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Analog Electronics Workshop Input/Output Limitations Rev 0.2 March 13, 2013 What’s Wrong? Common Mode Voltage Definition Vcm Vp Vn 2 + + Vo + – Vn Differential Gain A dm GND + + Vid - GND Differential Amplifier GND Vid 2 + – Vp + – + – Vcm + – GND Vid 2 + Vo Vid Adm GND Input and Output Swing Vcm Range Vcm 10V - Output Swing V+ Vout + V- Vcm – Two Examples Vcm = 0V Vcm = 5V R1 2k RF 10k R1 2k RF 10k V3 5 VEE 18 VEE 18 + Vout + + VCC 18 Vout + V3 5 VCC 18 Input Stage Output Stage +Vsupply Vgs=0.9V IS1 VIN- Q2 VSAT Vgs=0.9V Q1 VIN+ Q3 Vsat=0.1V Q4 Q2 to second stage VCE =0.6V Q1 -Vsupply VBE VOUT Translating the Data Sheet Parameter Conditions Min Typ Max Unit (V+)-1.5 V Input Voltage Range (V-) – 0.1V Common-Mode Voltage Range VCM Output Voltage Output Vout RL = 10kΩ 20 50 -2.6V< Vcm < 1.0V -2.95< Vout < 2.95V -2.6V< Vcm < 1.0V mV Vcm or Output Swing Problem? 2.00 T V+ V1 2.5 Vin V- V2 2.5 - V- + + Vin Vout -2.00 999.94m + U1 OPA735 V+ Vcm=Vin! Vout -1.99 0.00 500.00u • Remember • -2.95V<Vout<2.95V • -2.6V<Vcm<1.0V • What is the common-mode voltage? • This is a Vcm violation! 1.00m Time (s) 1.50m 2.00m •Measurement 9 NI myDAQ Exercise-Vcm • Populate U1 with OPA735 • Set J2 to 1-2 position R6 DNP R5 0 V- ++ + 7 3 AO(1) J2 4 2 V+ 6 U1-OPA735 U1Out AO(0) 1 3 2 AI(0+) NI myDAQ Exercise-Vcm • Launch Scope • Scope Settings – Scale V/Div = 500mV – Time/Div = 200us – Trigger Type = Edge • Run NI myDAQ Exercise-Vcm • Launch FGEN • FGEN Settings – – – – Triangle Wave Frequency=1kHz Amplitude=4Vpp Signal Route=AO(1) • Run Further Reading a1 Understanding Operational Amplifier Limitations and Long-Term Stability By Marek Lis Sr Application Engineer Texas Instruments -Tucson 1 NI myDAQ Exercise-Vcm TINA Results Lab Results 1.50 T Vin -1.50 999.90m Vout -1.50 0.00 500.00u 1.00m Time (s) 1.50m 2.00m • Simulation • Measurement 15 TINA Exercise V+ R2 1k R1 34.8k + V1 2.5 Vin V2 2.5 V- V- + Vout + U1 OPA277_TG V+ TINA Exercise • Vin Settings • Triangular Wave Settings TINA Exercise • Analysis->Transient T • View->Separate Curves 80.00m Vin -80.00m 1.53 Vout -2.32 0.00 500.00u 1.00m Time (s) 1.50m 2.00m Vcm or Output Swing Problem? R1 34.8k + R2 1k Vin 3 Vcm=0V! ++ 7 2 4 V6 Vout U2 OPA277 V+ Output Swing Violation! • For OPA277 • -2.0V<Vout<1.3V (RL=10k) • -0.5V<Vcm<0.5V • What is the common-mode voltage? • We can’t violate Vcm in this configuration! NI myDAQ Exercise-Output Swing • Populate U2 with OPA277 • Inverting Configuration R7 34.8k + 2 3 4 V- AO(0) - ++ 7 R8 1k V+ AI(1+) 6 U2-OPA277 NI myDAQ Exercises Output Swing • Stop Scope • Settings – – – – Source=AI(1) Scale V/Div = 500mV Time/Div = 200us Trigger Type = Edge • Run NI myDAQ Exercise Output Swing • Stop FGEN • Settings – Triangle Wave – Frequency=1kHz – Amplitude=160mVpp • Signal Route=AO(0) • Run NI myDAQ Exercise Output Swing TINA Results T Lab Results 80.00m Vin -80.00m 1.53 Vout -2.32 0.00 500.00u 1.00m Time (s) 1.50m 2.00m 24 1. For the circuit below: The output reads -260mV. The offset is 30uV typical. Why is the output so large? V1 2.5 + VF1 -260.570012mV + U1 OPA140 V2 2.5 What causes the problem here? 1. For the circuit below: The output reads 171mV. The offset is 30uV typical. Why is the output so large? - Vout2 171.4mV VF2 171.4mV + + U2 OPA140 V3 5 An Invalid Op Amp Configuration (Output outside of the linear range) Revisions • 0.2 – Added homework – Added Lis / Kay presentation on limits.