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Week 1: Roles of Databases, MS Access
Familiarity, and Requirements Gathering Discussion
Choosing a Database (graded)
1.
2.
3.
Microsoft Access is one of the most popular database platforms on the market. However, there are
many competitors. Why do you think that Access is so popular? What are some of the other types of
databases available?
Discuss the differences between Access and its competitors. Are there truly any differences or are they
the same technology implemented in different ways?
Do you think that Access can serve as a corporate database solution, or is it strictly a personal database
solution? What might be the difference between a personal and corporate database solution?
Responses
Response
Class:
Read
this
first.
Author
Professor Schiller
Date/Time
7/8/2012 12:26:44 PM
Class: On this subject of choosing a database, you will probably need to do some research in the
textbook and online for information. Remember that you need to post a link to your source, and that
you need to explain in your own words the main points or findings from your research and relate it to
the questions that are asked. Try to deal with the questions 1, 2, and 3 above in the form of a
separate running thread on each question.
RE:
Class:
Read Brittani Wigal
this
first.
7/10/2012 10:55:24 PM
http://www.rptsoftware.com/aboutus/microsoft_access_database/
In my opinion Access is popular because it is a Microsoft product. Microsoft
is well known and used by just about everyone. We even use these products
in school and chances are in a job we will typically use them too. Typically
these products are fast, easy to use and very reliable.
There are many other databases besides Access. It would take too much time
to list all of them, so I will name 10:
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4th Dimension
Helix
Linter
InterBase
Oracle
Dataphore
SQL
OpenBase
Greenplum
MonetDB
RE:
Class:
Read Charlotte Hagans
this
first.
7/11/2012 7:44:47 PM
I am agreeing with you that Access is user friendly and relatively
easy to use. There are numerous other databases out there, but I have
never used them. You have provided a good list of others available.
RE:
Class:
Read Sharon Gibson
this
first.
7/11/2012 3:54:47 PM
Brittani I agree that Access have many great and useful features. I
think that because technology is continually evolving; there is always
a new program coming out to make data entry more user friendly.
I’m sure that the ten databases that you named all seek out what their
competitors are lacking and try to make the product much better and
cost efficient.
RE:
Class:
Read Shannon Busse
this
7/12/2012 9:28:38 PM
first.
I am going to agree with you. Microsoft has a huge pull when it
comes to its software. Every computer you buy has Microsoft built
into it in some way. It is a complex bunch of programs that can be
very difficult to understand for some. Just because you get one does
not mean that you are going to get the next. Access is popular
because it can help make databases make sense. It is a little more
simple to use than others. It is popular probably because it also offers
a tutorial that allows the less knowledged person understand.
RE:
Class:
Read Rod Chapman
this
first.
7/11/2012 8:31:39 PM
Microsoft has a huge advantage in the software arena since it offers a solution for most of the
business needs of today, and the different pieces in the suite work fairly well together as far
as transferring data from one to another. I know I have purchased software from them
because of this and they offer a wide array of products to complete most business tasks.
RE:
Class:
Read Kenneth Joa
this
first.
7/9/2012 8:43:28 AM
A possible explanation to the popularity of the Access database is people's
familiarity with Microsoft products. They have been using them for a while
now and they are pretty common due to the abundance of computers with the
Windows OS. The fact that Access is pretty easy to use does not hinder its
case either though.
RE:
Class:
Read Staci Lee
this
first.
7/9/2012 1:40:52 PM
Well known DBMSs include Oracle, IBM DB2, Microsoft SQL Server,
Microsoft Access, PostgreSQL, MySQL, and SQLite.
It seems that access is probably the most popular because it is a Microsoft
product and developing a database in access can be less time consuming than
most other databases on the market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database
http://www.activelightning.com/database/compare.html
RE:
Class:
Read Professor Schiller
this
first.
7/9/2012 4:21:42 PM
Staci, Nice set of references!
RE:
Class:
Read Arlene Lazare
this
first.
7/8/2012 1:21:00 PM
Microsoft Access is a database that lets users to
make, manage and evaluate large records of
information. It is a popular program, whether your
needs are that of a small business owner handling the
company's info or a researcher that requires the
examining of a large data set. Using Access enables
you to import data from other programs such as Excel.
“Popular database management software applications
such as Paradox, Access, and dBASE 5 are utilized to
manage databases small enough to be stored on a
desktop computer. Some databases are so large that
that they must be stored on a server or mainframe
computer and accessed by going online. Some large,
public databases can be accessed online for a fee.
These are referred to as information utilities or
online services. You may have heard of or used some of
the more popular online services including America
Online, CompuServe, and Microsoft Network.”
http://www.personal.psu.edu/glh10/ist110/topic/topic07
/topic07_04.html
Copy and paste link to your browser.
RE:
Class:
Read Willeen Smith
this
first.
7/9/2012 7:39:36 PM
Arlene
I have to agree with what you said about sometimes a
database is so large it has to have it's on server. I know that
the company that I work for we have our own server at our
locations, then we have to access to send large files to our
mother company. Sometimes it takes a while because there
server is so far away and it's so much data that is being sent
from us to them. It really amazes me that you just click a
button and so much data can go from one place to another. I
feel that Access is so popular because it's a household name
that everybody know's and it's user friendly.
RE:
Class:
Read Arlene Lazare
this
first.
7/11/2012 5:49:57 AM
Hi Wileen,
We have our server as well but
that's understandable considering
the size of the company I work for.
I think Access is popular for the
reasons you mentioned but it is more
suitable for companies that are
small or mid-sized.
RE:
Class:
Read Staci Lee
this
first.
7/12/2012 7:08:55 AM
Thinking of database that is so large it has it's own server is
very intimidating. I can't imagine building that type of
database. However having the information stored for easy
retrievement is worth having this type of database.
RE:
Class:
Read Professor Schiller
this
first.
7/9/2012 4:23:15 PM
Arlene and Class: This is a good example of summarizing and
referencing an Internet source.
Question 1 Jennifer Reed
7/8/2012 3:03:07 PM
I am not too familiar with Access, but from what experience I have it seems fairly
easy to use and is available in the Microsoft package. Access is convenient for the at
home database user or a small business perhaps. I would assume that the cost of
Access is cheaper than another type of database. Databases are available for all types
and amounts of data. Access is considered a smaller scale database whereas Oracle,
Microsoft SQL Server and IBM DB2 are considered large scale database management
systems (Grauer et al., 2011).
