Non-compete- keep in mind this will be quite rigid so be sure it is a good investment • 15 miles common in Portland Surgery Center Ownership – Start a new center? • Financial dept/ ownership costs can be substantial up front • What is the focus? Single specialty, multi specialty, etc • Companies / personnel to help with a new center if a group needs guidance. – Start a center with assistance? • Many companies assist with opening a center today for a percentage of profits. Ancillary Services • As spine surgeons you generate more than $2 to 4 million in revenue for a hospital and/ or surrounding medical community. • Much comes from ancillary services – Lab – Physical Therapy (PT) – Imaging – Bracing – Bone Growth Stimulation Ancillary Services • You can get a solid revenue stream from these sources as well. • No medicare! • PT ownership – Allows input into care style as well • Imaging– MRI ownership- Very common – Other imaging services- ? Dexa scanning, CT, etc Ancillary Services • Bone growth stimulators/ bracing – Unrecognized potential for growth, financial opportunity – Only use on cases you would have previously – Multilevel fusions, nonunions. • Standard indications Recovery Units/ SNFs • This is a growing field in the world of ASCs and outpatient medicine • Offer overnight and multiday stay units. – Allows excellent care that you and your partners can direct after larger procedures • Lumbar fusions, multilevel cervical fusions, hip and knee replacements, etc – Offers good chance to recoup income that usually goes to outside companies/ facilities Real Estate • Ownership of buildings/ land allows diversification – Ownership, either shared or solo, allows increased revenue, but also increased exposure – Allows long term revenue planning as well, as these “should” increase in value over time “Let People Know” Know” “Let People Know” Know” • Really this is marketing for spine surgeons/ practices, something most of us know little about. • The Four P’s of Marketing – Marketing involves an exchange relationship between a buyer and a seller – It is the innovative manner in which practices apply the four P’s that can differentiate success and failure. 4 P’ P’s of Marketing • • • • • The four P’s are: Product Price Placement Promotion Product • Goes with the “be good” mantra • Deliver a good product – Good care is key • Deliver a product that is in demand – Patients want new and cutting edge products – “Laser” surgery- we all get asked for it. Use these ideas, don’t fight them! Price • Soon we will all be judged by pricing as well • Bundling of procedures- its happening!! • Be ahead of the game – Work with hospitals to produce bundles • Better to be early in the game than late – Work with your ASC to bundle prices to market to consumers directly ie disc arthroplasty, etc. Place • Goes along with being different. • If your market is saturated, look to – underserved area – “captive audience”- Large company may want a clinic 1 day a week? GM, Ford, Nike, Nabisco….. • A new place is easily entered and will offer significant opportunity to a incoming surgeon/ pain specialist. – Outreach clinics Promotion • An ancient Chinese proverb states: “Don’t stand by the water and long for fish: go home and weave a net.” If you want customers, weave your net and surround your customers with it. • You want your name/ practice out there for all to see Promotion • Unfortunately promotion is key these days • Advertise, but advertise well… – Billboard? Probably not…. • Its okay but it casts a wide net and may not bring in patients you want • Expensive! – Gym or athletic club? Great idea. – Local Media is good as well • Local news loves good stories about new surgeries / ideas. Promotion • The internet? Of course! • This is where most patients start their search for care these days. – Your web site should be good – Your web site should offer something that patients need, not just fluff • Exercise plans, videos of surgeries, etc. Something that brings them in! • Costs money but easily recouped. Promotion • Other ideas for the net/ promotion – Smartphone apps – Google websearch promotion- you want your groups site to be found first, as most surfers are lazy! – QR codes on business cards/ flyers. Direct patients/ referring docs to your website Promotion • Most importantly, promote to your most important business generators… – Referring Docs! – Referring docs usually want two things: • A good doctor/ service for their patients • Accessibility • When docs reach out for guidance, you must be there and be ready to provide exceptional service. Promotion • Referring Docs (cont) – No one wants to wait a month before being seen- they will find another doc. • They will call their doc and tell them that your wait was too long also- and guess what…. Promotion – Therefore make your practice accessible for urgent referrals. • When new, do it yourself. See patients on short notice if it means working early/ late • If a doc calls me to see someone, I will always offer same day service, even if it kills us, because next time we will get their referral • When established, hire ancillary staff to help with this- NPs, PAs, etc. Coming Soon… Soon…. • The promise of consumer-driven healthcare has been touted for some time. • The market potential of an informed patient is envisioned as a “consumer” equipped with reasonable knowledge of the medical condition and armed with quality/ satisfaction metrics of both physician and healthcare organization and information about actual cost and pricing. Informed Consumers • More and more, patients will have access to clinical knowledge gleaned from medical websites, “disease related” forums on social media, evaluations of provider quality/satisfaction metrics from a host of websites, and eventually full financial transparency from most (if not all) healthcare providers Informed Consumers • The successful clinic/ practice will recognize and adapt early to this reality that patients will exponentially want to be involved as active participants in their own care. Internet Consumers • “In a competitive market, the successful practice will recognize the fundamentally changing nature of the physician-patient relationship. Some will embrace it. Some will bemoan it. But change is inevitable, and successful adaptors will do well to afford the opportunity such a patient presents” Summary • Back to the basics… – Be Good- Provide a good service that is well renowned – Be Different- Be willing to do something that sets you and your group apart • From procedures to ancillary services, there are many ways to be different – Let people know • Market yourself!! Go catch the fish… Thank you!