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SB: OK then you do the walnut. OK attention everyone we have something new. OK, this is the black walnut. Narration: Even though it was fall, the sun was shining so much that I just needed a light jacket. I was getting hungry- it was almost lunchtime and I’d been walking around for a few hours. I was part of a group of other curious foragers. We were looking for food in New York City, but we weren’t going to the corner store or a hot dog stand. We were looking for food that’s apparently everywhere in Central Park. I tagged along with Wildman Steve Brill – yes, that’s his name – who led our foraging expedition. SB: The first time I answered the phone “Wildman Steve Brill, good morning” and no one had heard of the name and no one knew about me it felt very weird but it worked. But at that point I didn’t have the pith helmet and I didn’t have the beard and people kept saying “You know Brill you don’t look like a wild man” so I went to the army/navy store, I bought the explorer’s hat I grew a beard and now people say “You know wild man you look just like I thought you were gonna look.” [ambient laughter] Narration: The Wildman doesn’t lead the tours by himself. His ten year old daughter Violet is a foraging genius. Here she is describing the black walnut. VB: They come from that tree as you see there’s a lot up there and the black walnut the green layer’s the husk and you can use your foot to stomp on it or a rock to smush it off [ambient walnut smashing sounds] then there’s a nut and you can use a rock to crack it open and there’s this white nut meat that you can eat [ambient walnut smashing continues] Narration: I walked with Steve, Violet, and about twenty other people on the tour all over the north of Central Park. Steve and Violet were constantly on the lookout for plants to show us. They were really busy. The only interview I could catch with them was when we were walking through the park. In a four-hour tour, we tried over 15 different edible plants. Here’s a forager tasting the meat of a black walnut after working hard to get it open. Guest: Ah here we go, got it. Mmm, there we go, nice. Narration: We walked through the park quickly but stopped often. After Wildman Steve showed us a plant, he would also share some recipes that he had invented. There were big coffee beans that could make chocolate mole, gingko seeds that could make a nice stir fry, and epazote that could be used to season guacamole. The calm day was in sharp contrast to another foraging trip almost three decades ago in the same place we were at now. In 1986 while Brill was foraging in Central Park with a group much like this one, he was arrested. He was interviewed on WNYC just a few days after he was charged with criminal mischief. [begin archive tape] SB: The park commissioner had two undercover agents come on my walk they called me up asked where I was meeting and they came they gave me a donation and then when the walk was over they apparently radioed their friends and they came with one of the ranger vans and hauled me off to the police station [end archive tape] Narration: Wildman Steve Brill was handcuffed and fingerprinted. He was scared that he would get a criminal record. And he was just starting his new business. But he got lucky. They dropped the charges. The City Park service hired him as a Parks Naturalist and he lead foraging trips on their dime from 1986 to 1990. SB: You have to harm something to do criminal mischief and I haven’t harmed a thing. The weeds that we picked are things that are cut down by the millions by the mowers. Narration: Steve is good at arguing his case. He doesn’t forage any plant that won’t grow back easily. He does way less harm to the plants than the Parks Department does with their bulldozers and lawnmowers. But the law hasn’t changed. It’s still illegal to pick and remove plants from the parks. In a city of 8 million Steve Brill is the only person who has official permission to forage. But the whole point of his expeditions is to pass his knowledge on. His daughter wants to continue his legacy. VB: I’m Violet Brill and I love to teach people about plants and nature. I’ve been on the tour since I was two months old but I’ve been foraging since I was 5 or 4. SB: Violet when you were three I lifted you up and put you in front of wine berries and you were eating them when you were three. When you could stand I put you in front of berries and showed you to eat them. Narration: Violet’s knowledge of plants is, well, more than impressive. Maybe encyclopedic’s the better word. Steve and Violet tried to switch off on introducing plants. But usually Steve gave in to Violet’s enthusiasm. VB: Common spice bush has oval shaped leaves and these little buds. You can make tea with the twigs, leaves, and buds, and if you crush the leaves it smells really yummy. And now for the contest! For the contest, who can spot what this branch collectively altogether has that no other branch on any other tree that isn’t spice bush has? [In response to various answers from the crowd] No...no...nope, nope…. [fade under] Narration: Violet’s only ten years old but she’s been foraging longer than all the adults on the tour. VB: You can’t spot it by looking at one part here or one leaf here or even this leaf right here. You have to look at them all together. [fade under] Narration: While Violet is young and with her dad, she’ll probably also be protected from the law. But when she grows up, we’ll see what happens. Guest: Size variety? SB, VB: Yes! The different sizes, there’s some very small ones and there are large ones, everything else you look at the leaves are pretty much uniform size. Narration: What will happen to Violet when she grows up? Is the knowledge gained worth the plants that are lost? There are so many kids like Violet growing up in cities. And pretty much the only time they’re around nature is in parks. What kind of regulations should we be putting on that time? For Heritage Radio Network dot org, I’m Caitlin Pierce.