Reference: Grauer, Robert T., Mast, Keith, Poatsy, Mary Anne, Frost, Raymond,
Day, John, Slyke, and Craig Van (). Database Design Essentials for Business for
DeVry University [2] (VitalSource Bookshelf), Retrieved from
http://online.vitalsource.com/books/9781256091646/id/pgF-6
RE:
Question Sean Mccauley
1
7/10/2012 6:56:09 PM
I also agree that Microsoft's name being related to the Access software gives
it a huge bump. Microsoft programs such as outlook and excel are highly
popular based on their ease of use and the Microsoft Office software. Access
is also part of the office software which can allow people access to the
program even though many people don't use or even know what Access is or
used for. Access is a desktop database program as opposed to being server
database program. Other types of desktop database software include
FileMaker Pro and Paradox among others. Without talking about server
database technology, some reason that Access may be popular is it's ease of
usage in comparison to others. FileMaker Pro for example has been used
with Mac systems mostly. It has only recently begun to make the jump to
other OS. FileMaker Pro also tries to be as user friendly as possible by easing
the difficulty of using the software. Paradox is also another desktop database
software. Although Paradox can be integrated with other types software, it is
said to not be as easily navigated as others.
RE:
Question Nicole Palazzolo
1
7/8/2012 3:31:28 PM
Jennifer I do not have much experience with Access either. The only time I
have used it was in one of my previous computer classes a few years ago at a
different university. It didn't seem easy to use at first, but it turns out that it is
very easy to use; however, I do not like it whatsoever! I prefer using Excel
worksheets as databases, they are much more easier to navigate through in my
opinion, also it could have been the Professor I had at the time that made me
not like the program.
RE:
Question Ashlie Ouellette
1
7/8/2012 4:33:41 PM
I'm also with you two above here and I haven't spent enough time
with microsoft access to know much of anything about it but i have
done a little research and this is what i found.
http://www.rptsoftware.com/aboutus/microsoft_access_database/
Mirosoft access is one of the highly used database, it is less
expensive then others, It is part of microsoft office.
i think its popular because you can download cheap version or use a
older version for free, even tho i haven't used access enough to think
its easy, it is easy to get around on the program and you can learn as
you go.
this is one of the smaller databases.
Some other databases would be SQL Server or Oracle.
RE:
Question Yesenia Lopez
1
7/14/2012 11:10:17 PM
I agree with you both. I would also ask about quantity and type of product because
the database has to be able to organize product information such as serial numbers,
product code, color, size, description, tracking numbers, etc. As the types of
products and quantity begin to expand a larger database would be more beneficial.
However, as a business that is starting off I would suggest using Access. I would
also ask “Who will be using the data?” if it is only going to be used by the owner
then I would stick with my recommendation of Access, but if the owner was
planning on having a team of employees access the data I would suggest using a
different database.
RE:
Question Kenneth Joa
1
7/11/2012 3:07:02 PM
I have not used it much as well, but I agree when I did use it, it was not
overly difficult and made the work I did a lot easier. I am not familiar with
the other database software due to the fact I have never used anything other
than Access for my database needs.
RE:
Question Kelly Dutcher
1
7/10/2012 10:03:43 PM
I think that Access is one of the most popular databases because it is
produced by Microsoft. I think in general Microsoft programs are extremely
user friendly and they have a great reputation associated with them. I know
that I as a consumer am more likely to choose a product based on it's good
reputation. I think Microsoft has a ton of available information for their users
which makes it appealing to consumers because they know they will be able
to get help or assistance if they need it. As far as other database software
available, I googled "alternatives to Microsoft Access" and found this
information: http://alternatives.rzero.com/db.html
RE:
Question Adam Rogers
1
7/12/2012 10:46:03 PM
The three main reasons for the popularity of the access program are its
availability, it is ease of use, and the Microsoft name.
PCs are a huge part of the home computer market, and they all run Microsoft
programs. Demo or trial versions of many programs, like access, come preinstalled on new PC purchases. For this reason Access is easy to get hold of.
Access is designed to be easy to use also. You don't have to know all of the
programming steps to get results from access, you chose a template, enter the
data, save, and then you are ready to start submitting queries. The last reason
is the Microsoft name. It's big, it's well known, and it's been around for a long
time so people trust it.
RE:
Question 1 Willeen Smith
7/8/2012 7:03:23 PM
Modified:7/10/2012 5:26 PM
I really can't say that access is the most popular database due to the fact that
I have not really used it. I have been using excel for so many years and it's
all that I really know. I did some research on Access from this website
called FMS World Class software Solutions. It tells you a lot about Access
and it has the goods and the bad's for the software. From the readings it says
that Access is the most popular.
The success of Access as the most popular database in the world is a
testament to its capabilities and the pervasive need for database solutions by
productivity workers. Access is the first weapon of choice when it comes to
relational databases because of its ability to quickly create useful database
solutions.
It may not have all the features scalability, performance, reliability, and
security of more sophisticated solutions, but for many situations, those
features are irrelevant or secondary to what Access offers. Access offers an
excellent solution for database challenges facing individuals, small teams,
and workgroups across a network. Some of the other types of databases are
Oracle, SQL Server, and Sybase. From the research that I have found all of
these are database systems, but from what I have read Access is the leader of
them all. I found another website talking about the different databases and
tells how they work.
The number of database challenges within an organization that can be solved
by Access is much larger than solutions solved by more complex and
expensive solutions. And over time, with the drop in hardware prices and
increases in performance, more and more database situations are solved by
Access.
Reference
http://www.wideyegroup.com/computers-and-technology/different-types-ofdatabase/
https://www.fmsinc.com/tpapers/genaccess/DBOD.asp
RE:
Question Nicole Palazzolo
7/9/2012 3:30:48 PM
1
Willeen,
I agree, in fact I don't know anyone that uses Access!
RE:
Question Kinja Cager
1
7/9/2012 4:15:33 PM
Willeen, thanks for the links. I personally do not use Access but I am
somewhat familiar. I have also heard that it is one of the most user friendly
when it comes to databases
week 1 Navdip Singh
7/9/2012 2:02:37 PM
Even though Excel is not a database, it is widely used to store data, and it is often used to solve simple database
problems. But, Excel is a "flat file database", not a relational database
Class:
Professor Schiller
7/9/2012 4:32:00 PM
As you move on to Questions 2 and 3 at the top of the Discussion Assignment, I
encourage you to share your experience or include research information from the
Internet. Remenber to include a few sentences of your own summarizing the research
information and the URL reference. Short one-sentence responses that do not add to
the discussion should not be used.
RE:
Class: David Lock
7/10/2012 9:23:45 PM
There are an enormous amount of database softwares, some of which are
industry specific. Access is used as a corporporate software and is rated well.
Some prefer Linux based database programs. Below are several reviews and
possible options within the web references.
http://reviews.cnet.com/1770-5_7-0.html?query=database+software
http://ezinearticles.com/?Business-Database-Software&id=4310177
http://products.howstuffworks.com/database-software-reviews.htm
RE:
Class: Professor Schiller
7/11/2012 2:30:07 PM
David, be sure to include a summary or some key points from
references when you include them in a posting. Otherwise, it leaves
the reader with the task of searching the site for something pertinent
to the questions.
