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IBL kick off meeting
summary and issues
ATLAS Upgrade Project Office
CERN, July 21th 2009
G. Darbo - INFN / Genova
Indico AGENDA page:
•http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=64379
G. Darbo – INFN / Genova
IBL Kick-off Meeting – Summary & Issues
UPO, 21 July 2009
IBL kick-off – July 8th
IBL kick-off meeting
• Venue: July 8th, at Holliday Inn (Thoiry).
• 55 Registrants, 31 Institutes represented, 35÷40 Institutes shown interest
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IBL kick-off Agenda
http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceOtherViews.py?view=standard&confId=56905
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Cost
What in prototype costs:
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Sensors: Planar, 3D, Diamond (1)
Electronics: FE-I4
Hybridisation: bump-bonding
Local supports: stave
Beam-pipe: mock-up
External cooling: Thermal management
What not:
• All other electronics / mechanical prototypes
• Irradiation and test beam
(1) Diamond prototype added to cost - if diamond are
the IBL sensors, the IBL cost will increase by >
1MCH.
G. Darbo – INFN / Genova
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UPO, 21 July 2009
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Some Comments on Cost
The IBL project is not uniformly developed on all its part
• Revisit cost when TDR will be mature
• Contingency not included – how to deal extra cost?
• Include contingency?
• Extra cost of deliverable has to be covered by the share assigned to the
Institute?
Funding scenario: 4.0 MCHF (M&O-A) + {4.4 MCHF (M&O-B) + 1.2
MCHF (fresh project money from new institutes)} – What next:
1.within this funding model, "old" M&O-B FA’s need to confirm their share of
4.4M (anything removed goes into +1.2M for general "bidding”);
2.establish the "money matrix” – tentative ;
3.collect firm pledges;
4.draft (i)MoU – it appears clear that we need to match financial with “visibility”
of the contribution.
G. Darbo – INFN / Genova
IBL Kick-off Meeting – Summary & Issues
UPO, 21 July 2009
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Interest in the Project
35÷40 Institutes (some present themselves in partnership with two or
more Institutes).
• They are represented by a total of 16 Funding Agencies
• Strong interest in sensors across the 3 technology options
(planar/3D/diamond) – 22 institutes interested in a sensor technology – for
some of them the contribution to the project is conditional to the sensor
option.
First round of “serious” expression of interest:
• 120 ÷ 150 FTE (Engineers, Physicist, PhD)
• 8÷9 MCHF could be available to cover the 6.6 MCHF – some dependency of
funding on chosen technology options (sensor/cooling/stave) and on
distribution of deliverables amongst Institutes (Institutes will contribute to the
project with money if their role/visibility is corresponding).
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What (over)-Subscribed & What not
WBS 1 - Sensors:
• 3 sensor technologies in the prototype phase: many groups (22) interested in sensors.
• Sensor production/test sites: we need two or max three sites for testing sensors after
production – no more than one per Country. The past Pixel sensor tests were made in
Germany/Italy/US for a much larger number of sensors.
• Sensor production cost divided amongst many FA’s – no “majority share”
• If diamond will be the chosen sensor technology – revisit project cost.
WBS 2 – Electronics:
• The package is quite well covered
• Over subscription on ROD – need coordinated discussion between optoboard/BOC/ROD
WBS 3 – Hybridisation
• Bump-bonding prototype is oversubscribed – we need more than one bump technology
for prototyping and only one for production (cost and quantity are not an issue)
• Over subscription (not strong) on flex hybrid technology interconnect technology.
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WBS 4 – Local Supports
• Bare stave is well covered – groups quite active
• Module loading on stave looks over-subscribed – need more discussions and better
understanding.
• Cooling pipe fittings could have impact on the overall module loading plans
WBS 5 – Internal Services
• Covered – no special issues
WBS 6 – Beam-pipe & interfaces (global supports)
• This is centrally designed by PO – there are Institutes with mechanical engineering
manpower that could take sub part as deliverables – not commitments taken (too early
in the definition).
