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Teenage Disc
DISC DEGENERATION
FRANCIS P. LAGATTUTA M.D.
FELLOWSHIP DIRECTOR
LAGS SPINE AND SPORTSCARE
Blood Supply to Disc
End Plates
Dorsal Roots
Facet Joints
Muscles and Fascia
Disc Degeneration Evidence Based
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Back pain is complicated and does not fit into
disease model.
Only fractures and acute disc herniations fit the
category
Active disc disease only lasts 6 weeks, afterwards
falls into subacute pain and then chronic pain
Disc Degeneration
Degenerative Disc Disease
Disc Protrusion
Degenerative Disc Disease
Degenerative Disc Disease
Degenerative Disc Disease
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Treatments will not fall under evidence based
because there are too many factors in play with
chronic pain
Pain is 50% psychological, 30% pathology
10% insomnia, 10% myofacial
History of Back Pain
Physical Exam
Depends on what structures are irritated
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Nerves - leg pain
† Facets - back pain more with rotation
† Myofascial - back pain non radicular leg pain
† Disc pain - sitting intolerance
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ROM
Neuro exam
Orthopedic signs
Palpation
Imaging
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Flexion extension radiographs
MRI with or without gadolinium
Discogram
Post CT discogram
Diagnostic Injections
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Medial branch blocks
Transforaminal epidurals
Trigger point injections
Electrodiagnosis
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EMG
NCV
Medial Branch Block
Transforaminal Epidurals
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Diagnostic
Therapeutic
Myofascial Pain
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Case Study
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47 year old civilian male injured in Operation Iraqi
Freedom war while acting as a “Contractor in the
Battlefield” in 2003
Prolotherapy
Ultrasound guided
PRP
2003
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Lower Back and Leg pain
September 2nd : MRI showed L4-5, L5-S1 degenerative disc
disease with a central possibly left-sided herniated nucleus
pulposus at L5-S1.
September: Physical Therapy x 6 weeks
† Regressed
December – Three epidural injections performed by an
Anesthesiologist
Caudal Epidurals completed every other day (Wed-Fri-Mon)
† Reported Minimal help
December: CT and Myelogram- showed spinal stenosis at L4S1
2004
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2005
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February: L4, L5, S1 Bilateral decompressive
laminectomy, bilateral foraminotomy/facetectomy
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Feb-March: Physical therapy x 4 weeks
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July: Caudal Epidural
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Did not help
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Worse
short term relief
April: MRI Lumbar Spine showed disc desiccation
and disc bulges at L4-5 and L5-S1
November: Water Therapy x 4 weeks
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Pain medications
No relief
Initial relief for 2 weeks
2006
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August: visit with primary care doctor
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January: Physical therapy x 4 weeks
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January: Bilateral Lumbar 345 Medial Branch Blocks #2
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February 2nd: Bilateral Lumbar 345 Neurolysis
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February 22nd : Lumbar Sympathetic block and Caudal
Epidural
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March: Physical Therapy x 6 weeks
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Did not help.
December: Bilateral Lumbar 345 Medial Branch
Blocks
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2007
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Temporary relief
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Temporary relief for a short period of time
Helped with rotation – 50%
Temporary relief
Did not help
2007
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July: MRI Lumbar Spine
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February: Physical Therapy x 4 weeks
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April – June: Lumbar Prolotherapy Trigger Point
Injections
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showed mild central spinal stenosis at L5-S1
September 7th : Left Lumbar 4 and 5 TFE
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2008
Temporary relief
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September 21st: Left Lumbar 4 and Sacral 1 TFE
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Temporary relief
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Good relief for myofascial pain
December: Right Lumbar 4 and 5 TFE
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January 2009
Worse
Better
Current Story
January: Left Lumbar 5 and Sacral 1 TFE
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Better
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Built fountain in house and increase pain putting
wet clothes into dryer
Pain with extension and rotation
“spasms” primary care doc- cyclobenzaprine
Possible mbbs or trigger point injections
Disc Degeneration Symptomatic Treatme
Costs
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Medications: Cost of Opioids
Medications
Physical therapy
Injections
Spinal surgery
Alternative treatments
Medications: Cost of Opioids
Medications
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Analgesics
Opioids
Thank God judicious use of them again
Look out for previous drug abuse-no ceiling
If on long acting and needs breakthrough then not
working as long acting
Morphine causes hypersensitivity after time
Do not use more than 160 mgs of anything
Tramadol
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Costs vs. efficacy
Safety with antidepressants
Best starter drug
NSAIDs
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Compliance better once a day
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Celecoxib over 65, warfarin, aspirin,
Meloxicam
Piroxicam
Others
NSAIDs
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Cardio risk factors
Muscle Relaxants
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Only for 2 weeks!!!!!!!
We need to stop using them
Soma never
True ones:
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Benzodiazapines
Lioresel
Calcium Channel Blockers
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Gapapentin seems to be miracle drug of this decade
Pre-gabapentin better absorbed than gabapentin
Cheaper after 600mgs of gapapentin
My experience significant weight gain over 150
mgs bid on pre-gabapentin
Psych Drugs
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Always see what psych drugs they are taking
The chronic painers always are on something
Descending Tract Modulaters
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Duloxetine
Milnacipran HCl
Tricyclics
All of these helpful but not home runs
Medical Marijuana
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Almost legal in California
Santa Cruz balm for $15 for a month
Only patients over 50 or really screwed up
You know what I mean
It helps if they are not selling it!