RE:
Class: David Lock
7/12/2012 2:29:35 PM
The site offers consumer ratings of various software and
costs which give a balanced analysis of the value of funds
spent
Question 2 Yuri Lazare
7/9/2012 5:33:10 PM
One major difference between Access and its competitors is the database user
capacity. Access is a desktop based system and is ideal for home network databases or
at best small business use limited to fewer than 200 users. For more complex
databases that requires user access from multiple locations and a wide user base then
server based database systems would be appropriate. Many of the competing database
systems offer web based solutions to database management but are often more
complex to use and much more expensive than Access.
RE:
Question Rebeka Andrade
2
7/10/2012 8:43:31 PM
I think that the major difference between Access and the other major
competitors would have to be the scale of information or capacity it can hold.
Some of the mayor competitors for database would have to be like the big
companies like Oracle and IBM. I think in a way it is a form of the same
technology just in different formats and capacities. For example, the fact that
some of this technology is used for bigger and larger corporations.
RE:
Question Rod Chapman
2
7/14/2012 8:02:13 AM
Rebeka, I agree, according to the text Access is limited to a relatively small
amount of data and users compared to others that might be used in large scale
operations.
RE:
Question Joelle Yule
2
7/10/2012 3:50:33 PM
Further to yuri's point about Access being a desktop based system, I looked
online and found a comparison of FileMaker and MS Access. It appears as
though, similar to Access, FileMaker is for smaller use, but does have the
ability to create and store an overall larger database. The comparison
ultimately demonstrates in favor of FileMaker as it's their selling tool,
however it points out simplicity versus the need for perhaps additional
knowledge for Access. I feel as though I can attest to the need for further
training with Access as I don't have the confidence as I do have with Excel
for example. On the other hand, it might be in a user's best interest to have
more levels of design than FileMaker might offer. I don't have experience
with FileMaker, so I can't say that I am certain that it's just another way to set
up and facilitate database information retrieval. I think I tend to lean in the
direction that these programs do in fact leave the same end result, but it
would just be a matter of the the data is manipulated or organized within each
program. FileMaker, Inc. (2009). FileMaker and Microsoft Access: A criteriabased comparison. Retrieved from
http://www.filemaker.com/downloads/pdf/comparison_fm_access.pdf
RE:
Question Professor Schiller
2
7/10/2012 1:36:59 PM
Yuri, I agree that Access is best used by individuals or small businesses. One
critical factor is the number of simultaneous users which is way less than 200,
more like 25.
RE:
Question Ashlie Ouellette
2
7/10/2012 9:19:32 AM
The difference between access and other competitors is access is a desktop
database along with filemarker Pro which is used great for small businesses
or a single user. there are also server databases which are MySQL, Oracle
which are heavy duty databases for multiuser, and then you have web-enabled
databases which is with web interaction.
and work we have a server database that is what im used to working with, i
didn't even notice i started here and everyone would be like just save it to the
server and i will just open from their computer i was like really you can do
that. I had no clue
http://databases.about.com/od/administration/a/softwareoptions.htm
RE:
Question Jennifer Reed
2
7/10/2012 9:51:19 AM
I am not that familiar with databases so I had to do some research on this topic. In my
opinion, the most obvious difference between Access and its competitors is the fact that
Access is located on the desktop and the other larger scale databases such as SQL require a
server. When Access is purchased, it is ready to use; no additional software is required.
Access is stored on the computer. SQL is installed on a network server which results in a
client/server relationship for those who access the database. SQL server environments are
designed for more than one user at a time as opposed to Access; Access should be limited
to one user at a time.
Furthermore, SQL does not offer the forms or query wizard like Access. SQL will perform
the same functions but I think it designed for professionals that are already familiar with
these features. With Access, recovery of lost data is only possible if the database was
backed up to another drive by the user. SQL server has an automated back to a network
drive or disc.
In comparison of Access and SQL, I don't believe the differences are that great. They both
basically perform the same functions just in a slightly different way. Access seems to be
for first time users and SQL for large businesses and DBA's. It all depends on expertise
level and what is to be accomplished when deciding which database to use.
http://www.oncenter.com/support/faq/Differences_Between_MS_Access_(r)_and_SQL_(r
)_database_types.html
http://www.ehow.com/about_5380306_microsoft-access-vs-sql-server.html
RE:
Question Professor Schiller
2
7/11/2012 2:34:38 PM
Jennifer, Good point about ease of use of Access. The friendly
interfaces that do not require programming knowledge in Access
make it popular with non-programming users.
RE:
Question Kinja Cager
2
7/11/2012 9:11:24 AM
Jennifer , you make some very valid points when comparing Access
to other data bases such as SQL.. I really found your link to have a
lot of information in it ,that I was not aware of, I have been doing
research also since I do not have much working knowledge on
database software .
RE:
Question Willeen Smith
2
7/10/2012 5:50:04 PM
Jennifer
Good research, I really didn't know that it was so complicated
when you want to create data. Access is going to be a new
animal for me to tame. I see why huge companies have to use
a server to store all the data that they obtain. Also I didn't
know the name of the back up server was SQL, we have this
at my job I think I know that we have something called the G
drive and we were told that our computer was to crash all the
information that we stored on the G drive would not be lots.
So I am thinking that we have the SQL system in place to
store all of our data so it want get lost if our computers were
to crash.
RE:
Question Caromill Almanzar
2
7/12/2012 10:19:34 PM
Jennifer I agree with your inputs, adding to that:
Access is a great file management, it can easily recover files. It has
two great functions that protects the data: compact - repair and
backup; where the compact - repair reduces the size of the database
and the backup creates a duplicate copy of the database.
Access makes life easier when editing a record or file.
After several readings I think that there is not much difference
between other databases, for example Oracle does all similar
technology as Access. The major advantage that I see in Access that
in time of learning is the easiest database to learn and handle. Well I
am saying by starting in this class. I have never use Access before.
RE:
Question Kelly Dutcher
2
7/11/2012 9:05:15 PM
I think generally speaking Access and it's competitors are the same
technology implemented in different ways. While everyone has made the
comments about where the program is run and stored, or how many users can
be active and so on, they forget that each one of these programs have the
same capabilities and intentions. All the programs are made to store data, but
each program has it's own advantages and disadvantages. The creator will
have to decide what the specific néeds if the end user are and which database
program is best equipped to handle their needs.
RE:
Question Adam Rogers
2
7/14/2012 10:30:30 PM
Access is good at what it is. A general multi-purpose database program. It can
handle much larger sets of data than Excel and have related tables which
Excel isn't very good at. However it is still designed with everyone in mind.
Companies with truly massive databases use database programs specifically
designed for their needs. I think Oracle is one of the programs that is better
for big database using businesses. So it may be similar technology behind the
different programs, but they have been optimized for different functionality.
Access
Deanna Clavell
7/9/2012 7:21:19 PM
Access is the most popular because it is provided with most microsoft applications for
businesses. Access is not very user friendly, unless you have extensive training on it. I
have used Crystal Reports which can be used for databases and absolutely enjoy
working with it. Where I currently work they use Questys, which I am not too familiar
with but Access is easier to use.