WBS 7 – Surface Integration
• Little covered at moment – expression of interest available – need coordination
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WBS 8 – External services
• Part of WBS on M&O-A not covered: Type 2, 3 and 4 cables and pipes
WBS 9 – External Cooling & Gas
• In discussion the new organization of the cooling
• CO2 or C3F8 (mixture of C2F6 + C3F8) to be selected
WBS 10 – Installation in the Pit
• Completely on M&O-A
WBS 11 – DAQ, DCS & Interlock integration
• DCS hardware – Mainly Wuppertal
• HV/LV PS (M&O-A) – interested groups
WBS 12 - Irradiation and Test Beam
• Many group interested.
• An upgrade/refurbishment of the strip telescope would be welcome – who interested?
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Schedule – Fixed Date or sLHC I?
Need to know:
• Design for sLHC phase I no matter what (follow machine schedule)?
• Design for a fixed installation date – install when ready (before Phase I)
When to make it ready?
• The Upgrade Project Office (May 12th) suggests to use 2014/2015 as a
guideline for the IBL installation date.
• We are now working with a schedule that foresees an installation date in
2014/2015
• The FE-I4 and Sensor/Module are on the critical path, and installing earlier
than 2014/2015 would require some compromises in the performance.
G. Darbo – INFN / Genova
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UPO, 21 July 2009
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FE-I4 Review
FE-I4 has gone through a “system & design issue” review on March, 2nd
2009:
• http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=52403
A readiness review before chip closure is foreseen for late
September/October:
• Kevin will chair the review committee
• Review organised by Philippe and Maurice
Engineering run will be done in the IBM/CERN frame contract
• Cost will be in the IBL project - ~ 500kCH
• Do we need MoU for such a large commitment?
• It seems that money could be available by Institutes involved in the project,
but will then need to be recognised as IBL contribution!
• Need to balance between risk of 2009 submission and that of adding a delay
that will propagate to the whole IBL project…
G. Darbo – INFN / Genova
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UPO, 21 July 2009
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TDR
Kevin and Mar together with
PL and TC proposed
chapter editors:
• Waiting for response…
• Editors kick-off meeting July
22nd
• Tight schedule if we want to
have TDR published 1/4/2009
• TDR as important document
to FA’s release of money
G. Darbo – INFN / Genova
IBL Kick-off Meeting – Summary & Issues
TDR Chapter Structure
1. Introduction
2. Overview
3. Modules
4. Staves
5. Integration
6. Installation
7. Off-detector
8. Prototyping, Testin
g
9. Critical Integration
10. Commissioning
11. Management
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TDR - Schedule
Deadline
# Weeks
from
previous
Printout, submission to LHCC
April 1st 2010
2
Deadline for comments
March 15th 2010
2
Sent to Collaboration for Approval
March 1st 2010
2
Deadline for comments
Feb 15th 2010
3
Sent to Collaboration
Jan 25th 2010
2
Deadline for comments
Jan 11th 2010
4
Sent to Collaboration
Dec 15th 2009
2
Approval by TDR Editors and PO/USG
Dec 1st 2009
2
TDR Integration
Nov 16th 2009
3
Editors meeting 4 - final internal draft
October 19th 2009
3
Editors meeting 3
September 28th 2009
3
Editors meeting 2
September 7th 2009
3
Editors meeting - final chapter’s structure
August 19th 2009
3
Editors Kick off meeting
July 22nd 2009
Action
TDR
Final Draft
Draft 2
Draft 1
Preparation
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Conclusion
IBL kick-off meeting was quite successful
• Large interest in the project – many Institutes, many FTE’s
• Enough money looks available for the project
• Some over subscription and some little covered
Financial side
• Funding model proposed
• Money matrix in development
• iMoU and firm pledges on the way
TDR
• Proposed chapter editor names, waiting for some replies
• TDR editors kick-off meeting tomorrow
FE-I4
• Readiness review – funding - submission
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UPO, 21 July 2009
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