Physical Therapy
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Physical Therapy
Whats new?
Functional 3D rehab Gary Grey
Taping for myofacial pain
McKenzie exercises
Spinal stabilazation
Manual therapy
Physical Therapy
Physical Therapy
Physical Therapy
Physical Therapy
Cognitive Behavioral Programs
Life with Purpose
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Find out if underlying psych and treat it
Program teaches patients to live with the pain
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Wk 1 WHAT IS PAIN?
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Wk 2 OWNING YOUR PAIN
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Creating a personal diary to reflect on physical and emotional responses
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Exploring your pain and its effect on daily activities
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Wk 3 DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAIN
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Wk 4 SELF IMAGE
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Wk 5 UNHEALTHY APPROACHES
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Wk 6 HEALTHY APPROACHES
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Learning about pain and emotions associated to situations
Negative and Positive Self-Talk
Different Coping Styles: Hopeless, Denial, Avoidance and Wishful Thinking
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Changing your mood by facial expressions
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Distinguish between positive and negative expressions
Life with Purpose
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Wk 7 COMMUNICATION
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Steps of Conflict Resolution
Effective Problem Solving
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Wk 8 GOALS
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Wk 9 BOUNDARIES
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Physical, Emotional and Problem-Focused Coping Skills
Distinguish the different types of boundaries: physical, emotional/verbal, time and
sexual.
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Wk 10 WELLNESS
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Wk 11 WELLNESS TOOLS
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Wk 12 STRESS REDUCERS
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Time Management
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Spinal cord stimulation
Analgesic cream
Acupuncture/pressure
Massage
Leeches
Nutrition
Sleep, creativity, friendship, pet therapy, pleasurable activities, humor and laughter
Breathing techniques, stretching, music therapy, visualization, relaxation,
aromatherapy
Spinal Cord Stimulation
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Alternative Health Care
$6000 for a trial------abusive
Not for axial back pain
Peripheral stimulation
For myofascial pain $30k to $50k too much
Surgery
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Trauma
Spondylolisthesis
Instability
Pure Disc Pain
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MRI
Sitting sign
MRI end plates lit up
Discography
Discogram
Disc Procedures
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Idet
Successful in correct
patient population
Pauza study showed
less than 10 % needed a
fusion in the next 5
years
Evidence Based Results for
Surgery
Plasma Enriched Protein
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26; Delgado-Lopez PD, Rodriguez-Salazar A,
Castilla-Di Ez JM, Marti N-Velasco V, FernandezArconada O. Role of Surgery in spinal degenerative
disease. Analysis of systematic reviews on surgical
conservative treatments from an evidence-based
approach. Neurocirugia (Astur), 2005 Apr; 16 (2):
142-57
Pauza FDA approved injecting discs
Fibrin grows and enlarges disc
Evidence Based Results for
Surgery
27; F.J. Robaina-Padron, Controversies of
instrumented surgery and pain relief in
degenerative lumbar spine. Results of scientific
evidence Neurocirugia 2007; 18: 406-413.
28; F.J. Robaina-Padron, Controversies of
instrumented surgery and pain relief in
degenerative lumbar spine. Results of scientific
evidence Neurocirugia 2007; 18: 468-477.
Evidence Based Results for
Surgery
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SPORT research papers from Weinstein in Iowa compared a specific surgical
procures for a specific diagnosis compared to a nonspecific nonoperative treatment
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Like doing nonspecific surgery for any diagnosis
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Weinstein J.N., Lurie .JD., Tosteson T.D., Zhao W, Blood E.A., Tosteson A.N.,
Birkmeyer N., Herkowitz H., Longley M., Lenke L., Emery S., Hu S.S. “Surgical
compared with nonoperative treatment for lumbar degenerative spondylolisthese,
four year results in the Spine Patient Outcomes Research Trial (SPORT)
randomized and observational cohorts.” J Bone Joint Surg Am. 2009 Jun;
91(6):1295-304.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
Surgical Rate when Physiatrist is Gatekee
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My practice: back pain greater than 6 months
2000 patients/year 6 fusions/year
5 of my fellows trained in last 15 years
Less than 10% of the patients need surgery
Most surgeries are Spinal Stenosis
Occasional – Herniated Nucleus Pulposus
Rarely – Degenerative Disc Disease
Costs
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This model has been done by insurance companies
in the midwest
No matter how many blocks by avoiding surgeries
cost savings in the millions
Patient satisfaction the same
Evidence Based
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Disc disease is a fluid diagnosis
Pain is generated from muscles, nerves, facet joints,
and finally the disc itself
Treat the current symptoms
Avoid opioids
Avoid surgery
Conclusion
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Treat symptomatically
Identify the psyche issues
Treat myofacial pain
Treat nerve pain
Treat posterior element pain
Treat disc pain?