RE:
Access Lorrie Sullivan
7/10/2012 2:17:33 PM
I found this comparison to share:
Why Choose Microsoft Access?
Microsoft Access is the most widely used desktop database system in the
world.
Microsoft Access is part of Microsoft Office so there is a common interface and
lots of developers and support options available.
You can use the free Microsoft Access 2007 runtime.
Microsoft Access is significantly less expensive than either SQL Server or
Oracle.
Typical development times for custom databases using a qualified consultant
(such as RPT Software) are days. Doing similar development using other tools
such as .net or building a web-based system would typical be multiples of the
time required.
Third party support for Microsoft Access databases is very common. Example:
interfaces to external databases etc...
If you need a database that serves your needs and Microsoft Access is a
viable option, it is probably the fastest and least expensive way to get your goals
accomplished.
Why NOT to Choose Microsoft Access?
You have determined that you need a web-based system.
You have too many concurrent users. Technical limit is 255 concurrent users,
but real world limit is 10 to 80 (depending on type of application).
Your users are geographically spread too far and you do not want to use
remote control solutions to get around this limitation.
You have users on Macintosh computers (consider Filemaker).
Your database will be too big to work with Microsoft Access. Usually if you
know that something will be over a million records, you might be getting into this
situation.
Credit: http://www.rptsoftware.com/aboutus/microsoft_access_database/
RE:
Access Professor Schiller
7/11/2012 2:36:24 PM
Class, this is an excellent comparison. You might want to make a
copy of it for future reference.
RE:
Access Ashlie Ouellette
7/11/2012 8:01:39 PM
Thanks for sharing this wih us , this a great idea to look out an check
out since we will be working with access.
RE:
Access Charlotte Hagans
7/13/2012 10:32:49 AM
I am learning a lot this week. I knew a lot of people choose access
because of it being user friendly and easy to use. I didn't think about
the cost compared to others. Even though I guess it makes sense
since it is used more for small businesses and individuals than large
companies.
RE:
Access Nicole Palazzolo
7/10/2012 3:16:13 PM
Deanna,
I agree when you say that Access is not very user friendly. I took a 16 week
college course on Access and it was easy in some senses, but difficult and
confusing in others. I think there are a lot of people don't use it and that
includes the instructor I had. He often got very confused while using it as
well.
RE:
Access Shannon Busse
7/14/2012 7:19:30 PM
I agree totally. I am not familiar with Access at all. I had to use it
partially in another course and hard an extremely hard time using it.
Other people in the course seemed to know exactly what the
professor was telling them to do. Not at all in this class is it going to
be easy. I am going to take my time and try to figure it out. I hope
that I do not fall behind or have to ask for too much help. Never do I
mind asking for help but learning on my own would be a great
feeling.
RE:
Access Mark Ramsey
7/10/2012 8:14:39 PM
Access can fill a niche and can actually be an asset if you know how
and when to use it. Access, when used correctly can be an alternative
to the larger database systems. Access can help meet company’s
needs and budgets.
RE:
Access Sara Floodberg
7/11/2012 11:38:02 AM
We used Access in my pervious job. I worked at IndyMac
Bank. We had one person designing the database, two team
leads, one boss above them and at least 20 coworkers using
the database. The users would be able to only enter data and
see the whole fill per customer. The data would display all
their mortgage info plus what we were offering them. We
updated the information into the notes. At the end of the day
the designer would update the information and print the
reports the team leads and bosses needed. This was very
beneficial to the company.
I think in corporate world is can serve on small department
solutions, but it really depends on the size of the company. I
created an Access database for my personal use at a previous
job and one for the warehouse department. The company
was Mohawk Inc (Carpet) so it was fairly large. I don't think
that as a company like Bank of America it would be very
useful though to small and the ability for many people hands
to get into the data is probably not okay!
I like Access, but I there are so many different ways to set it
up sometimes I get to deep. I am new to Access, so I am
hoping to learn a lot from this!
RE:
Access Professor Schiller
7/11/2012 2:43:15 PM
Sara, thanks for sharing your work experiences with
databases. Class: Anyone else have experience with
databases?
RE:
Access Sharon Gibson
7/15/2012 6:35:04 PM
Sara I agree with you; I have been reading
some reviews on Access and it was stating
that it would be a great database to use no
matter what setting. Whether it is in cooperate
or someone starting a small business.
Class:
RE:
Read
this
first
Jb Avery
7/10/2012 8:05:07 AM
Some other databases are MS SQL, and SQL.
Microsoft access comes with microsoft office professional. Microsoft access
inetergrate tightly with microsoft office. microsoft office can be used to build
applications rapidly to ssave you money.
The
differance
between
Staci Lee
7/10/2012 11:16:38 AM
access and
competitors
One major difference in access verse its competitors is that it may only take 16-20
hours to build the database with access and most of the competitors can take at least
22 hours but usually double that amount of time.
RE: The
differance
between
Professor Schiller
access and
competitors
7/10/2012 1:38:27 PM
Staci, What is the reference for your figures on time to build a database?
Question 2 Willeen Smith
7/10/2012 5:43:18 PM
2. Discuss the differences between Access and it's competitors. Are there
truly any differences or are they the same technology implemented in
different ways?
To answer this one I really could not come up with anything that I know
about Access because this will be a first time using this software. I know
more about excel and word. I had to do some research on this one. I found
that it's really a lot of other database out there that very large companies
use. These companies use the large ones to hold more data then what
Access can hold. The article that I found compared Access and Oracle.
Difference One:
Access is a small database system, which will allow you to create a smallmedium sized database with minimum security features. Oracle can be
integrated with NT security, which gives tight control over who can and cant
get to your data.
Difference Two:
Access is a lot slower over networks as all the processing is performed on
the client machine, whereas with a large DBMS like Oracle (Or SQL
Server), you send only a query (such as "SELECT * FROM Customers
WHERE CustID=23;"), and only the required results are returned. If you ran
this across a network with Access, all the records would be sent across the
network, leaving the client machine to select the required record.
Difference Three:
Access gets really slow if you try to connect more than 10 users (depending
on the size of the DB and how it is being utilized), where are Oracle can
accept hundreds/thousands of simultaneous connections (Depending upon
the server it is sitting on).
The final major difference is that of triggers and stored procedures. Access
can NOT store procedures which can be executed remotely. You can write
functions and with a bit of "jiggery-pokery" get the server side to execute
them vy setting flags or something in your database and getting the server to
check at pre-defined intervals if the flag is set. With Oracle/(Other Large
DBMS's) you can call the stored procedures and they will be executed on
command on the server side. Triggers are like events on an Access form,
such as "After-Update". When you update a record into Oracle, you can set
triggers to automatically run procedures to check for pre-defined rules or
whatever.
Oh yeah, and Oracle will cost you an arm an a leg in money and setup/maintenance time.
For small databases, where only 1 or 2 users need to access the data, I
recommend Access, for Enterprize-size solutions, you really need A Server
DBMS such as Oracle/SQL Server.
Reference
http://www.programmersheaven.com/mb/database/52997/52997/differencebetween-access-and-oracle/
RE:
Question Sean Mccauley
2
7/11/2012 6:41:21 PM
Access has its subtle differences from competitors based on how the software
itself is set up. That being said, from what I can tell most of the other types
of software the same general technology, just implemented in different ways.
The most obvious difference would the the Microsoft "design" that Access
has. Millions of people utilize Windows programs such as word and excel
every day, sometimes multiple times a day. Access has a similar set up to its
icons and navigational aspects, thus immediately offering a more comfortable
approach given that it will be familiar. As others have stated, Access also
gives the ability to include 255 users but is best used with about 20. Another
huge advantage that Access has to other databases is the support offered by
Microsoft. Since Access has become the largest used database, the Microsoft
network offers the same support system that is offers with all other Microsoft
products. A "behind the scenes" advantage of Access is the cost associated
with it. Many computers are coming pre-loaded with Microsoft Office which
includes Microsoft Access. This basically makes the software free for those
who purchase a pre-loaded machine. Other types of software can cost from a
few hundred to thousands depending on the scale of the database needs.
http://databases.about.com/od/administration/a/softwareoptions.htm
http://www.access-programmers.com/cost-benefits.aspx
RE:
Question Sara Floodberg
2
7/14/2012 8:01:18 PM
I think as a company gets bigger the cost for oracle wont seem like such an
arm and a leg! I agree that the 'enterprize-size' would need Oracle/SQL
Servers! I am not familiar really wit Oracle, I looked at the website and I was
quite impressed with the abilities it has, not to mention it adds and increased
security. I think I would want it just for all the fun I can have with it! LOL!
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/sql-developer/what-issqldev-093866.html
RE:
Question 1 Caromill Almanzar
7/10/2012 9:56:55 PM
Modified:7/10/2012 9:57 PM
1a) Access is so popular because when used correctly, it provides an excellent
alternative to larger databases.
1b)Some other types are:
a) flat-file style of database are ideal for small amounts of data that needs to be human
readable or edited by hand.
b) Database Management Layer allows programmers to store information as a pair of
strings; a key, which is used to find the associated value.
c) The relational databases such as MySQL, Microsoft SQL Server and Oracle, have a
much more logical structure in the way that it stores data. Tables can be used to
represent real world objects, with each field acting like an attribute.
http://www.theonestopwebsiteshop.com/web-design/database-type.htm
Question 2 Yesenia Lopez
7/10/2012 11:55:57 PM
I believe one of the main differences between Access and other database softwares is
the size and number of users the software supports. Access is mostly used as a single
user database because it can not come close in supporting the same amount of users
other systems such as Oracle does. I know that Access would not be beneficial for
franchises that need access to the same database across the country. Access would be
more compatible in a small business setting with a limited number of users.
Class, An
additional
question...
Professor Schiller
7/11/2012 2:49:35 PM
Suppose a friend came to you who was planning to start an ecommerce business selling products
online. Based on our discussions so far, and any additional research you want to do, which package and
which database would you recommend, and why? Would you want to ask your friend any questions
before making a recommendation, and if so, what would they be?
RE: Class,
An
additional Nicole Palazzolo
question...
7/12/2012 3:22:14 PM
I would definatley say quantity is a big question. When I look on amazon for
a product or even our vendors website I am going to go with the seller that
has the most product on hand so I don't have to wait for my product. I would
definatley use Access for this particular database.
RE:
Class, An
additional Sara Floodberg
question...
7/13/2012 2:40:08 PM
I agree that quantity is a top question. I think it would also be
important to know what kind of product, the size or amount of
business expected and how many people are planned employees. I
personally would start out with access, as the company grew I would
probably switch then.
RE: Class,
An
additional Brittani Wigal
question...
7/12/2012 10:44:52 PM
If a friend came to me I would recommend using Access. I cannot say that I
have used any other program besides Access. Although starting out I would
recommend them use it.
Why you would want to use Access:
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It's cheap
It's easy
Development costs less
Great way to show fast results
Easy to up size from Access to an SQL Server
It's flexible
It is part of Microsoft Office so you can use it with Word, etc.
Less Code
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-reasons-to-use-access-and-afew-reasons-not-to/401
I do not think that as of right now I would ask questions before making the
recommendation. This is because Access is the only one I have used
personally. I also have never used Access in anything other than school.
RE: Class,
An
additional Deanna Clavell
question...
7/11/2012 8:14:31 PM
I would have a lot of questions to ask first. You need to know what
information they are trying to keep and the quantity of said products. What do
they want to determine by keeping this information in databases. I would
recommend Microsoft Access as a beginning tool.
RE:
Class, An
additional Mark Ramsey
question...
7/12/2012 6:25:49 PM
I would have to agree with Deanna that information is the key in
finding the correct tool/database for the "friend". Also, for a start up
business Access would be an great way to go, if the business ends up
going bigger you can always reevaluate the database at that time.
RE:
Class, An
additional Ashlie Ouellette
question...
7/12/2012 8:08:30 AM
These are great questions to ask, a few more i would add would be is
this products that are going to be for any age you will need to have a
web based database, and something that everyone could use easily. I
think access might not be a big enough database if you are going to
be doing it online and to everyone then you may need a bigger data
base, but just to start out you could prolly use access until you see
how the business will go.
RE:
Class, An
additional Arlene Lazare
question...
7/12/2012 12:56:13
PM
Starting an online eCommerce business does not
necessarily mean you must spend a lot for the start-up
cost that’s normally involved in opening a business.
The website for your business must exist somewhere
online therefore; you need to find a host. Some
hosting plans for small companies offer comparable
sorts, which mainly offer unlimited storage space,
support for common databases and publishing systems,
and anywhere from a few gigabytes to 2 terabytes of
data transfer per month. When choosing a host, you can
look-up reviews of current or previous customers to
see if the host best fit your needs.
“How to pick one from the dozens out there? Look for
reviews from recent users, with a particular focus on
how quickly the host resolves problems and how often
the service goes down. If you expect sudden, big
influxes of traffic due to promotions or Digg-like
flooding, you'll want to ensure that the host can
handle it. Ask about these issues if the company
doesn't have written policies.”
“If you're planning to sell a lot of physical goods,
you'll need a service that can handle e-commerce
transactions, process credit cards, and provide
security for both. Setting all of this up on your own
server is an expensive, time-consuming task laden with
security risks. It's best to outsource the functions
to a hosted service targeted at merchants. Such
services can be surprisingly affordable. Yahoo's
popular Merchant Solutions start at $40 a month. Ecommerce sites at Netfirms start at a mere $15 a
month. You can customize both extensively to match
your desired look and feel.”
Bottom line is, it best to do thorough research and do
careful research before proceeding to ensure that the
needs of your business are met however; it’s quite
clear that is not essential to have a lot of money to
start off your e-commerce business.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/153311/h
ow_to_start_an_online_business_for_100.html
RE:
Class, An
additional Professor Schiller
question...
7/12/2012 3:58:31
PM
Arlene, Excellent reference material pertinent to the
question.
week 1 Navdip Singh
7/11/2012 2:58:16 PM
The differences are that Microsoft Access is a database a program used to store
relational information in the computer and retrieve parts of it according to a
user's. need. and i belive that Some of its competitors are mysql and Oracle
RE:
week Lemmesha Wilbert-James
1
7/14/2012 7:27:11 PM
That is true it is a data base but you can use excel with Access as well with
the information that is provided in excel.
Choosing a
Lemmesha Wilbert-James
Database
7/11/2012 4:40:07 PM
1. Access is more important because it's more organized than Excel which is the only
one I know that is their competitor. It is also popular because you can always get to it
faster. The only other database I know is Excel.
2. Access is the same as Excel just the difference is you can't change the data in
Access like you would in Excel. You also are limited in Excel on how many things
you can record versus in Access there is no limit. If anything they both work the same
just different setup.
3. Access can be served for personal and corporate it does not just serve one purpose.
Personal database would be something that you would use for personal use or your
personal business and for corporate database it very different.
Question 3 Willeen Smith
7/11/2012 8:29:45 PM
3. Do you think that Access can sere as a corporate database solution, or is it
strictly a personal database solution? What might be the difference between
a personal and corporate database solution?
I really can't say that it would be, because like I said before I really don't
know a lot about Access and what I have been researching about it. From
the research that I have done it says that Access could be a corporate
database solution. That it wouldn't cost a company a hole lot of money
compared to all the other expensive database that most corporate companies
use. It also says that its user friendly and that it does self fix it. But from
what I read it's not as large as the databases that are used in the corporate
settings. I feel from the reading that if Access could handle the big load of
data that corporate business have it could be the answer. I read so much
from the wesite below regarding all the good things about Access.
Personally I am stuck the past I really like excel.
Reference
https://www.fmsinc.com/tpapers/genaccess/DBOD.asp
RE:
Question Kenneth Joa
3
7/12/2012 1:53:31 PM
Just based on utility alone it could be used in some small capacity for
corporate settings, but there like Willeen said are databases that are larger for
the explicit purpose of holding, manipulating, and just dealing with a lot more
data. It does not really make sense for a corporation to waste its resources on
a program that will not best serve its needs. They need the most storage for
the dollar they are spending and they need a database that can handle a lot of
data for sales and numerous other functions.
RE:
Question Lorrie Sullivan
3
7/13/2012 8:05:47 PM
I agree with kenneth. The size of the corporation is the key factor I
think. We have a non profit animal rescue group that I help out with
as far as the computer side of it. They wanted a database in Access,
but I still have not learned how to do this yet... probably soon
though... I believe they use excel and just make spreadsheets. Then
they have utilized the database functions of constant contact and also
facebook "fans" etc., to gather leads for various reasons. At any rate,
a non profit like this would benefit greatly from Access database.
Even though they have many volunteers that would use it, I think it
would suit them well without being too much of an expense. I would
also like to use access for my own business, instead of using
quickbooks online, which I pay a monthly fee for.
The company my husband works for uses SWRemote, a database
designed by industry, it is sort of a pre-fabricated database based on
the industry you work in, whether it be automotive or HVAC, etc.
RE:
Question Navdip Singh
3
7/12/2012 4:01:43 PM
A properly designed database provides you with access to up-to-date,
accurate information. Because a correct design is essential to achieving your
goals in working with a database
RE:
Question Deanna Clavell
3
7/12/2012 8:51:20 PM
Access can serve as a database for corporations although they require alot of
maintenance and main hours to keep up to date. The load of information may
be way more than access is meant to handle. Access is much better for
reporting of small things and more for personal use. A corporate database will
most likely include inventory, employees, assets, and stock and bond info.
The information in any of these categories can be extremely overwhelming
and a huge undertaking. A personal database can most likely include
information on high dollar items such as electronics, and jewelry.
RE:
Question Charlotte Hagans
3
7/15/2012 7:00:43 PM
This is where tech support would be kept busy. You are correct it
would take a lot more service to keep an access database up to date
for corporations. I do know of one corporation in particular JLG
Industries that does use a access database.
RE:
Question Rebeka Andrade
3
7/11/2012 11:16:50 PM
Question 3: Do you think that Access can serve as a corporate database
solution, or is it strictly a personal database solution? What might be the
difference between a personal and corporate database solution?
I think that Access can serve as a corporate database solution as well, but
probably with a small business or for an entrepreneur with their own
business. I think that if it came down to a big corporation or company, it
would probably have the same functions as Access but at a much larger scale.
RE:
Question Jennifer Reed
3
7/12/2012 6:10:39 AM
Modified:7/12/2012 6:17 AM
My first thought about a large corporation using Access as a database was
that it would be a bad idea. I say this because of the facts that have been
pointed out about access in this discussion; such as the amount of users and
data it can hold. So why would a large corporation use Access? According to
Luke Chung, FMS Inc., Access can in fact be used in large corporations.
Access would be ideal in a corporation especially for the users that aren't
familiar with other sophisticated databases, such as Oracle. As for the
corporation as a whole, Access will maximize return on investment. The
Access Simple multi user platform costs roughly $10,000 compared to SQL
Server at $ 500,000 with Oracle and IBM db2 at approximately $ 2,000,000.
Along with ROI, Access allows for rapid application development, integrates
with Microsoft Office and simple data entry for those that are not familiar
with databases.
Databases are constantly evolving and changing. "Access supports the
migration of Jet to SQL server while preserving the application development
investment" (Chung, L. n.d.). Access supports growth of the database and
system. Access can support up to 2 GB of data; as the database grows it can
be migrated to the SQL server.
Access presents many benefits for corporations. However, there is one major
disadvantage to using Access in a corporation. Security and data integrity are
not as great in Access as compared to SQL Server. Therefore, if Access is to
be used in a corporate setting, daily database maintenance (compacts &
backups) are critical to the corporation.
After reading this research, I am still not totally convinced that Access could
be used in a large corporation. It seems that it would depend on the amount
data and users. As the article stated, many people are still using Excel to store
data. Some may use Access and some may use Excel. If there is an enormous
of data from the beginning to be stored in a database, I think a larger database
would be more appropriate. But, there is the dilemma of end users not having
enough knowledge of the particular database to operate it efficiently and
effectively.
Reference: Chung, L. (n.d.). Database Evolution: Microsoft Access within
an Organization's Database Strategy. Retrieved from:
http://www.fmsinc.com/microsoftaccess/strategy/index.asp
RE:
Question Professor Schiller
3
7/12/2012 4:03:38 PM
Jennifer, Another good research input! An Access savvy user in a
corporation could probably find some applications that don't require
the heavy artillery and can be implemented quickly, altough Excel
can be stretched to cover some one-table applications.
RE:
Question Joelle Yule
3
7/14/2012 11:10:06 AM
I've been contemplating the idea that it's ok for larger
companies, but limited simply to the uses within. For
example, at my previous company, we used an EDI program
for our order entry. Our customers would log in and
essentially place their own orders or submit their own PO's.
Our smaller customers would simply pick up the phone and
call order entry or fax it in. To me, this EDI program was
designed for a larger use. However, that being said, we used
Access nearly daily. We used it more to communicate with
different departments, then for reporting. The reporting was
actually incredibly basic compared to the info we had to
input. For example, I had to enter my customer, what
product line, what product, the type of discount it was, the
amount of cases it applied to, the start date, the end date,
whether or not it did end (annual deal for example) and then
the rate. This communicated with my deductions team what
deals I was offering. We used this for EVERY account that
did business with us, small or large. The only reporting that
came from this database was regarding when I inputted it
versus start date so they could see how much lead time I was
offering, or how many times is was a late entry. This seems
to me to be an example of using Access incorrectly, when
we should have been looking at a larger data base program
that may have been able to report better on how much each
customer was getting. Again, it all comes down to purpose.
RE:
Question Christopher Johnson
3
7/13/2012 11:14:49 PM
I think access could be like for an independent
contractor, small business, or personal use. Access
would be definitely cool for a small business and
independent contractor more so than personal. There
are a lot of programs out there for a more personal
approach that is user friendly compared to Access so I
would use another program.
RE:
Question Ashlie Ouellette
3
7/13/2012 8:14:15 AM
I do think access can be used in larger companies just
depends what this company needs to do or wants to do with
their database, Access can't make web- pages so if you think
maybe in down the road that might be an option i wouldn't
spend money on access and then have to use another
database for creating webpages. Access is the cheaper way
to go for companys to use and i think as long as you limit
what you want to use in your data base and not have alot of
different numbers and information that you don't need then
it will be fine with Access.
here is a website i found below that has information like
what access cann't do things that business should look at
before they choose access.
http://www.fmsinc.com/microsoftaccess/Strategy/
RE:
Question Yuri Lazare
3
7/12/2012 2:27:11 PM
I agree with you Jennifer, I am not convinced Access would suitable
for a large corporation unless of course if their database would have
few employees who have access to it. Within large organizations I
can however see Access coming to play in inter-department
situations. For example in the last bank I worked for each branch had
a local drive which was divided up by departments. The local drive
was accessible only to employees of that branch but employees could
only access their department's section of the drive. The lending
department for example would often have an Excel document of
pipeline loan in divided up by categories like negotiating, processing,
awaiting approval, and awaiting disburstment, which would be
updated by any of the lenders. In such a situation I can definitely see
how using Access would be an advantage over Excel for large
corporations.
RE:
Question Kelly Dutcher
3
7/14/2012 7:51:40 PM
I think the successful use of Access by a corporation depends upon 2 main
things: how large the database will be (how much information will be stored)
and how many users will have access to the database. If the information
which the database holds can be compact and not grow to an enormous size
and the number of users that have access to the database are limited then I do
believe that Access could work for a corporation. However, I think one of the
best reasons to use a database is because sometimes the information which
you are storing gets out of hand and grows to a size that is unmanageable in
another program. For this purpose I would definately consider using a
database that can handle a large amount of data in case of unforseen additions
to the stored data which could come about in a larger corporation. But as we
discussed previously, if the creator of the database has given ample thought to
the creation of the database then they should be able to determine whether
Access would be a suitable database program to fit their needs.
RE:
Question Nicole Palazzolo
7/13/2012 2:51:39 PM
3
Willeen,
I agree with what you said. I personally don't like it, but then again I haven't
used it to it's full extent, just in a 16 week class setting. It seems like it would
be the ideal choice to use in a corporate setting because it is very organized
and thorough; however, I don't think it would be ideal in the sense that it
probably wouldn't be able to hold as much information as it would need to
being a corporate database solution.
RE:
Question Brittani Wigal
3
7/14/2012 10:32:02 PM
I have quite a bit of experience with Access. I had to use it for 2 years while
getting my vocational degree in Computer Graphics. I like Access and I think
it is very easy to use. In my opinion Access could be used as a corporate
database solution. Although, it probably should only be used for a smaller
company. A larger company might need to have a database that can hold
more data. Also, I do not have experience in an actual career setting that
involves Access. The company I previously worked for used a different
database. Different companies will use different databases to fit their needs.
RE:
Question Rod Chapman
3
7/15/2012 12:41:18 PM
From what I have read in the text, it sounds like Access is very limited in the amount of data
that it can handle. Not sure why, but if this could be increased in some way, then I would
think that Access could be used in a corporate setting.
Question 3 Caromill Almanzar
7/12/2012 10:34:47 PM
In my personal opinion Access can be use for corporation as well, of course
depending on the size of the corporation and the use for it. Now Access will not be a
good database if:
1) The company would regularly have more than 15 people actively using the
database at the same time - for example quick data entry and/or queries and reports.
2) The company database servers experience periodic, unexpected crashes - e.g. more
than 1 per month (in this case you'll have problems with any database system).
3) The company requires extensive database security because of the highly sensitive
nature of the data. (Although you can get around this issue by using SQL Server as the
database engine with an Access front-end.)
4) The company needs to run multiple Access databases, some with Access security
enabled and some without.
For personal will be less file to manage and also that Ms Access integrates well with
the other members of the Microsoft Office suite of products (Excel, Word, Outlook,
etc.), which is a form of advantage to get the whole package. For the corporate I have
defined as above.
http://www.blueclaw-db.com/microsoft_access.htm
RE:
Question Sean Mccauley
3
7/13/2012 3:25:19 PM
I think that so far, most of us are in agreement that Access COULD be used
for a corporation. However, it depends on several factors of the corporation
itself including the size, number of users, etc. At the end of the day Access is
still a desktop database program. It has size limitations which immediately
could place a barrier of usage for larger corporations. The point of a database
is to be able to gather information as needed and utilize the data to be
advantageous for the business. If the corporation has rolling data (data that is
constantly being collected), Access would likely not be able to keep all the
data and would have to filter older data out in order to be used successfully.
For that reason, Access places many limitations on its flexibility in use for
large corporations.
differences
between
Access and its Mark Ramsey
competitors
7/13/2012 5:33:55 PM
As with all products they have there own pros and cons, but there is a big difference
between Access and other databases that i've seen in my many years. I would have to
agree with the class that Access is better for home and small business.When we start
to look at some of the larger business the databases are/can be more complex. It really
comes down to how much money they put into the system.
Something that I have seen over and over again are Businesses trying to save money
by paying for a cheap database, only finding out that they should have paid the extra
money to get the correct one in the first place. the issues and headaches can be felt
throughout the entire company.
RE:
differences
between
Access and Lemmesha Wilbert-James
its
competitors
7/13/2012 8:06:24 PM
I agree that is so true how business always want to take the easy way out or
something less to keep their business running smoothly but instead is hurting
the employees who have to work with the programs that they have.
RE:
differences
between
Access and Rebeka Andrade
its
competitors
7/13/2012 10:11:47 PM
That is very true, I used to work at an office where they needed to make
frequent orders for supplies and they didn't want to pay for the necessary
items because they were expensive, then we couldn't fulfill some tasks. Of
course, all database softwares have their pros and cons, but if you don't get
the right software from the start, then certain tasks or jobs will not be
fulfilled. It is worth investing in a good business professional database to
accomplish all jobs.
RE:
differences
between
Access and Joelle Yule
its
competitors
7/15/2012 11:49:58 AM
Great point regarding new options, however, to your point, it seems
that the costs associated are incredibly steep. I certainly don't want to
stick up for the companies that don't upgrade, but things change so
fast. If a company upgraded each time a new version of Windows
came out, it would be a huge expense, only to have to revisit the
upgrade in the future. In addition to just the software, there is
training. Here we are paying to be educated, but many companies
would have to pay for all employees to be educated.
I want to throw an experience out there. I recently changed jobs (4th
week starts tomorrow) and I went from a company that did Asset
Surveys where they did a bunch of processes on your computer
remotely, timed it, and determined if you needed a new computer.
No jokes, I used to take about 15 minutes per page to move in a
PowerPoint presentation that was about 4GB. I still didn't get an
upgrade because my computer was less than three years old. The
company I work for now believes in staying up to date, and has
recently changed their customer database software. Their old system
was just old and they decided to incorporate a couple of systems
together so that various areas could "talk". As it turned out, the
company lost incredible amounts of money. They are invoicing now
what should have been invoiced last June, and on large amounts
($250k and up to about $2M). Their public shares dropped due to
losing customers and they don't know which bills have been paid.
They eventually went back to the old software, but it's only
temporary. It's important to note that a change in software or an
upgrade could be more costly than the actual software. For me, I am
fortunate that I am coming in and learning this "awful" new software,
that really isn't too bad. It's all a matter of perception.
RE:
differences
between
Access and Caromill Almanzar
its
competitors
7/15/2012 5:08:41 PM
I agree with you Rebeka, finding the right database software is the
key to in a company. I think also having a great IT team will help as
well, as long as they are knowledgeable of all databases softwares
that are out there. But also when creating the business it needs to
always be projected how much data wants to handle or will handle,
so in this case it can be picked the right one, so later there are no as
many crashes and lost data as it is use to happen in most companies.
RE:
differences
between
Access and Kinja Cager
its
competitors
7/14/2012 7:30:02 AM
Rebeka,
I totaly agree with as well. Companies should invest in adequate
software and have a efficient database in place in order to make
things run smoothly and to be able to fulfill their customers request
in a timely fashion. It is bad for business if you can not get
an product or service fulfilled due to a gliche in the company
database and or software
RE:
differences
between
Access and Yuri Lazare
its
competitors
7/15/2012 6:41:09 PM
Employers need to realize that one cannot put a price on efficiency and invest
in a proper database despite the initial cost. In my role a a banker who would
review the financial statements of my clients I would often see businesses of
similar size having radically different annual cost for employee wages. In
most cases we could tie it down to inefficiency in their database system
which resulted in high over-time cost. Investing upfront in a good system will
save you money in the long run.
RE:
differences
between
Access and Sharon Gibson
its
competitors
7/14/2012 8:14:07 PM
Mark I totally agree with you. I believe that my company are one of
those that you described in your post;Cheap. I can tell the difference
too. There are so many errors and dissatisfied customers because of
the lack of database investment. I am looking forward to using
access and seeing what features they offer.
WrapupChoosing a Professor Schiller
Database
7/14/2012 1:41:03 PM
Thanks for all your participation to get us off to a running start. This week, we
covered several different types of database management systems. For
personal/desktop databases on the Windows platform, MS Access is definitely the
market leader. On other platforms, such as Mac OS X and Linux, there are other
options. There are also some specialized database programs like ACT! for managing
contacts.
For larger database systems that can work for a medium to large size company, there
are several alternatives. MS SQL Server, Oracle, IBM DB2, and MySQL are some of
the choices.
All of these options are relational databases, which means they all store data in tables
and can keep track of links or relationships between records in different tables (such
as linking Customer records to the Orders placed by each customer). They also all use
queries, forms, and reports, and follow the same principles of good database design.
So most of what we learn by working with Access will also apply to other database
applications.
In Week 2 we will be talking more about how to draw ER diagrams as blueprints for a
database, and how to design our database tables to store and retrieve data efficiently.
I'll see you there.
RE:
WrapupChoosing Shannon Busse
a
Database
7/15/2012 8:04:56 PM
This is going to be exciting I'm guessing. There is so much to learn and I am
not familiar with Access. ER diagrams are very interesting.
RE:
WrapupChoosing Lorrie Sullivan
a
Database
7/15/2012 8:31:25 PM
I wish I could contribute more to the end of this discussion, but unfortunately
I have yet to finish my assignments because of unforeseen computer &
technical issues. At any rate, I am plugging away and will get done as much
as I can. It would have been great to know that I would have needed the
Visio program earlier on when I registered for class, I asked about all of that
and they just said everything I need will be here. Even after I downloaded the
free software I still was unable to use it, I have to burn the file to a disc before
it can be installed to my computer, and unfortunately I don't have a disc to do
this. I am going to make one last effort to use Citrix again, and I really hope
that works, otherwise I won't be able get my iLab done. Also, I did try and
access the iLab early in the week, it is not that I just waited until hours before
my assignment was due... there were login issues that DeVry had to resolve
and I wasn't able to login until today.
Sorry just frustrated, been at this since 3 pm and it's now almost 11
RE:
Question 2 Jb Avery
7/14/2012 11:25:58 PM
Access allows you to use have an application that requires multiple user to connect to
one data at one time or need to group, sort, and total data based on various parameters.
Also having a large amount of data. Access can provide many tools that you can use
to identify and extract only the data needed at the moment.
Yes I believe that there are truly differences implemented in different ways.
RE:
Question Kenneth Joa
2
7/15/2012 5:45:13 PM
I agree completely, that the application is limited only by the amount of data
it can manage, not by its lack of utility or other functionality.
RE:Question 3 Jb Avery
7/15/2012 2:23:34 PM
I think that ccess can serve as a corporate database solution.The difference between a
personal naad corporate soluton is less data.
RE:Question
Adam Rogers
3
7/15/2012 10:28:33 PM
Access can absolutely serve as a corporate database solution. Provided it is a
small database for that corporation. Access is designed with small businesses
in mind as well as individuals. However it isn't the size of the corporation that
is the deciding factor, it is their database needs. It is possible for a small
business to have need of a very large database, if this is the case, Access
wouldn't serve for them. But it is also possible for a larger corporation to only
need a relatively small database.